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Karma van driver.pngVIDEO: Karma as van driver screaming abuse hits car in front
You might even call it karma… a new video shows the moment that a driver having a row with a cyclist who accused him of cutting him up becomes so riled he rear-ends the car in front.
David Brennan, a helmet-cam cyclist, videoed the moment a van driver cut him up, and decided to speak to him about it as they travelled along Crow Road in Jordanhill, Glasgow.
In the video, entitled, ‘Ooops’ -What happened to the white van driver when he abused a cyclist?, Mr Brennan also captured the moment the white van hit the back of a car in front.
After the crash, someone off-camera shouts: 'Oh for f*** sake'.
In the film, the van overtakes Mr Brennan, who is heard shouting: “No! Are you serious?
“You were overtaking me to get in front of me. Did you really think you were going to get in front of me?
“Goodbye. Jesus, what an idiot!'
A voice, apparently of the van driver, retorts:”Don’t be a f****** p****.'
Once the van hits the car in front, Mr Brennan assures its driver: “Mate, I've got it on camera, so I'll be a witness.
“Mate, he was actually busy shouting profanities at me at the time so he wasn't paying attention.'
The van driver says to the cyclist: “Jog on. You're weaving in and out of the traffic out there causing all sorts of problems.”
But Mr Brennan has the last word, saying: “You were shouting abuse at me and went into the back of somebody.”
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Mr Brennan needs to shave his legs.
Just when you think the irony record couldn't be beaten, an idiot says this after having crashed in to the car in front after having tried the stupidest move ever. MGIF - must get in front. And he was constantly lane changing.
People on bicycles are being endangered, injured and killed by people in motor vehicles so cycle cameras are being used to provide evidence of this. In a very motor-centric society the police and courts simply cannot be relied upon to respond appropriately to the evidence. Consequently it seems entirely reasonable to me for cyclists to confront motorists for their dangerous driving and to show the evidence on YouTube. Anyone who thinks the problem here is with the cyclist rather than with the poor driving and response of the motorist is simply the type of victim-blamer that cyclists encounter all too often in the UK.
I'm struggling to see why he'd need to move out in the first place. There was no reason, particularly if right turning traffic was in the way, for him not to stay behind the bike. That's obviously just me then...
Frankly you pass me on a bike with miss matching bottle cages you're in for some abuse
What I find most is that if there is a scenario where there are cars and cyclists, the cars will encroach upon cyclists space rather than space of other cars. Perhaps it's because cyclists don't have mandatory insurance, so hitting one isn't going to affect your no claims bonus.
I'm fairly certain a collision with a cyclist could end up affecting your insurance. Why wouldn't it?
Good grief. If that cyclist commuted in London he would end up having a fit by the time he got to work.
Maybe its why so many of you in London are been killed, you seem to moan then.
I was surprised by how calm the van driver was when he got out.
Am I watching the right video? I have no idea what the van did to annoy the cyclist. He didn't get too close, he indicated, pulled into the outside lane, overtook at a safe distance respecting the cyclist taking primary in the left hand lane, did not pull in front and did not deliberately move to block filtering, the lanes were just narrower past the lights, at which point the van is well ahead and if anything it is the car in the left lane that is a little far to the right and preventing the cyclist from going down the middle.
Remember that the cyclist has a far better view of the traffic slowing up ahead, after the traffic lights, from an elevated vantage point and has at least as much responsibility to moderate speed and not push through traffic when it isn't safe to do so. I was actually thinking that the cars up the road on the left might even be parked as I initially thought the buildings on left had the look of turning into a parade of shops and that the cyclist was about to be taken out by someone filtering into the right hand lane.
In my opinion, on the evidence of the video, the cyclist must take some responsibility for causing the accident by distracting the van driver and really ought to apologise to both the van driver and the owner of the black estate car that got bumped.
Edit:
I just twigged who authored the video, explains everything. Can we club together to buy Magnatom a bus pass? The man is an absolute liability on a bicycle.
I think the point is that there was no need for the van to pass at that point in that volume of traffic. If he had stayed behind the cyclist, he wouldn't have got so wound up. Too many people think they simply have to get past the cyclist. That includes the three muppets who passed me on this morning's ride.
My point was, he moved out (giving the rider more space) then realised that lane is blocked by right turning traffic and moved back in.
As usual you get the screamy histrionics of the twit on the bike who does this every time someone causes him to brake or alter course.
1. He wasn't 'pointlesssly overtaking' he was merging into the near side lane, which is the default straight on lane in this road, as up ahead is a right turn that only lets through 2 cars at a time, 'magnatom' knows this, he has posted enough videos there to know that.
2. One needs to know the difference between filtering and overtaking on the inside.....
3. More cyclists than drivers in Glasgow have a problem with this particular self righteous idiot and his cameras.
4. Van driver is plainly an idiot.
5. Van driver and the cyclist got themselves severely distracted here, we can see that by angle of head cam....
5. No cyclists were harmed here,this was not prevented by the presence of a helmet cam.
Who knew he was so divisive? Isn't he the guy that organises Pedal on Parliament, with tens of thousands of cyclists attending?
Have a look at any Glasgow specific cycling forums.
He noises up everyone we share the road with and his videos grossly exaggerate the poor driving seen and put people off cycling on the road.
He posts videos when there is no problem, (like this ) confronts and distracts the drivers of moving vehicles (like here to the point the guy crashes) and doesn't know the difference between bad driving and mistakes.
Don't get me wrong, careless or wilful bad driving, I sometimes confront drivers on too, but when they have stopped. Or with apprpriate short hand signals when moving....then I move on. Those many drivers who hold back and allow me to turn right get a thumbs up
He posted a video of a guy in our cycling club who had the temerity to pass him without "giving me a shout".
Pompous, sanctimonious, embarrassing tube.
Seriously is it that hard to notice the van driver purposely closing the cyclists filtering gap? The only vehicle to move their vehicle in such a way as to stop the cyclist's progress?
The driver even presents the plainest of tropes regarding the rider 'weaving in and out of traffic'.
Oh please.
Feel for the innocent Mondeo driver.
The cyclist made a mountain out of a mole hill. Yes the driver was an arse. But let it go. Enjoy the ride.
None of that needed to happen. Camera guy just needed to shake his head and think "what a dick". Done.
These damn helmet camera cyclists! I hate them I really do! Going around asking reasonable questions! Who do they think they are!? If I ever meet this cyclist face to face...... I'll,..... I'll.... Probably smile in the mirror.
Here's a reasonable question. What do you think you're achieving?
Here's another one. Why do so many cyclists deplore what you do?
And a last one. Why don't you take a shorter route to work?
Hold on a second the cyclist was filtering through traffic, the van driver acted aggressively first. He took offence at being passed by a cyclist and immediately tried to get back past. Would he have done the same on a motorcycle. Yes the cyclist was the first to communicate, but "are you serious?" is a good question. The van drive doesn't have an argument so resorts to profanities. Thus I can't see how the cyclist was at fault in anyway.
^ Spot on, it amazes me that people can watch the video and somehow miss that he tried to cut in front of the cyclist at 1:10 in a classic Must-Get-In-Front move that in this case would not benefit him what-so-ever.
An overreaction from both parties in my view but seriously some cyclists piss me off.
How many thousands have been killed or seriously injured over the years by law breaking drivers who escape justice because of lack of evidence? Then people start gathering evidence (and uncountable acts of dangerous driving) and they're suddenly the bad guys who should shut the fuck up an get back in their place?
Come on guys some helmet cam wearers are a bit over the top but they are vastly outnumbered by dickheads in cars
Well said and thank you for saying what I couldn't find the right words to explain.
You guys complaining about helmet cam wearers, I get what you're saying, that some of them inflame the situation, but in all the situations I've seen the cyclist is reacting to aggression or stupidity on the part of the driver, not starting the confrontation. You don't know what happened before the video. Was this guy hassling him for some time before the video started? Did he get cut up by one or more other drivers before this guy and this was the moment he decided he'd had enough of d1ckheads putting him in danger? We've all been there and know how hard it is to keep your cool in that situation.
You don't know the level of experience of the rider. As we all know, the ability to remain calm in a situation where your life is threatened, deliberately or accidentally, improves with experience. None of us can claim to have remained calm every time some driver does something stupid either in an act of aggression or inattention that puts our lives in danger.
OK, not the most considerate piece of driving but not bad enough to start an argument about, imo. And it's not karma for the innocent car driver who got hit.
Kind of reminds me of the so called parody video with the white van pass the other day. Still the driver should have ignored the cyclist and concentrated on the road in front but the cyclist didn't need to do that, I'd have been pleased if a driver had given me that much room.
Funny, but it could just as easily have been the cyclist going into the back of someone while shouting at the driver.
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