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Ah! Do you realize the peace of mind to know I can play around with my team at will and not be charged with any transfers right now? I don't have to count my transfers, wait to the last minute, check start lists (for now)! Yay! This is game heaven! Nirvana! Thank god for these relatively peaceful days! ... before the storm coming saturday night of course!
its ok .. you could of dropped a clanger by picking your team BEFORE the lists were released and have 4 riders now greyed out .. although itll probably make no differnce to my overall score as my classics results are pretty awful of late .. as long as boonen magically wins 4 .. ill be on track
If you have a rider 'greyed out' in your team can he still earn bonus points for being on the same team as the winner?
No.
I can think of a long answer......so simple one. NO
I suppose I didn't pay that much attention to how many transfers we have and when, but as it as at the moment, I have a full team having made only one transfer since GW so I think this time I was lucky and I'm definitely going to pay more attention in the future. I think I'm gonna leave my final final final selection until tomorrow night, though, and then be paranoid the entire time at work on Sunday that I've messed up and picked guys who aren't riding after all
I'm all over my tactics: read simon's preview and pick riders that he namechecks
i'll be updating the start list today
Cheers Dave
Hope you've got your tatics right, we need to catch Sparta_FC!
Going back to my previous post, i mentioned that i have Roulston RSN but he's grayed out! Slight problem with that, he's in RSN team list on cycling fever and RSN offical website??!
Dave can i have my rider back please?
Many Thanks
People should remember last year when you had to calculate possible transfers by hand, rider values could change so a combination that sneaked in before now didn't work and thank god for the reset button, use it all the time when there are unlimited transfers. The current system is so, so easy by comparison to last year.
Generally speaking finalising a team the evening before is not normally a problem during a GT. Sometimes do it early although leave it till late if I'm sure I'll have enough time. If there were doubts about a big star rider I might wait but apart from the last couple of stages which are on a weekend morning I've always made up my mind by the evening before with no real problems.
On the plus side full list is available for Amstel gold!
http://www.amstelgoldrace.nl/index.php?pageId=33&languageId=12
http://www.cyclingfever.com/editie.html?detp=view&_ap=startlijst&editie_...
Some names starting to trickle onto the start list for P-R
Although Vacansoleil seem to be trying to stack things in their favour by taking 11 riders
At the moment, i still have a full team so not making any changes, but have 2 spare just incase, because i can only carry 2 over to P-R hoping i wont need 6, but keeping them just incase
If you think about it logically, If it's a DS grayed out then not a huge loss really is especially if he is one of those DS'S you pick just to make up the numbers.
I've lost one DS to gray out and he like 3 of my other DS never scored for me at Gent! so i'll just leave him and save my transfer for Roubaix.
Cheap DS chances of scoring are if you have a star who is likely to win a one day race. ie: had trentin OPQ and Boonen OPQ won, so bonus.
My grayed out rider is from RSN and can't put anyone cheap enough on the same team as my stars to have a chance of bonus so he stays in my team. Cancellara not gonna to win Flanders any rate
But i do wish Roubaix start list would hurry up!
Didn't know they were grouped together. Either I totally missed it or it wasn't made obvious enough coming up to the first event
Guess I'll have to have a limited team. Domestiques will; not make up the 40 points
I missed it as well as it wasn't clear but found it in http://fantasy.road.cc/stages
Done my homework but sorry to see two of mine pull out so soon. Transfers not done yet - waiting til Friday night. Here's hoping there are no surprises before then, as I'm banking on a 1, 2, 3. For once.
I would expect to see a P-R provisional list before the weekend
@TERatacliffe26 I've got Demare as well as my only definite non-rider, GW was a bit tough for him but he may be useful later on I reckon. Already got me a few points when he got his first win.
Going to make my transfers at the last minute as quite a few riders could easily get injured this week and I'd like to see a provisional list for P-R as well.
I don't think 4 transfers is that bad and the Classics do split into a couple of groups with somewhat different terrain so I don't think the current system needs changing for next year.
I like the way it is. 4 transfers and homework are good enough .... especially as I am 5th overall
I was one for keeping them all separate, but the majority was to split it slightly and give a couple of unlimited windows to help out the guys who play pursuit, so we all knew about it before hand.
As TER says, as soon as the Gent - Wevelgem finished i said this
So it was all about planning ahead, none of us know 100% that any rider will be in a race ahead of official FULL startlists are out, certain provisional lists are out there for people who want to check them
http://www.steephill.tv has alot, for instance, Vuelta al Pais Vasco starts on April 2nd, the provisional list has been out since 24th March
Also
http://www.cyclingfever.com/races.html is quite good at listing teams and riders
Thats only a couple of clicks if you don't want to get into loads of homework
I have 8 out of 9 riders riding (knew demare wasnt riding, already had my transfers planned , but with some flexability). Its a homework issue in my opinion (fair enough having 1 or 2 no riding, but 6 seems like no research at all has been done. Its all right saying we should have unlimited transfers, but its the same for everyone, and others manage. As I said on a previous thread the classics is the trickiest comp to pick for due to the time gaps, but also the most rewarding points wise, so research is all the more important. and you cant just bring in the GC guys for easy points. Its a much more risk vs reward. (I will see if my risk is rewarded in Ronde)
i can tell you the full provisional start list for Ronde was online before Gent started (even if full rosters were not listed its easy to get an idea of riders who are gonna be riding), and i believe the same will happen for P-R before sundays race has started.
Making transfers the week before the race is your risk enrique. Gkam did warn all on the Gent thread about this straight after Gent had finished
Ditto, I've still got a full team.
We're not being flippant, that's just part of the game, the classics are difficult to predict and picking a team who'll mainly be riding all three is tough. Just be happy that Dave has added in two unlimited transfer windows rather than the 6 transfer windows that were in place up until a few weeks ago.
My advice, if some of your 6 are likely to ride the P-R keep them and transfer the others.
Most definitely a case of no homework or no forward thinking, ALL of my team from Gent - Wevelgem are riding Tour of Flanders
The only way to swap out the 6 riders is to lose 40 points
I think thats what you call not doing your homework matey.....
I agree with you. I really don't know if the start lists are available so far in advance, Are they? They sure seem to change a lot (!) at the last minute.
I agree we should have unlimited transfers in the Classics. I wish we did! As someone said in another thread:
Well, for whatever it's worth, I'm in a little bit of the same situation:
I suggested:
That said, I think your only option under the current rules is to use up some points buying extra transfers at 20 points each (!)
Ad, of course, follow the good doctor's advice:
It's a pretty intense game and it's geared for people who can stay up, look at the team rosters at the last minute, know cycling and its history, pay attention to the news and blogs, do their research, etc...
I'm bringing this conversation over from another thread. It seems more related to this topic than the other one.
Professional teams provide a provisional start list to these races and make changes all the time. My idea is that we should be able to make changes to our teams, at will, on the game interface, and yet only be charged for transfers when the actual race starts.
So I could make 20 changes to my team, but as long as, at race start, I effectively only swapped four riders from my last team, in the Classics window that provides 4 transfers, for example, I should be under or at my free transfer limit and be ok.
Yeah! As long as by race start, if I compare my previous team to my proposed team, in the case of the Classics, my 'new' team hasn't changed by more than 4 riders. I could play around with all sorts of combinations, and if I make a combination that exceeds the 4 changes to my original team, the system would warn me, that, compared to my last team, I have exceeded my transfers and will be charged so many points. It may sound complicated, but I think it's fair.
I understand:
but...
and...
But that is one of the rules, once you make your transfers that is final, so once you make your 4 that is it, so if you stored up your transfers, ie before stage 3 of a GT you made your transfers for stage 6, then you shouldnt be allowed to re-change them as the rule is once you click the big green button your transfers are final.
That is why if possible you shouldnt make your transfers till as close as possible
As for playing round wiht your team, you can so long as you dont actually make the transfers, you just click the reset transfers button, but then actually make your transfers when you have decided
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