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Le Tour Mediterranéen - Stages 3 & 4
Two stages today with a transfer window in between. We start with a short rolling stage this morning that should follow a similar pattern to the first couple of days (although who can predict what will happen over just 62km) followed by an 18.2 km technical and hilly time trial this afternoon.
No changes for me going into the morning stage but I've already got three of my four changes planned out for this afternoon. My only remaining decision will be whether I drop Degenkolb for the time trial in favour of a proper time trial rider or risk leaving him in and hoping for the best. Got my eye on Phinney but I'm not sure if the TT suits him or not.
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Right, scores are updating as I type, should be in order but I tried to get them out as quickly as possible this morning before going out so that they'd be up before this afternoon's stage.
Anyway, apologies for the mix up.
Yeah, sorry, gave the stage win to Degand by accident, scores will be updated in a mo.
And there was me thinking I was the only one with Degenkolb in the team
Degenkolb...points!!
Points are wrong for Degenkolb!
Look like only been given points for CG and Points jersey and none for stage win. Would also explain why I've not picked up a podium badge
Having done my transfers and left Phinney in realising he's over 8mins down on the GC i'm thinking he may now not be bothered with the ITT
Which means not having Chavanel is gonna hurt me 
He might have been saving himself for it too....but I do think no Chava is a mistake
Miracle of miracles, scores are going up now.
DNF ZORDAN Andrea Androni Giocattoli -
DNF PERRETT Joseph Team Raleigh -
DNF BELLETTI Manuel Androni Giocattoli -
DNF SELLA Emanuele Androni Giocattoli
I think you'd probably have to list the whole lot to confirm the fact you had four to begin with
St Date Rider in Rider out
4 Feb 15, 10:18 Sonny Colbrelli Tobias Ludvigsson
4 Feb 15, 10:18 Pavel Brutt Bob Jungels
4 Feb 15, 10:18 Matthew Busche Taylor Phinney
4 Feb 15, 10:11 Lawrence Warbasse Remy Di Gregorio
4 Feb 15, 10:11 Bob Jungels John Degenkolb
2 Feb 13, 19:39 Tobias Ludvigsson Manuel Belletti
2 Feb 13, 19:39 Jean-Christophe Peraud Yauheni Hutarovich
1 Feb 12, 16:50 Kevin Van Melsen Yanto Barker
1 Feb 12, 16:50 Rodolfo Andres Torres Riccardo Zoidl
1 Feb 12, 16:50 Luis Leon Sanchez Danilo Napolitano
There ya go I can't show the non penalty bit as I'm on mobile and can't screenshot but clearly it shows 5 transfers with jungels in and out within 7 mins and I've been around long enough not to make a mistake like that and I wouldn't be taking out phinney or ludvig prior to an ITT
So you went Peraud in for Hutarovich between stage 1 and 2 banking one transfer....no transfers between stage 2 and the short rolling stage 3 THIS MORNING banking another 2 for a total of three banked transfers and then 5 transfers between stage 3 and the ITT stage 4 this afternoon which is your prescribed 2 + 3 banked transfers.
Perhaps you pressed confirm when pre-planning your summit finish team.....although I do think you're a bit too long in the tooth for a mistake like that?
Ray you missed ludvig for Belletti as well as peraud for hunt between 1 and 2 leaving me no banked transfers and therefor had 4 for stage 4 as ur other calculations are correct , I also appreciate the fact you recognise Ive been here long enough not to make a neo pro error with the confirm button , only thing I can think of is it glitches as I was jumping between listing by ITT and the Medium Mountains a lot whilst looking at what I could get in with 4 changes for stage 5 , I've emailed Dr and Dave so hopefully they can let me know exactly what's happened and sort it out , if not my tdm is a bust and any hope I had of climbing the fs overall has taken a bit of a hit
One concern .....been messing with the team and had 4 transfers made two for the TT then confirmed leaving me with 2 , then I started to play about with the team looking at what I could do with 4 for the SF , I'm pretty sure I didn't confirm anything and now I have no transfers but my SF team is there ( 3 changes) and no penalty points ...so effectively the game has taken 5 changes after confirming 2 out of 4 and no penalty for the 5 it's actually taken , I've tried to revert the team to the TT selection and it's registering penalties
St Date Rider in Rider out
4 Feb 15, 10:18 Sonny Colbrelli Tobias Ludvigsson
4 Feb 15, 10:18 Pavel Brutt Bob Jungels
4 Feb 15, 10:18 Matthew Busche Taylor Phinney
4 Feb 15, 10:11 Lawrence Warbasse Remy Di Gregorio
4 Feb 15, 10:11 Bob Jungels John Degenkolb
Someone help me please
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Given the deadline for transfers in a couple of hours and there's only the top 13 available right now I doubt I'll be able to get scores done before the next stage starts.
I need full finish line plus KoM and sprint points and it usually takes 3-4 hours for those to be confirmed so if you were planning on waiting for scores before making your changes I'd advise against it.
Top 20
1 - Degenkolb (Giant)
2 - Hushovd (BMC)
3 - Colbrelli (Bardiani)
4 - Pineau (IAM)
5 - Felline (Trek)
6 - Fonseca (Bretagne)
7 - Giraud (La Pomme Marseille -)
8 - Planckaert (Roubaix - Lille Metropole)
9 - Martinez (Europcar)
10 - Porsev (Katusha)
11 - Duque (Colombia)
12 - Laporte (Cofidis)
13 - Matisiak (CCC)
14 GAUTIER Cyril (Team Europcar)
15 ROUX Anthony FDJ.fr
16 WILKINSON Ian Team Raleigh
17 DERNIES Tom Wallonie - Bruxelles
18 JAKIN Alo BigMat - Auber 93
19 BRANDLE Matthias IAM Cycling
20 VAN MELSEN Kevin Wanty - Groupe Gobert
1,5,10 so far for stage 3, nearly took out Porsev for Martinez so glad I decided against it.
Made 6 transfers for stage 4 (no pens) including a couple of 3.0 youngsters that I think are good TTers but could easily do nothing - its more fun to try those guys tho' I think.
Feel like I have a really good TT team with several guys who could also score tomorrow - but as we all know the TTs can be unpredictable, and there are a few potentially top guys (Phinney, Cummings, Roy, Gusev etc) that I don't have. I'm hoping its a bit hilly - difficult to tell from the profile I saw.
For TT...
Chavanel
Peraud
Busche
Larsson
Ludvigsson
Roux
Lulu Sanchez
Mystery 3.0 rider #1
Mystery 3.0 rider #2!!
Podium and nothing else from the top 13 from stage 3. I've dropped Thor and Degenkolb for this pm but I'm not sure I've made good choices for the TT. Might have to pin my hopes to Mount Faron.
Transfers made, no Phinney for me but I have dropped Degenkolb. His 6th place in the ITT at the Etoile de Besseges nearly swayed me into keeping him but I'd rather have another proper TTer in my team I think.
Aaargh....Thor out a stage too early
What a victory for John Degenkolb right thing at the end of a short step 63 km, he beats Thor Hushovd (BMC) and Colbrelli (Bardiani)!
intermediate sprint:
1-Ferrarri (Caja-Rural)
2-Fraile (Caja-Rural)
3-Ludvigsson (Giant)
second KOM:
Cyril Gautier (Team Europcar)
Ben Hermans (BMC Racing Team)
Dries Devenyns (Giant-Shimano)
Apparently it was Premont and not Dufrasne in lead group which has been caught.
The int sprint
1 Ferrarri
2 Fraille
3 Ludvigsson
Betancur has attacked at the foot of the mountain.
1 change for the short undulating satge 3...Chava in,Thor out....figuring Chava will want to be near last off in the ITT later today so will plump for a good finishing position here.
Chavanel
Degenkolb
LuLuSanchez
Hutarovich
Phinney
Sicard
Fedroigo
Zoidl
Laengen
I may be in theatre this afternoon so don't want to miss the transfer deadline before the ITT so made my transfers already for that
Larsson,Jungels,Roy and Peraud in for Zoidl,John D,Hutarovich and Sicard....leaving a strong looking team for the stage
Chava
Phinney
Larsson
Roy
Peraud
Jungels
LuLu
Fedrigo
Laengen
For anyone worried about not being able to make changes later on you can put your transfers in for the ITT this afternoon now.
The window closes at about 1pm GMT.
First climb
1 Pantano
2 Dufrasne
3 Le Boulch
lead of 50secs
Strong winds caused the peloton to split in two
As if by magic - all sorted (thanks if thanks relevant!). Right - time to bring in those TTers...
Early break
Courteille (FDJ)
Pantano (COL)
Le Boulch (Big Mat0
Dufrasne (Wall)
Cherel (AG2R)
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