Remember last year’s Giro d’Italia? Rampaging rains, loose dogs, loose chains, a bout of Covid in the peloton, and obviously, those enthralling last two stages, with a penultimate-day maglia rosa-deciding time trial and a spectacular Cav sprint win through the streets of Rome on the final stage.
Mark Cavendish wins stage 21 of the 2023 Giro d’Italia (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
All this seems ages ago, but a viewing of Amazon Prime Video’s documentary throwing a spotlight on the insides of arguably the strongest team cycling has ever seen, Jumbo Visma (now Visma Lease-a-Bike; guess we can just use Visma), brings back the memories just like it was yesterday.
The second season of All-In (not very original, considering Prime has football show called All or Nothing), obviously focuses on the Grand Tour sweeping season of the Dutch team and is aptly titled The Trilogy. And to go toe-to-toe against its competitor Netflix’s own cycling show, Tour de France Unchained, the show needed some drama, whether organic or manufactured. And drama it did get at last year’s Giro.
At stage 5, with the torrential rain lashing down upon Italy, Primož Roglič, Visma’s leader for the Grand Tour, went down. And at that moment, or at least according to the show’s narrative, Remco Evenepoel and the Quick-Step team take position at the front of the peloton and start pacing everyone else, leading to some not-very kind words from Marc Reef, Visma’s sports director: “Goddamn, what a*******, ” he says (based on a very liberal translation). “Well, this is sporting. It’s not necessary at all.”
> Chaos! Rain-soaked Giro d'Italia stage five marred by crashes as Evenepoel, Cavendish, Roglič, Leknessund, Groves, all go down
And then later, when Evenepoel went down himself for a second time (the first time was, bizarrely, after a stray dog ran across the peloton), Reef comments: “This is just, really, really karma!”
Oooh, spicy stuff! I would’ve liked to hear Reef’s thoughts when Evenepoel eventually left the race, after being diagnosed with Covid.
And to add to your dismay, no, we also do not get the team conversation regarding their Vuelta a España leader, between Sepp Kuss, Jonas Vingegaard and Primož Roglič. Almost like these shows are tailored and strictly filmed and edited with the team’s consent!
Now, off to waiting for Netflix’s second season of its Tour de France documentary, so I can come back you you all and complain about why this modern trend of sort-of Americanised sports documentaries, while sometimes entertaining, are a complete farcical show and not worth anyone’s time! *throws grenade and rushes back*
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"I wish that he would get raped" is a pretty unhinged take as punishment for a traffic crime.
A driving ban is exactly the right punishment for this.
Now now, don't be so woke. Male rape is fine to joke about, it's just #bants
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@Dogless - I think they surgically remove the traditional and sarcastic British sense of humour at birth nowadays.
See also: "Schrödinger's asshole" - The comment is both a joke and a serious point until the poster sees whether or not people agree with them.
The other thing with wokes is that they are always 'right' and have no room for people with other views.
If you have to have it explained to you whether people getting raped is funny I don't think it comes down to woke vs not woke or right vs wrong. Its just shit human being vs common decency.
You have to get pretty fucking far into insane right wing lunatic territory before you hit "rape is hilarious". Even tory party donors don't usually get away with that one and they are allowed to be openly racist and sexist now.
They also seem to like to swear a lot and go off on a rant when challanged. You're starting to show your true colours now.
What I always find weird about people like you is that you think making jokes about rape is fair game and people who don't find it funny are 'woke' and somehow missing the 'classic British humour', but as soon as someone swears you can't deal with it. As if swearing somehow detracts from ones fucking argument, rather than being a way of expressing oneself and adding humour to something without needing to single out a marginalised group of people to be the butt of the joke.
It's pretty primitive way of adding "humour", and it did detract from your argument.
I was using it to make a point. There's this confusion among certain groups of people that 'no one is allowed to say anything anymore lest people get offended'. Offensive comedy is fine, most people can tolerate swearing and irony without clutching their pearls in terror. What isn't funny anymore (if it ever was) is comedy that uses a marginalised group's mere existence or the minimising of serious issues as the punchline.
There are plenty of highly offensive comedians (Stewart Lee and Frankie Boyle are pretty popular afaik) out there, yet none of them need to punch down and - in my experience - most of them use swearing to punctuate.
By contrast, the key to demonstrating how open and tolerant you are to the viewpoints of others is to prejudge them all with the ideology you ascribe to them. It really is how true openmindedness works.
What on earth do you think 'woke' even means?
I've got nothing against bad taste jokes, but what you wrote wasn't really a good attempt at humour (e.g. a pun, wordplay or reversal of expectations etc) but merely a reference to rape in prisons. Usually, joking about rape isn't in the best taste, but at least try to make it into a joke rather than just an endorsement of prison rape. Maybe you think the topic is funny enough that you just have to refer to it and people will roll about laughing?
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