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dave atkinson replied to simon F | 11 years ago
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simon F wrote:

Just a minor point on high scores - my Palmares shows a highest score of 222 (from yesterday - St 5 of VPV) but I had 242 in the Col D'eze TT in Paris-Nice. Any idea why?

i'll have a look at that

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ray silvester replied to dave atkinson | 11 years ago
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Dave Atkinson wrote:
simon F wrote:

Just a minor point on high scores - my Palmares shows a highest score of 222 (from yesterday - St 5 of VPV) but I had 242 in the Col D'eze TT in Paris-Nice. Any idea why?

i'll have a look at that

Bizarrely I'm in the same boat except my best stage score is shown as the 212 I got in the 2012 Tour of Britain stage 6 Welshpool-Caerphilly rather than my 242 for the Col D'Eze ITT in Paris-Nice.

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dave atkinson | 11 years ago
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scrub that, the data was right in the DB but wasn't displaying correctly. should be now...

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enrique replied to dave atkinson | 11 years ago
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Dave Atkinson wrote:

i haven't changed anything, so presumably all the time you've been moaning it's been working just fine?

Guess not!  1

Dave Atkinson wrote:

scrub that, the data was right in the DB but wasn't displaying correctly. should be now...

Thanks, Dave! Appreciate it!  1 I know I moan a lot but I am definitely thankful for all the attention!  1

By the way, not that you're in the mood to do any research on this, but I would expect there's a ton of scores this year that far surpass last year's - 2012 -Season High Score, right?...

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enrique | 11 years ago
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Dave, the run of High Scores for today's Pais Vasco stage is absurdly high! Wow! There are so many people with really high scores - 48! Wow!  1

How can we see the High Scores for the WHOLE season not just the High scores for the current stage? Wasn't there a page last year where it would tell you the Highest Stage Scores and the Stage they were accomplished in? I'd love to see that again! Thanks!

1 BeachRoadCervelo nwhalbo 270
2 spqr stumps 266
3 DAMS-Lidl mafioso 257
3= De Peddelaars ChefSpijker 257
3= Team Sky Blue NeilG83 257
3= Rollende Apotheken sepporepi 257
3= Velodrone Velodrone 257
3= Renfra Bunch 2013 JohnnyRemo 257
3= pclark007 pclark007 257
3= Velosophy grahamdenny 257
3= Radio Bank guinunes 257
3= korfing Cyclists korf2911 257
3= henrydavis henrydavis 257
3= Huggy's Bush Prestige huggyboy 257
3= Rüttelrüttelrüttel 2YardTjard 257
3= Wildcards Wildcard 257
3= Marina's Diamonds Julie Danson 257
3= Back Door Surprise Chris Bevan 257
19 OJB Racing obutterwick 255
19= Team Foo Fighters GWIN76 255
19= Team Ogster rael11 255
25 SW Clarion rahw 247
25= The Manx Missiles manxfelipe 247
25= kaysing kaysing 247
33 Fat Bob & his Pie in the Skys Cambat 245
34 celerissimus domobrien96 244
36= felixxx felixxx 243
36= Kendoddsdadsdogsdead simonwarren007 243
47 Ystwyth cc - vagabonds martyntr 242
47= IP2W IP2W 242

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ray silvester replied to enrique | 11 years ago
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Dave, the run of High Scores for today's Pais Vasco stage is absurdly high! Wow! There are so many people with really high scores - 48! Wow!  1

How can we see the High Scores for the WHOLE season not just the High scores for the current stage? Wasn't there a page last year where it would tell you the Highest Stage Scores and the Stage they were accomplished in? I'd love to see that again! Thanks!

1 BeachRoadCervelo nwhalbo 270
2 spqr stumps 266
3 DAMS-Lidl mafioso 257
3= De Peddelaars ChefSpijker 257
3= Team Sky Blue NeilG83 257
3= Rollende Apotheken sepporepi 257
3= Velodrone Velodrone 257
3= Renfra Bunch 2013 JohnnyRemo 257
3= pclark007 pclark007 257
3= Velosophy grahamdenny 257
3= Radio Bank guinunes 257
3= korfing Cyclists korf2911 257
3= henrydavis henrydavis 257
3= Huggy's Bush Prestige huggyboy 257
3= Rüttelrüttelrüttel 2YardTjard 257
3= Wildcards Wildcard 257
3= Marina's Diamonds Julie Danson 257
3= Back Door Surprise Chris Bevan 257
19 OJB Racing obutterwick 255
19= Team Foo Fighters GWIN76 255
19= Team Ogster rael11 255
25 SW Clarion rahw 247
25= The Manx Missiles manxfelipe 247
25= kaysing kaysing 247
33 Fat Bob & his Pie in the Skys Cambat 245
34 celerissimus domobrien96 244
36= felixxx felixxx 243
36= Kendoddsdadsdogsdead simonwarren007 243
47 Ystwyth cc - vagabonds martyntr 242
47= IP2W IP2W 242

seconded

and I agree that the last 2 stages in the Basque Country have been absurdly high scoring(except for me  31 ).

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dave atkinson replied to enrique | 11 years ago
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enrique wrote:

Dave, the run of High Scores for today's Pais Vasco stage is absurdly high! Wow! There are so many people with really high scores - 48! Wow!  1

How can we see the High Scores for the WHOLE season not just the High scores for the current stage? Wasn't there a page last year where it would tell you the Highest Stage Scores and the Stage they were accomplished in? I'd love to see that again! Thanks!

1 BeachRoadCervelo nwhalbo 270
2 spqr stumps 266
3 DAMS-Lidl mafioso 257
3= De Peddelaars ChefSpijker 257
3= Team Sky Blue NeilG83 257
3= Rollende Apotheken sepporepi 257
3= Velodrone Velodrone 257
3= Renfra Bunch 2013 JohnnyRemo 257
3= pclark007 pclark007 257
3= Velosophy grahamdenny 257
3= Radio Bank guinunes 257
3= korfing Cyclists korf2911 257
3= henrydavis henrydavis 257
3= Huggy's Bush Prestige huggyboy 257
3= Rüttelrüttelrüttel 2YardTjard 257
3= Wildcards Wildcard 257
3= Marina's Diamonds Julie Danson 257
3= Back Door Surprise Chris Bevan 257
19 OJB Racing obutterwick 255
19= Team Foo Fighters GWIN76 255
19= Team Ogster rael11 255
25 SW Clarion rahw 247
25= The Manx Missiles manxfelipe 247
25= kaysing kaysing 247
33 Fat Bob & his Pie in the Skys Cambat 245
34 celerissimus domobrien96 244
36= felixxx felixxx 243
36= Kendoddsdadsdogsdead simonwarren007 243
47 Ystwyth cc - vagabonds martyntr 242
47= IP2W IP2W 242

those are the high scores for the whole season. they're all from three stages though, the last two of the basque and the final stage of paris-nice.

i haven't changed anything, so presumably all the time you've been moaning it's been working just fine?

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dave atkinson | 11 years ago
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I've added a script that deletes all roster changes over 3 days old

no, they can't be shown in reverse order to the other threads

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ray silvester | 11 years ago
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He does tend to ask the things we're all thinking though?

But yeah....hilarious strap-line

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Gkam84 replied to ray silvester | 11 years ago
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ray silvester wrote:

He does tend to ask the things we're all thinking though?

But yeah....hilarious strap-line

Sometimes he does come up with good questions.

My only request is to STOP the multi quoting from other threads. If you are going to quote, only use ones from the thread you are commenting it.

Otherwise its pointless because we got no idea where its come from and what the rest of the conversation involved. So it could be way out of context/

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JAndrewHill | 11 years ago
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Enrique is a nice little chappy,
And with his own thread he'll be so so happy
 36  36 ni

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Gkam84 | 11 years ago
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 103  35

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livestrongnick | 11 years ago
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 24  24  24

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northstar | 11 years ago
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drheaton | 11 years ago
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Can we change the name of this thread to "enrique's" questions?

Also, there's no need to change the automatic roster thread to show the latest at the top, just click on the little number showing how many new posts there are, that takes you to the latest one.

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enrique replied to drheaton | 11 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

Can we change the name of this thread to "enrique's" questions?...

Done!  1

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enrique | 11 years ago
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enrique wrote:

...while I appreciate the "Fantasy Cycling: The Automatic Roster Changes Forum Thread", it's too long...  2 ...

Dave, would you consider changing the Automatic Roster Changes Forum Thread so it lists latest posts first? Just so we can see the latest updates first? By the way, is anything updated on that thread immediately updated on the Rankings page? Or is there a delay? Thanks!  1

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northstar | 11 years ago
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Thanks guys : )

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drheaton | 11 years ago
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No, top ten in a competition at any point.

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northstar | 11 years ago
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What is the high roller award for? Recieved it today but not really sure why.

Thanks

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TERatcliffe26 replied to northstar | 11 years ago
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northstar wrote:

What is the high roller award for? Recieved it today but not really sure why.

Thanks

Top 10 on a stage I think

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drheaton | 11 years ago
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I quite like the rolling rider ranking page but is there a way of adding arrows to each rider to show whether they're moving up or down? It's not necessarily easy to see who's gaining in relation to others over twelve months and who's falling behind. It'd be nice to pick out a rider like Boonen who's likely to have dropped a few places or Slagter who's gained a few based on rolling 12 month points hauls.

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dave atkinson replied to drheaton | 11 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

I quite like the rolling rider ranking page but is there a way of adding arrows to each rider to show whether they're moving up or down? It's not necessarily easy to see who's gaining in relation to others over twelve months and who's falling behind. It'd be nice to pick out a rider like Boonen who's likely to have dropped a few places or Slagter who's gained a few based on rolling 12 month points hauls.

yeah, we should probably do that. i was thinking the other day that it would be handy

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enrique replied to drheaton | 11 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

I quite like the rolling rider ranking page but is there a way of adding arrows to each rider to show whether they're moving up or down?...

I like this idea...

Dave, would you also consider adding a column that would display just the current season - 2013 - points? I think that's the way it was last year on the Race Roster page. Thanks!  1

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sanderville | 11 years ago
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Can I just say that the Dashboard is turning out to be excellent?

I think I can.

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TERatcliffe26 | 11 years ago
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To your second point, I believe because of how we upload the scores, you cant just exclude results as you put it. Im not sure how Dave does it exactly to calculate the values though. Also in reference to this point, basically you shouldn't exclude any points, points are points and there are many ways to accumulate points and those are what he scored. All points in our game count to the total and so should count to how valuable a rider is.

In reference to you last point, in the riders eyes stage 2 of the TDU was flat. Just because the race didnt end in a sprint shouldn't mean the way you would class a stage should be manipulated. Same with todays ToQ stage, it was pan flat but it wasn't sprinters who scored big, in fact some bug sprinters finished 16 mins down, for anyone looking at the results you could have said it represented a hilly stage.

My point being you get odd results and you are looking at just one stage as we only have that amount of data at the moment for this way of value calculating, but with more and more data eradicates the obscure results and maybe Thomas value wouldn't be so high.

But just because there is one rider who you personally think shouldn't be valued so high, doesn't mean the calculations are not giving fair values across the board

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Stumps | 11 years ago
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Cant fault the game at the mo, much better than last year although my scores aren't  20

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livestrongnick | 11 years ago
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 41 bravo Dave  41 Keep up the excellent work can't fault the game!  41

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dave atkinson | 11 years ago
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mainly, i think you're a bit put out that there aren't as many bargains to be had. but that just means the game is doing a better job of calculating the rider values than last year.

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drheaton replied to dave atkinson | 11 years ago
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Dave Atkinson wrote:

mainly, i think you're a bit put out that there aren't as many bargains to be had. but that just means the game is doing a better job of calculating the rider values than last year.

Also, last year prices were calculated at the start of the year and left unchanged. That meant that riders like Degenkolb, Bouhanni, Guardini etc who were relatively unknown and unsuccessful at the start of the year were cheap and remained cheap all year despite winning lots of races. Even without the change to the logic and having varying prices their values would have increased this year regardless.

This year if a rider has a breakout season and wins races early on in the year they'll get more expensive as the year goes on. This gets rid of a lot of the weird values that start to occur in the mid to late season and Dave is right, more often than not the game logic will do a better job of pricing riders than a person would.

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