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Benches better than cycle lanes, claims councillor

'The current proposals in respect of cycle lanes which are continuing to cause a huge amount of local concern and distress amongst the public'...

A councillor has argued that benches would be a better alternative to proposed new cycle lanes.

It was claimed that possible new bike paths were causing 'huge concern and distress' among locals and that if they were built they would put people off using public transport.

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Sefton Council's Cllr Sir Ron Watson made the comments after he secured funding for four new benches around Southport, Merseyside.

The new seats have been installed along various points of Lulworth Road and Sir Ron says they will provide rest points for people using public transport, the Southport Visiter and Ormskirk Advertiser, reports.

Sir Ron is one of a number of vocal critics of proposals which could see cycle lanes added to a route running between Crossens, Southport and Ainsdale.

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He said: “The aim of the benches is to make it easier for people who are considering using public transport instead of travelling by car because it will allow them to take a break on the way to the bus stop or in its very close vicinity and as such will make like easier for them.

“This is the sort of initiative and forward thinking that has a much more practical effect than the current proposals in respect of cycle lanes which are continuing to cause a huge amount of local concern and distress amongst the public.

“The aim of greater use of public transport is a good one and we have a comprehensive rail and bus network that is the envy of many other parts of the country so we start off with an advantage but we should not in turn put people off by things such as the current cycle lane scheme and I can only express the hope that when the consultation process in respect of cycle lanes is analysed the public will be given a clear view to which the council must adhere.”

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OldRidgeback replied to eburtthebike | 3 years ago
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eburtthebike wrote:

While you didn't say which party he belonged to, it was 100:1 he was a tory, and so it proved.  It is quite clear that he hasn't got the first idea about transport, he just knows he hates cyclists, so will say and do anything to obstruct any possible benefit the council might be considering for them.

Not entirely controversy-free either "Huge row as Tory's motion about adult social care dubbed 'brain dead'.  https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/huge-row-torys-motio...

But he's definitely gammon, maybe past his prime, but his experience makes up for it.

He looks like a Doctor Who alien.

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ReCycling Dave | 3 years ago
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It's all a matter of perspective

He sees park benches I see somewhere to lock my bike up

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pasley69 replied to ReCycling Dave | 3 years ago
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What? You wouldn't lock your bike up to an "adult social care" initiative would you?

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0-0 | 3 years ago
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I always thought it was just my local council that were fucking useless/incompetent/stupid.
But it seems it's a Nationwide problem 😉

I wonder how much each bench costs? £5,000?

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pasley69 replied to 0-0 | 3 years ago
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Not to mention the graffiti clean-up and bi-annual paint job.

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Mungecrundle | 3 years ago
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A bench and somewhere to get a nice cup of tea are becoming higher priorities for Mrs Mungecrundle and I when we think about going for a walk. However seeing them as mutually exclusive choices for active travel is really pushing the anti cycling boundaries of gammonkind to new horizons.

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wtjs | 3 years ago
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We can safely write off this bloke as an entitled twit.

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HoarseMann | 3 years ago
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I think Sir Ron is overestimating his initiative and forward thinking prowess. A true visionary would have conceived something more akin to this...

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Hirsute | 3 years ago
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4 legs good, 2 legs bad.

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Wales56 | 3 years ago
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Both!

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Sriracha | 3 years ago
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The fact that people habituated to inactive travel should need a few sit-downs on the way to a bus stop points towards the need for a more active population.

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Velo-drone replied to Sriracha | 3 years ago
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He's clearly speaking on behalf of his elderly constituents, who presumably form a large part of his vote base.

Quite how seats and cycle lanes are supposed to be mutually exclusive, who knows.

Possibly also a sop to the grumpier oldies ...

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Ltpessimist replied to Velo-drone | 3 years ago
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Velo-drone wrote:

He's clearly speaking on behalf of his elderly constituents, who presumably form a large part of his vote base. Quite how seats and cycle lanes are supposed to be mutually exclusive, who knows. Possibly also a sop to the grumpier oldies ...

My Mum is in her 70's but she cycles at least 3 times a week. Also seats are always good if u need to stop have a drink.

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OldRidgeback replied to Ltpessimist | 3 years ago
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One of the guys I race BMX bikes with is in his mid 70s

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pasley69 replied to Sriracha | 3 years ago
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Benches make an excellent place to stop while repairing a puncture though,

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hawkinspeter replied to pasley69 | 3 years ago
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Pasley69 wrote:

Benches make an excellent place to stop while repairing a puncture though,

Good point. Let's have cycle lanes with nearby benches along with some public bike maintenance equipment every mile or so.

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ktache | 3 years ago
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Why can't they have both benches and cycle routes?

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hawkinspeter replied to ktache | 3 years ago
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ktache wrote:

Why can't they have both benches and cycle routes?

Is it because the benches don't take any perceived space away from the motorists? They don't mind cycle routes going elsewhere, but if they have to make even the slightest change in their behaviour to possibly make a difference to our planet becoming unliveable then it causes them huge concern and distress.

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Sriracha replied to hawkinspeter | 3 years ago
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I think you've nailed it there - let's start installing benches in High Street parking bays, so that peds can park their posteriors.

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ktache replied to Sriracha | 3 years ago
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Or use them as well as the planters for filtered permeability on LTNs?

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HarrogateSpa | 3 years ago
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Grrr, grrr, outrage, outrage. Is that the desired effect of this article?

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mdavidford replied to HarrogateSpa | 3 years ago
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HarrogateSpa wrote:

Grrr, grrr, outrage, outrage. Is that the desired effect of this article?

I think that was the desired effect of Cllr Watson's comments.

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