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New bike for Prudential Ride 100

Hi,

I've signed up for the Prudential ride 100. Currently ride a Btwin Triban 3 but am looking to upgrade with a budget of £1000 and the ability to buy now pay later when the Mrs is off maternity leave. Have narrowed it down to 2 -

Giant Defy 0 - http://www.pedalon.co.uk/acatalog/giant-defy-0-2015.html
Pros: Well reviewed, Ultegra gearing, a bunch of free accessory points. Cons Alu frame (is that a con?)

or

Planet X Pro Carbon Apex - http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXSLPAPEX/planet-x-pro-carbon-sram-apex-r...
Pros: Carbon Frame, Campagnolo Khamsin wheels, under budget. Cons Apex gearing not as good as Ultegra

Or should I man up and plough through on the Triban.

Thoughts anyone?

Thanks

Gary

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Gary81 | 9 years ago
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Thanks for all the advice on this one. I ended up treating the Triban to a service and doing the ride on that and was fine.

Will be looking for a new bike next year though, the soreness of my lower back after and the official photos have pretty much confirmed the Triban is a bit too small for me. The perils of buying bikes over the internet!

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CXR94Di2 | 9 years ago
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@ judge

The London Prudential will be a walk in the park for you  1

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Judge dreadful | 9 years ago
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I'm doing the 100 on my triggers broom, tired looking old BTWIN Riverside 300. I certainly wouldn't risk a nice (new) bike, in any Sportive.

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fenix replied to Judge dreadful | 9 years ago
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Are the sportifs you ride full of crashes ? If you were crit racing I can see your logic - but a sportif ??

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Daveyraveygravey replied to Judge dreadful | 9 years ago
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Judge dreadful wrote:

I'm doing the 100 on my triggers broom, tired looking old BTWIN Riverside 300. I certainly wouldn't risk a nice (new) bike, in any Sportive.

What a strange way to think about it! RL is a fantastic event; the number of participants, the closed roads, and starting and finishing in London are really stand out features. You'd probably enjoy it on a 70's Raleigh Shopper, but if you have the cash, why not make it even more enjoyable on a new bike? Don't leave it too long though, you need to get a few rides in before the big day to make sure it's been screwed together right and to make sure it suits you and doing 100 miles.

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Judge dreadful replied to Daveyraveygravey | 9 years ago
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I've been testing my bikes for suitability for the P100 over the last weeks.

This one was on the good old Boardman MX Comp Hybrid.

https://www.strava.com/activities/312339185

This one was on the good old Pro Carbon Roady.

https://www.strava.com/activities/310178948.

This is the one I'm probably going to use. Old faithful (Btwin Riverside 300 with a few new bits fitted over the years as stuff wore out), a bit rubbish really, but somehow the most enjoyable one.

https://www.strava.com/activities/305612565

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ianrobo replied to Judge dreadful | 9 years ago
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Judge dreadful wrote:

I'm doing the 100 on my triggers broom, tired looking old BTWIN Riverside 300. I certainly wouldn't risk a nice (new) bike, in any Sportive.

why bother buying a new bike if not use it for events like this ?

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Gary81 | 9 years ago
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Thanks for the heads up BL7!

st33lisr3al - Thanks for the feedback, I will be keeping the Triban as my commuter (only 4 miles each way) and this will be my 'good' bike. Your comment 'God awful SRAM' plus bikemadjo's clubmates experience with it has definitely got me thinking twice about going apex.

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BL7 | 9 years ago
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I offer you a small bit of advice, not on the bike, but on the tyres. I did the P100 last year and I've never seen as many punctures before the official start of an event.

The route and pathways around the Olympic park are all coated in a non-slip flint material, best suited for walking on. It is horrendous for bike tyres.

Make sure you have a decent set of puncture resistant tyres and a number of spare tubes, i.e. more than 2. Also, make sure you have a pump, don't rely on CO2, otherwise your event may be cut short.

I did give the organisers some constructive feedback on this issue last year, but i expect little or nothing will have been done about it.

Enjoy the day, it was excellent flying through London early on the Sunday.

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CXR94Di2 | 9 years ago
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Personally I would stick with your btwin, it's a triple crank and will be invaluable climbing the 3 big hills, aswell as the smaller hills like the one in Wimbledon. Fit a slightly larger rear cass with 32T gear.

The weight difference will be negligible compared to the other bikes. A few kilos lost in body weight will give you more performance over a new bike.

Have your bike serviced, new 25mm fast rolling tyres and you will be fine. The most important bit is have you done enough training? As mentioned pacing, eating and drinking is all important if you are under prepared.

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Gary81 | 9 years ago
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Thanks for the feedback bikemadjo, appreciate it. You're right there are a ton of bikes out that suit but these are the two that have stood out for me, although I could also throw the Scott Speedster 10 into the mix (http://www.pedalon.co.uk/acatalog/scott-speedster-10-2015.html) also but it's not particularly well reviewed. I have a friend who has a PX so will def try and get a ride on both / all three.

st33lisr3al - Yes I have been training and will continue to do so for the next 9 weeks. The Triban is ok but i'm not particularly fond of the triple chainset and the shifting isn't the smoothest but that's more to dowith me needing to give a bit more tlc.

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Martyn_K | 9 years ago
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It is a tough one. There are many factors to look at. As usual when making a big money purchase we can spend too much time second guessing ourselves.

Things to consider.
Have you thrown your leg over either of them to get a feel of the bike, or seen them to get an idea of build quality?
Is there financial capacity to upgrade components in the future, say 18 months time is buying the Planet X?
Is carbon important, considering that sometimes entry level carbon is no better/ lighter than good quality alloy.
Will you be keeping the Triban 3 as a winter bike? Running Ultegra all year can get expensive.
Do you need the accessory points on the Giant Defy deal?

Now i should state that the Mrs has a Planet X Pro carbon and is very happy with it. I did remove the god awful SRAM and replace with 105 though (she had Shimano on her first bike). Its a cracking bike and does what she needs it to do, i find it a bit soft around the BB (thrash it round the block post servicing) but i am used to a high end carbon frame, so this may not be an issue for you. It's a pretty light bike too (component dependent) so obviously helps on the long/ hilly rides.

I know of several people in the club that have Defy's and love them to bits. I've no personal experience with them so can't really evaluate further.

One last point, the sub £1000 market is VERY competitive at the moment. You may be restricted with what is on offer at your dealer (i note the finance deal) but it is worth having a good shop around to find something that ticks all your boxes.

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st33lisr3al | 9 years ago
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Hi Gary, firstly have you trained for the 100? There's no point in buying a new bike if you hasn't trained for the ride! If I wer you, rude what you have and pace yourself, just finishing the even is an achievement

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bikemadjo | 9 years ago
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Hi Gary

There are plenty of bikes out there in this price range that you can look at but seeing as you have narrowed it to these. i will give you my 2 pence on these options.

are you looking for speed, comfort, lightness, looks (admit it we all value this one as much as the others)

Both will be a great step up and get you round with less effort than your Btwin will.

Giant are great at building bikes and their aluminum bikes are very reliable and the addition of Ultegra (11 speed) will no doubt make this a great bike to ride. having ridden a defy for a little bit and they are very comfortable for long rides like the ridelondon.

The PlanetX/Sram however will probably be lighter overall and help better on the hills in the latter part of the ride (i did the ride last year and the route doesn't show a few of the final hills/kick ups) which would be easier on a lighter bike

the decider for me personally would be what you are after in the long run. Aluminum is very reliable in a variety of weathers and better chance of carrying on in crashes (touch wood you don't crash but it occasionally happens especially in Richmond park last year  3 ) and crisp shifting of Ultegra over lack of weight of a carbon frame and future upgrade ability.

Disclaimer: i've never used Apex so it maybe crisp as well but i have heard club mates cursing their Apex groupsets at some times.

At the end of the day, you need to try to ride both (if possible with planetX) and see which one you think would be better for you and your goals.

But i'm sure both will allow you to enjoy the experience.

Let us know what you go with!

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