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Video: Cyclist and police in panto chat about pedestrian zone

Oh yes I can! Oh no you can't! He's behind you!...

Pantomime season arrived in Reading town centre yesterday with this interaction between a police officer who was determined to make a cyclist walk along a cycle route through a pedestrian area and cyclist Richard Black who was equally determined not to.

Meanwhile, gert big trucks roll through the area making deliveries, but the officer's fine with that, and as he has his back to the junction he can't see the riders cheerfully ignoring the signs and riding out of the 'No cycling' area.

Gems from the discussion include the officer telling Black: “You haven't hit anyone yet, but you might do,” a philosophy we'd love to see applied the roads — think of the deaths and injuries that it would prevent if applied to white vans and London buses.

The officer changes tack several times, first claiming that it's a no cycling area, and then when the bike lane is pointed out to him, claims Black still has to walk through the junction, and accuses Black of having ridden straight towards him.

Meanwhile, as the “Oh yes I can” / “Oh no you can't” is unfolding, on this side of the screen we're all yelling “It's behind you!” as a lorry reverses down the pedestrian street, clearly posing far less risk to pedestrians than a cyclist doing about 12mph nowhere near any of them.

It's all very polite, but anyone inclined to think police must surely have better things to do with their time is only going to have that opinion reinforced by this.

John has been writing about bikes and cycling for over 30 years since discovering that people were mug enough to pay him for it rather than expecting him to do an honest day's work.

He was heavily involved in the mountain bike boom of the late 1980s as a racer, team manager and race promoter, and that led to writing for Mountain Biking UK magazine shortly after its inception. He got the gig by phoning up the editor and telling him the magazine was rubbish and he could do better. Rather than telling him to get lost, MBUK editor Tym Manley called John’s bluff and the rest is history.

Since then he has worked on MTB Pro magazine and was editor of Maximum Mountain Bike and Australian Mountain Bike magazines, before switching to the web in 2000 to work for CyclingNews.com. Along with road.cc founder Tony Farrelly, John was on the launch team for BikeRadar.com and subsequently became editor in chief of Future Publishing’s group of cycling magazines and websites, including Cycling Plus, MBUK, What Mountain Bike and Procycling.

John has also written for Cyclist magazine, edited the BikeMagic website and was founding editor of TotalWomensCycling.com before handing over to someone far more representative of the site's main audience.

He joined road.cc in 2013. He lives in Cambridge where the lack of hills is more than made up for by the headwinds.

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Airzound replied to Cyclist | 10 years ago
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Cyclist wrote:

Pay peanuts..............

The shocking thing is these morons aren't paid peanuts!

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SideBurn | 10 years ago
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This has made my day!
Please people make this go viral!
My experience of PCSO's is not great, they try hard and mean well, but....
I recently had a humorous and unprintable exchange with a real Police officer about a PCSO who had been sent out to guard a puddle of water! There were hundreds of puddles everywhere! But this one was clearly very special and needed its own PCSO!

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Roberj4 | 10 years ago
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Reversing van in a pedestrian zone, where's it's warning reversing sound to alert passers by? Think the police need to red tape and fence off the van...sorry Officer it's allowed to because it's not classed as an articulated lorry, I do appologise!

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edster99 | 10 years ago
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stop digging that hole you are in! please!  24

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PaulBox | 10 years ago
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I bet that copper is getting his @rse handed to him by his colleagues, what a knob.  21

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severs1966 replied to PaulBox | 10 years ago
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PaulBox wrote:

I bet that copper is getting his @rse handed to him by his colleagues, what a knob.

Unlikely that they will give a damn, actually.

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hairyairey | 10 years ago
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Sometimes I think some of these PCSOs and Police Officers do things out of boredom. This is probably one of those times.

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step-hent | 10 years ago
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I think the spectacular waste of everyone's time was more than made up for by the entertainment value here  41

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WindyGeorge | 10 years ago
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Not sure I would of been that patient to be honest! Should of just admitted he was wrong when the signs were pointed out!

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P3t3 replied to WindyGeorge | 10 years ago
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WindyGeorge wrote:

Not sure I would of been that patient to be honest! Should of just admitted he was wrong when the signs were pointed out!

"you know the golden rule of authority: it never backs down"

Andy Kirkpatrick

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congokid | 10 years ago
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Most of the PSCOs they dragged in for Operation Safeway in London recently weren't any better informed, sadly.

Is it beyond the wit of police forces to educate and train the people who work for them, especially when doing tasks of this nature?

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Rupert | 10 years ago
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Phew that is painful to watch ......... a learning experience for the policeman, especially now it's all over the internet, but once he realised that he was wrong he should of apologised and let the cyclist go on his way.
I am surprised the cyclist wasn't searched under the terrorism act, or worse detained for filming in a private place or some other game the police play these days. That said policing isn't an easy job and lets not be too hard on this officer of the law. He's just trying to do his best (badly). We also can't be sure of the orders he's been given by his superiors.

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Ush replied to Rupert | 10 years ago
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Rupert wrote:

Phew that is painful to watch ......... a learning experience for the policeman,

One hopes.

I'd rather he were gainfully employed washing my nan's bedpans.

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jacknorell replied to Rupert | 10 years ago
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Rupert wrote:

That said policing isn't an easy job and lets not be too hard on this officer of the law. He's just trying to do his best (badly).

1 - He's not a police officer, he's a PCSO
2 - The 'orders' were a request from some busybody parents to probably 'do something about those cyclists' as referenced in the video
3 - The whole interaction had NO legal basis

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gb901 replied to jacknorell | 10 years ago
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jacknorell wrote:
Rupert wrote:

That said policing isn't an easy job and lets not be too hard on this officer of the law. He's just trying to do his best (badly).

1 - He's not a police officer, he's a PCSO
2 - The 'orders' were a request from some busybody parents to probably 'do something about those cyclists' as referenced in the video
3 - The whole interaction had NO legal basis

No, incredibly, he is a police officer. His female colleague, there for support (snigger!) is a plastic bobby.

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chrubble | 10 years ago
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The route, the road that he cycles up and the road he is intending to turn in to, is clearly marked on the Reading Cycle Routes map here: http://www.reading-travelinfo.co.uk/cycling/network-map.aspx as the Purple "Town Centre Route", as is the Yellow "Pedesterian area, cyclists dismount" zone which is right of the junction that is pointed out in the video. The police persons don't know what they are on about.

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Chuck | 10 years ago
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Oh dear. Looks like the PC misjudged it and then kept digging rather than lose face.

Would be interesting to see just how many people have actually been knocked down by bikes there as he claims.

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mlimburn | 10 years ago
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Gobsmacked, simply both police officer and pcso are too stupid to wear a uniform.

If the council had seen a need to ask them to stop people riding in a cycle lane then the council should have had a planning meeting to change the use of the path! and then change it. Just another example of a copper not having a clue about cycling. Personally I would have rode off saying arrest me!!!

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caaad10 | 10 years ago
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Didn't hear the word "Pleb" once

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Ush replied to caaad10 | 10 years ago
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caaad10 wrote:

Didn't hear the word "Pleb" once

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jacknorell | 10 years ago
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So, they're taking orders from random parents now, are they?

A real police officer would have set the worry warts straight I'd hope.

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velobetty | 10 years ago
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Hope that guy doesn't get to become a proper copper.

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bikebot replied to velobetty | 10 years ago
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roseofwinter wrote:

Hope that guy doesn't get to become a proper copper.

Well, as my mate who was a proper copper sometimes remarks, the entry qualifications for the Police really aren't that high.

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gb901 replied to bikebot | 10 years ago
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bikebot wrote:
roseofwinter wrote:

Hope that guy doesn't get to become a proper copper.

Well, as my mate who was a proper copper sometimes remarks, the entry qualifications for the Police really aren't that high.

Non existent, infact!

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LondonDynaslow | 10 years ago
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That was really funny, thanks!

The words under the sign are most surplus AND confusing. Kingston has the same wording, so you get glared at if you ride through there, but you're allowed to. In fact, that's the only way I've managed to find the entrance to the (shared use) cycle route, and thereby avoid the terrifying ring road.

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Joselito | 10 years ago
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'I thought you weren't going to stop.'

Thought crime alert.

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ct | 10 years ago
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Well it made me smile.

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ashbytaylors | 10 years ago
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Wonder if the copper stopped the cyclist coming from the other direction right at the end of the video.  41

I think the copper has missed the point - the lorry is allowed down there because he's making a delivery - errr the cyclist is allowed to cycle down there because he's on (wait for it) a cycle path!!

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Bez | 10 years ago
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Pedantically, it's not a "bike lane" as such: it's a street where motor vehicles are prohibited.

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qwerky replied to Bez | 10 years ago
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Not a "bike lane", but it is explicitly called out as part of Reading's cycle network.

http://www.reading-travelinfo.co.uk/media/99664/reading_cycle_routes_net...

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