New Cycliq Fly 12 out

Can anyone help with discount codes and similar?

£432 for the pair is a bit of a stretch. That's not much less than the £650 full price I spent on the basic bike, which then came down to under £500 with Halfords wonderful discount stacking computer.

Though I see that Cycliq have a 10% off first purchase thing.

Not really an improvement much is it. Garmin must be thinking about taking this on now and frankly with the ecosystem they have I can't see them not winning.

Removal of Ant+ light support is a pro from my POV. Their implementation on the older models didn't seem to work very well, leading to unpleasant behaviours like the light turning off while you were riding along. I switched off ANT+ on mine pretty quickly after purchase and have enjoyed using the light much more since then.

No GPS = No Use

Sadly, none of the other big names offer GPS now either, presumably because nobody but me wants it. GoPro abandoned GPS after Hero 7 Black, and also abandoned the highly unreliable PC software, so I'm on borrowed time.

It's still an excellent unit, and easily the best available... however its not without fault albeit with the software side of things.

I've had a Fly12CE for about 3 years and counting.
One of the things about the CE that I particularly liked was that - unlike the Gen 2 Fly 6 that I also have - there is no frame overlap between each segment.
This means you can drop your entire ride on to something like ffmpeg and it would join the segments to form one seamless video, and that could be then dropped in to Dashaware or Garmin Virb Editor so you could add the gpx data in one foul swoop.
However...
The software has changed, and there now seems to be approximately 1 second of overlap between each segment... and this seems to fluctuate slightly by a few frames either side. So it now behaves in the same manner that the Fly6 does.
Fine if you only want one or two segments - just load it up in you video editor and manually align ... not a big deal.
Unless you have a full 3 hour ride - which is 18 10min segments.
Ffmpeg would join these in maybe 15mins - 30mins at the most. It now takes hours to align 18 segments manually, and render the video.

Another problem is that the 12 Sport appears to use the h.265 codec ... so in order to add metrix data from gpx, you have to convert from h.265 to h.264 ... which means that when you do your render of the stiched segments, you have to save it, unedited, using h.265 ... rending is normally a 1:1 process, so a 3 hour ride will take about 3 hours to render.
This is on top of the at least 1 hour spent stitching segments together.

You then have to put it through your metrix software - which is why you can't edit the video in the stiching process ... so again your looking at around 3 hours to render ... so that's now 7 hours to do something that before would take about 3.15hours before.

Then ... you have to load it in to your video editing software to add titles, music, trim out the stops etc ... and render it again. Say you've took out 15mins of junk ... so another 2.45 on top of the 7 hours you've already spent ...
So nearly 10 hours to do something that used to take 4 or 5.

Oh ... and don't think that they have sorted the frame rate issue between the 6 and the 12 as they haven't. You still cannot synchronise full segments shot on the 6 and 12 ...

Despite the software issue - that's only really an issue if like me you want to publish a full ride - I still have absolutely no hesitation in recommending the Cycliq cameras.

If they could drop the 1/8th turn mount and go to a 1/4 turn, that would be fantastic too ...

have they fixed the lens scratching so easily ?

I'm keeping an eye on that as I'm going to need to replace my original Fly12 model at some point. It's been dropped multiple times, has a bit of a rattle and I've accidentally removed the charge port cover, but it's still working.