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"Woke" you send me to sleep.

Hi Rakia, rather than trying to get attention on cycling forums, you may find some of the following groups helpful:

https://mensgroup.com/community

http://menupnorth.co.uk/

https://www.directionsformen.org.uk/

There are often more local groups too.  I'm sure you would be able to find a sympathetic person to sit down with and talk to for a while; developing genuine personal relationships will be much better in the long term for your mental health, rather than trolling on the internet for the short term feeling that someone, anyone has at least acknowledged your existence.

I appreciate that reaching out like this will feel like a big challenge but I am sure it will be worth your while.

Best wishes

Funny that you've put your definition in quotes as if it comes from some authoritative source, but a quick Google search reveals no such quote in existence. When your argument is so weak that you can't find a decent quote to back it up and have to make one up it's time to have a word with yourself.

By the way saying that woke includes "pretending you're autistic" is utterly reprehensible.

Rendel Harris wrote:

Funny that you've put your definition in quotes as if it comes from some authoritative source, but a quick Google search reveals no such quote in existence. When your argument is so weak that you can't find a decent quote to back it up and have to make one up it's time to have a word with yourself.

By the way saying that woke includes "pretending you're autistic" is utterly reprehensible.

I used quotes to delineate the definition from the rest of the comment. It's my own freshly-minted definition, and it's very flattering to hear that you thought it came from a real dictionary it was so good!

On your point about autism, that's just my experience. I'm not talking about people with genuine autism, but you find plenty of wokists who aren't otherwise part of a "marginalised" group, and so don't have a crutch of victimisation to use. They therefore feign autism (this is never actually diagnosed by a medical professional) as a reason why they "are different". Although they prefer (naturally) to use the phrase "neuro-diverse" as it sounds more mystical and less backward.

Rakia wrote:

I used quotes to delineate the definition from the rest of the comment. It's my own freshly-minted definition, and it's very flattering to hear that you thought it came from a real dictionary it was so good!

No, I thought it was semi-literate bollocks. That's why I Googled it, I was fascinated to see who could have come out with such utter nonsense.

On the flip side there are people like yourself who love to spin "woke" into some all encompassing catch all, basically to excuse the fact that you are just a shitty person who lacks any kind of empathy. 

The funny thing is, of course there are people on the extreme, getting offended over nothing for attention. Yet here you are being an edgelord for attention, much in the same way they do, just from the other side taking pride in being an arsehole.

I mean, you actually stated: "using "woke" to describe the bike eyesores is perfectly apt" *rolls eyes*

At the very worse they are like much of the counrtries cycle infrastructure and poorly planned. I mean I seriously question the person who slapped one across two spaces and thought job done, but woke? PMSL!

You're a Jordan Peterson acolyte aren't you, you must be to come up with this absolute BS. 
Anyway, C U Next Tuesday at the local cycle cross mash up?

xcleigh1247 wrote:

You're a Jordan Peterson acolyte aren't you, you must be to come up with this absolute BS. 

Good deduction, he absolutely is, under at least two of his previous identities he used regularly to eulogise him and furnish us with snippets of his "wisdom".

Rakia wrote:

The real definition of "woke" is the following:

"A term used for white middle class people who superficially show an interest in social justice in order to capture the moral high ground (and the business and social opportunities that arise from it), while continuing to remain ignorant of any real social issues or the irrationality of their view points.

...

using "woke" to describe the bike eyesores is perfectly apt:

This is really rather humorous (I typed hilarious but then decided it wasn't quite that good).

Rakia/Nigel/whoever - he/she/they/it/ - may be morphing into a bit of a self-parodying comedian. Or has the AI moved on to learning from slightly cleverer sources?

The bike hanger is no more of an eyesore than an SUV, trailer or a shed; and as it is an inanimate object it can't possibly be 'woke'.

eburtthebike wrote:

Ellie Reid and Laura King from Brighton?  Hmmmm. 

They are from the Department of Studies at the University of Fulchester.

Maybe I'm reading the article wrong but isnt Ellie of Brighton simply saying the Green council is "woke" not the bike hangers. Though I'm not sure how the Sun have ended up claiming the scheme itself is "woke", maybe it was the intern who writ it, but the quote theyve used doesnt say that.

Awavey wrote:

Maybe I'm reading the article wrong but isnt Ellie of Brighton simply saying the Green council is "woke" not the bike hangers. Though I'm not sure how the Sun have ended up claiming the scheme itself is "woke", maybe it was the intern who writ it, but the quote theyve used doesnt say that.

Yes, but the inference is there. If they reported on the council making changes to bin collections, they'd be unlikely to mention that they are 'woke'.

This is a local skip, for local people.  There's nothing for you here.

Presumably some of these folk would be concerned their rubbish wasn't being collected by ... local people?

Anyone who uses the term "woke" pejoratively is implying that they know full well there is social injustice in the world, but they don't care because it suits them nicely thank you very much.

But I think cycling is "woke":

• On a global scale, climate change is expected to affect the poorest people the most.
• On a local scale, air pollution most strongly affects people in lower income areas (and people of colour, which is correlated).
• The households with lowest income are also least likely to own cars and likely to drive the lowest distance.
• Cycling is, on average, far cheaper than driving.
• The household with the lowest income are most likely to live in overcrowded spaces, in rented accommodation, in flats, and in properties without outside space (and therefore have least opportunity of storing bikes in their own property). 
• Cycling is credited with aiding the emancipation of women, but today women are less likely to cycle than men, which is part of a broader pattern of transport planning focusing on "the commuter" rather than more diverse transport requirement.

So cycling - and providing infrastructure to help other people cycle - seems to me to clearly fight social injustice. 

OnYerBike wrote:

Anyone who uses the term "woke" pejoratively is implying that they know full well there is social injustice in the world, but they don't care because it suits them nicely thank you very much.

But I think cycling is "woke":

• On a global scale, climate change is expected to affect the poorest people the most.
• On a local scale, air pollution most strongly affects people in lower income areas (and people of colour, which is correlated).
• The households with lowest income are also least likely to own cars and likely to drive the lowest distance.
• Cycling is, on average, far cheaper than driving.
• The household with the lowest income are most likely to live in overcrowded spaces, in rented accommodation, in flats, and in properties without outside space (and therefore have least opportunity of storing bikes in their own property). 
• Cycling is credited with aiding the emancipation of women, but today women are less likely to cycle than men, which is part of a broader pattern of transport planning focusing on "the commuter" rather than more diverse transport requirement.

So cycling - and providing infrastructure to help other people cycle - seems to me to clearly fight social injustice. 

Yes, cycling is definitely empowering. There's no need to get any permission from authorities before jumping on a bike, so it's anti-authoritarian as well.

I do think the term 'woke' is being over-used - there's the right-wing that idiotically use it as a perjorative and it's cringey if people/companies describe themselves as 'woke'.

This also struck me as a bizarre objection: "These hangars are a cynical ploy to raise more cash for council coffers."

Cash from whom? Motorists? Ummm, no. Local residents who own bikes, and are happy to pay around £1 a week for somewhere safe to store them.

The council told us a couple of weeks ago that 359 of the current 360 spaces are taken - and there is reportedly also a waiting list running well into three figures.

Simon_MacMichael wrote:

This also struck me as a bizarre objection: "These hangars are a cynical ploy to raise more cash for council coffers."

Cash from whom? Motorists? Ummm, no. Local residents who own bikes, and are happy to pay around £1 a week for somewhere safe to store them.

The council told us a couple of weeks ago that 359 of the current 360 spaces are taken - and there is reportedly also a waiting list running well into three figures.

I think they're complaining that the poor, hard-working, cash-strapped motorists have had one of their own parking spaces re-purposed just so that the council can make a nice little earner.

Simon_MacMichael wrote:

This also struck me as a bizarre objection: "These hangars are a cynical ploy to raise more cash for council coffers."

Cash from whom? Motorists? Ummm, no. Local residents who own bikes, and are happy to pay around £1 a week for somewhere safe to store them.

I don't think councils make any profit from hangars anyway, do they? Certainly in London all the schemes I've looked at have been run by private companies (in Southwark it's Cyclehoop), sometimes with a small subsidy per space provided by the council. 

Colin from Portsmouth can help with understanding woke.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Exploding_Heads/status/1590029685307899904

(sorry if you don't have a login)

hirsute wrote:

Colin from Portsmouth can help with understanding woke.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Exploding_Heads/status/1590029685307899904

(sorry if you don't have a login)

Unfortunately I do have a login, but it's just a work bot account for alerting about servers.

hawkinspeter wrote:

Woke hangars?

I can totally see how storing your bike in a semi-secure location is hitting back at systemic racism

If you're a right-wing journalist then Woke can be used to describe pretty much anything you disapprove of. It's the modern day Political Corectness Gone Mad.

Tom_77 wrote:

If you're a right-wing journalist then Woke can be used to describe pretty much anything you disapprove of. It's the modern day Political Corectness Gone Mad.

It's so difficult to keep up with what language is acceptable now, isn't it?

Steve K wrote:

Tom_77 wrote:

If you're a right-wing journalist then Woke can be used to describe pretty much anything you disapprove of. It's the modern day Political Corectness Gone Mad.

It's so difficult to keep up with what language is acceptable now, isn't it?

Nah, bolox mate, it's fu**ing easy init.

Are those gun ports?

No, it's for efficiency at the drive thru - so you can load Big Macs for everyone in the cab all at once.

Beatnik69 wrote:

Are those gun ports?

No.  One for each of the driver's eyes.

So there was a recent story about a footballer being issued with a FPN for the front windows of his car not transmitting enough light. Assuming that wasn't based on envy/ racism, I assume that the owner of this vehicle will be treated similarly?

For clarity I am not defending Ivan Toney's dangerous mdifications to his car, but you don't have to spend much time in affluent areas of London to see fully murdered out cars with no action being taken by the Police.