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Tour of California stage 2

What are we expecting today then? I had a very sprint-biased team yesterday which obviously didn't work out too well, so have taken a ten-point hit, but still not really much of an idea who will do well.

Brought in Westra, and Tejay, and someone I didn't expect to go for all season - Andy Schleck - who looked fairly comfortable and interested yesterday.

Still have 4 sprinters though, so won't be a good day - expecting to lose my 2nd place in the Forum Scorum's league tonight! (And then take it back tomorrow with an 80-point solo win from Wauters in the Giro. Maybe.)

If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.

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NeilG83 | 11 years ago
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2,3,5,8,18 for me. Quite happy with that.

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simon F | 11 years ago
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1,2,3,8 for standard. 1,2,3,8,10,13 for purist. Deignan in today was probably a good move. Schleck, less so.

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Stumps | 11 years ago
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TOP 20 ON THE STAGE.

1 ACEVEDO COLLE, Javier Alexis
2 VAN GARDEREN, Tejay
3 DEIGNAN, Philip
4 FRANK, Mathias
5 ROGERS, Michael
6 HAGA, Chad
7 BUSCHE, Matthew
8 MANCEBO PEREZ, Francisco
9 CRADDOCK, Lawson
10 MEYER, Cameron
11 DE MAAR, Marc
12 JENKINS, Max
13 EUSER, Lucas
14 ENGLISH, Nathaniel
15 GAIMON, Phillip
16 MORTON, Lachlan David
17 BALDWIN, Christopher
18 KONIG, Leopold
19 DIDIER, Laurent
20 BUTLER, Chris

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NeilG83 | 11 years ago
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Did anybody else find that uncomfortable viewing? A long stage with a 25% finishing climb in 44 degree heat.

I'm all for tough racing, but in my opinion that crossed the line of what's acceptable.

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Gkam84 | 11 years ago
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With 10 minutes covering the first 30 or so riders. You are going to be luck to have half the peloton in within the time limit......This could be a scrapped stage for timing after place 50 or so.

Plus riders lying at the side of the road totally out of it.....

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NeilG83 | 11 years ago
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117 finishers inside the time cut according to PCS including Serry.

Vancansoleil down 3 riders 1 DNF and 2 outside time limit.

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Gkam84 | 11 years ago
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The same idiot who had to cancel stages because of snow last year and the year before....  19

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Gkam84 | 11 years ago
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You know its BAD, when almost every rider has a different time gap

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Gkam84 | 11 years ago
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Cantwell finished today, but is OUT, suspected broken ribs and what a mess his leg is in https://twitter.com/J_Cantwell/status/334091522809135104/photo/1/large

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Abbie | 11 years ago
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That was not pleasant to watch at the end. It looked dangerous to there health. I hope everyone makes a full recovery and is able to race tomorrow.

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Gkam84 | 11 years ago
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I can't see it, I think there will be a number of DNS tomorrow.

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TERatcliffe26 replied to Wig_Billy | 11 years ago
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Wig_Billy wrote:

1,2,5,8,13,18

Probably not worth the 40 point penalty...

You will still easily outscore me!

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Wig_Billy replied to simon F | 11 years ago
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simon F wrote:

1,2,3,8 for standard. 1,2,3,8,10,13 for purist. Deignan in today was probably a good move. Schleck, less so.

Wow, I think you'll be miles ahead in both overall competitions.

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TERatcliffe26 replied to NeilG83 | 11 years ago
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NeilG83 wrote:

Did anybody else find that uncomfortable viewing? A long stage with a 25% finishing climb in 44 degree heat.

I'm all for tough racing, but in my opinion that crossed the line of what's acceptable.

Agreed

It shows when over half the top 20 are either American or regulary race in America, how tough it was, As tough as the climb was I can't imagine Westra having lost 8 minutes had that been in europe

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TERatcliffe26 replied to Gkam84 | 11 years ago
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Gkam84 wrote:

With 10 minutes covering the first 30 or so riders. You are going to be luck to have half the peloton in within the time limit......This could be a scrapped stage for timing after place 50 or so.

Plus riders lying at the side of the road totally out of it.....

110 riders inside the limit at the moment (22 mins down) including the main protagonists for the flat stages, Sagan, Meersman, Matthews.

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NeilG83 replied to Gkam84 | 11 years ago
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Gkam84 wrote:

The same idiot who had to cancel stages because of snow last year and the year before....  19

Thought it probably was.  14

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NeilG83 replied to TERatcliffe26 | 11 years ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
NeilG83 wrote:

Did anybody else find that uncomfortable viewing? A long stage with a 25% finishing climb in 44 degree heat.

I'm all for tough racing, but in my opinion that crossed the line of what's acceptable.

Agreed

It shows when over half the top 20 are either American or regulary race in America, how tough it was, As tough as the climb was I can't imagine Westra having lost 8 minutes had that been in europe

Which idiot thought it was a good idea to hold a bike race in the desert in the middle of May?

Why has there been no protest from the teams or riders?

It was shocking to see the state Pieter Serry was in. Sport is meant to be entertainment. See riders risk their health is not fun to watch.

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TERatcliffe26 replied to simon F | 11 years ago
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simon F wrote:

1,2,3,8 for standard. 1,2,3,8,10,13 for purist. Deignan in today was probably a good move. Schleck, less so.

Defo ruing my Gilbert gamble now! I didn't get the memo on bringing in Deignan either

Cheers for blowing my purist team out of the water too!

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Alan Tullett replied to Wig_Billy | 11 years ago
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Wig_Billy wrote:

1,2,5,8,13,18

Probably not worth the 40 point penalty...

I looked at your team and thought damn he scored more than me even taking a penalty! In fact I've realised a bit late that the penalty point strategy is the best one. Took a few hits in the Giro and they worked out and got me back into a semi-respectable position. Will be using it again but wasn't thinking about it two nights ago. Wasn't sure about TJ either but should have had Acevedo as I'd read about him in Cycling News but forgot his name. Race more interesting than last year but climbing talent is not so strong. Painful to watch at times as well.

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Wig_Billy replied to Alan Tullett | 11 years ago
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Alan Tullett wrote:
Wig_Billy wrote:

1,2,5,8,13,18

Probably not worth the 40 point penalty...

I looked at your team and thought damn he scored more than me even taking a penalty! In fact I've realised a bit late that the penalty point strategy is the best one. Took a few hits in the Giro and they worked out and got me back into a semi-respectable position. Will be using it again but wasn't thinking about it two nights ago. Wasn't sure about TJ either but should have had Acevedo as I'd read about him in Cycling News but forgot his name. Race more interesting than last year but climbing talent is not so strong. Painful to watch at times as well.

It is a good strategy, but I don't think it was the right one for this race. My purist team is currently doing better than my standard team, and today I'll just be bringing in riders who I got rid of yesterday (possibly for more penalty points). Conclusion - it would've been better to do a bit more forward planning.  26

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Stumps | 11 years ago
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30k left and the gap is 4.15.

They look like they are putting ice packs down their tops to combat the heat.

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Gkam84 | 11 years ago
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Busche and Mancebo might get you something, but its only going to be the big guys up the last climb I think after this heat

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Alan Tullett | 11 years ago
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Got Chavanel but he won't get many points. Otherwise got Sagan Meersman Meyer Busche Mancebo Westra Deignan Dempster

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Gkam84 | 11 years ago
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You have NO chance with Gilbert, he's the water boy again

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TERatcliffe26 replied to Gkam84 | 11 years ago
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Gkam84 wrote:

You have NO chance with Gilbert, he's the water boy again

Fair enough I took a risk, was gonna bring Tejay in but that would have messed me up for tomorrow. Think Westra, Mancebo and Avecedo should all be up there for me

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Stumps | 11 years ago
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40k left gap at 5.55, they aren't bringing it back very quickly and are running out of road.

Steep climb at the end though.

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TERatcliffe26 | 11 years ago
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Same team for me as yesterday, hoping for a gilbert/Avecedo 1-2

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Stumps | 11 years ago
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Westre off the back, obviously had a problem. Trying to get back on but the peloton are hammering it and he's struggling at the mo.

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Gkam84 | 11 years ago
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My purist team is screwed over again. Marczynski out

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Stumps | 11 years ago
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50k to go gap at 6.10.

Watching it on the Amgen website, the road they are on looks bloody brilliant, oh for downhill stretches like that over here.

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