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“We’re just numbers, pawns at Ineos,” says Pavel Sivakov after Vuelta snub; Government finally trials bolt down barriers on car and bin-filled cycle lane; U23 Paris-Roubaix winner in coma after “hitting back of car hard” + more on the live blog

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24 August 2023, 10:17
Cycle lane parking in Belfast (credit - Dominic Bryan, Twitter)
“It’s such an obvious solution but now they are only considering it”: Government decides to – finally – trial new bolt down barriers on cycle lane littered for years with parked cars and bins

‘Eureka!’ came the cry, I imagine, from Northern Ireland’s Department for Infrastructure, when one of its number stumbled upon a fantastical, earth-shattering solution to the longstanding issue of one of Belfast’s few ‘protected’ cycle lanes being almost constantly blocked by parked cars.

‘We could use barrier and bollards that are actually, you know, bolt into the ground and which can’t just simply be driven over. We’re geniuses! How has nobody ever thought of this before?’

Well, I assume that’s how the department’s decision to trail new bolt down cycle lane bollards on Belfast’s Hardcastle Street transpired, anyway.

The seemingly ‘protected’ bike lane on Hardcastle Street, as many of you will know, has long been a favourite on the live blog. A key route for cyclists into the city centre, it is often jampacked with parked cars and vans – sometimes parked diagonally right across the lane – as well as bins from local businesses.

Belfast cycle lane parked car (Twitter, North Belfast Cycle Campaign)

Back in February, Sustrans described the situation on Hardcastle Street as “disgraceful – every single day, no action”.

“This is one of Belfast's ONLY ‘separated’ cycle lanes,” the North Belfast Cycle Campaign also noted. “This is the ONLY safe route across town. How is this acceptable?”

> “This is the reality of cycling in Belfast”: Cyclists blast ‘protected’ bike lane packed with parked cars and bins

But never fear, because after just the many, many, many years of frustration from cyclists at the maddening levels of bike lane parking, the glacial pace of decision making in Northern Ireland has finally led to the Department for Infrastructure deciding to replace the flimsy plastic bollards currently in place on Hardcastle Street with new “bolt down” barriers.

A DfI spokesperson told Belfast Live: “The Department recognises the frustration caused by inconsiderate parking on cycle lanes across the city. While the legislative process to make the pop-up cycle permanent is ongoing, in the interim the Department now intends to trial new bolt down barriers which will make the cycle lanes inaccessible to cars.

“These will be installed as soon as possible. We would encourage road users to respect everyone’s journey and think before you park.”

The admittedly belated decision follows a meeting of Northern Ireland’s All Party Cycling Group, held to outline the group’s vision for a “better cycling future”. The meeting came just days after councillors in Belfast launched a scathing attack on Northern Ireland’s Stormont government and what they describe as its “joke” approach to cycling infrastructure.

> “If they can’t build cycle lanes, devolve bloody powers to us and we’ll do it”: Belfast Council slams Northern Ireland government’s “joke” delivery of cycling infrastructure – as just 2.8km of bike lanes installed in two years

At the All Party Cycling Group meeting, call were made for the DfI “to step up and build infrastructure and maintain the paltry infrastructure that does exist” to make active travel safer and more accessible, while Cycling UK emphasised the business case for installing more cycle lanes.

Cycling UK’s Andrew McClean also proposed painting double yellow lines on cycle lanes in a bid to stop motorists from parking in them.

“The DfI said that’s not a bad idea... it’s such an obvious solution but now they are only considering it,” he said, before adding that the group agreed that “one of the most important things we can do is enforce existing laws”.

24 August 2023, 08:07
Pavel Sivakov, 2023 Giro d’Italia (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
“We’re just numbers, pawns at Ineos,” says Pavel Sivakov after Vuelta snub

It turns out it isn’t just Luke Rowe who’s slightly miffed at being left out of the Ineos Grenadiers line-up for the upcoming Vuelta a España, which gets underway on Saturday with a team time trial around the streets of Barcelona.

> “I’ve gone all in for this Vuelta, and I didn’t make the cut”: Luke Rowe “pretty f***ing gutted” to miss out on Vuelta selection

Speaking to L'Équipe after finishing 56th in yesterday’s super short 2.3km prologue TT at the Tour of Germany, Rowe’s teammate Pavel Sivakov said that missing out on the Spanish grand tour was a “big blow”, especially after spending almost two months at altitude this summer preparing for the race, along with a further four weeks training and racing with what he assumed was the Vuelta squad.

The 26-year-old announced at the beginning of the month that, after six years with the British squad, he will be leaving to join UAE Team Emirates for 2024, one of a number of big-name riders heading out the Ineos exit door this winter, including Tao Geoghegan Hart, Ben Tulett, and Dani Martinez, while the future of promising Spaniard Carlos Rodríguez hangs in the balance.

Meanwhile, rumours continue to persist concerning a merger between the team and Soudal-Quick Step, a momentous move that, if true, would see Remco Evenepoel spearhead the new squad’s GC challenge at the grand tours, and help revitalise an outfit that has been in transition mode for a few seasons now after the heady successes of the 2010s.

Pavel Sivakov, 2023 Giro d’Italia (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

(Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

It’s perhaps fair to say that, despite GC wins at the Tour of Poland, Tour of the Alps, and the Vuelta a Burgos, the departing Sivakov hasn’t quite lived up to the admittedly lofty expectations placed upon him since turning pro with the then-Team Sky in 2019.

And this month’s Vuelta snub has only underlined, in his eyes, his status as just a “pawn” in the Ineos game.

“We will say that I had a big blow last week,” he told L'Équipe yesterday. “I was told that I was not going to do the Vuelta, it was really difficult. I spent a month and a half at altitude this summer and three weeks with the Vuelta squad. We then all went together to the Tour of Poland. It went well, very well indeed.

“Afterwards, I went straight back to altitude to prepare this Vuelta. I think I was in the best condition of my season, in my opinion I was even better than before the Giro, and then there you go...

“I got a phone call telling me it wasn’t going to happen. It was complicated. I’ve been on the team for six years, everyone knows I'm leaving, but that’s cycling.

“We’re just numbers, pawns. That’s kind of how I see it. It makes us realise that the ‘management’ sometimes has to make difficult decisions. I was shot at the time, but I have since pulled myself together. I want to take advantage of all the work that has been done this summer by trying to do something by the end of the season.”

24 August 2023, 15:36
When you get to that point during Paris-Brest-Paris when you start questioning your life choices

To be fair, that’s me on most Thursday afternoons if I’m honest…

24 August 2023, 15:05
Teenage sensation Josh Tarling storms to time trial win at Renewi Tour, becoming joint youngest ever winner of a WorldTour race

Glancing at the race calendar, you’d have been forgiven for thinking the old and always interesting Tour of the Benelux – formerly the Eneco Tour, and then the BinckBank Tour – had been consigned to the dustbin of forgotten bike races.

But nope, the race is still going strong in 2023, just now in its 115th different guise as the Renewi Tour (so much for brand identity, eh?). To add to the confusion, its famous ‘golden kilometre’ of frantic bonus seconds has even been replaced by a ‘green kilometre’, to reflect the new sponsor’s waste management business. Hopefully the riders don’t mistake the new green kilometre for the litter zone, anyway…

While the race itself has a new name and identity, what hasn’t changed is the staggering success of British teenage sensation Josh Tarling’s debut season in the pro ranks.

The 19-year-old Ineos Grenadiers time trial specialist has only finished outside the top three once in his five solo efforts against the clock this year, securing a British national title and a bronze medal behind Remco Evenepoel and Filippo Ganna at the world championships along the way.

And today, over a 13.6km circuit in Sluis, Tarling stormed to his first career WorldTour victory, beating two-time Benelux Tour champion Tim Wellens by 14 seconds and Tour de France prologue winner Yves Lampaert by 18, taking the leader’s jersey in the process.

Tarling’s win also means – according to GCN’s resident statistician Cillian Kelly – he’s now the joint youngest rider to take a victory in cycling’s top tier, tied with (who else?) Remco Evenepoel, who was also 19 years, six months, and nine days old when he soloed to the win at Clásica San Sebastián in 2019.

Now, that’s not a bad record at all to share. And, considering what Remco has since gone on to achieve on both the road and TT bike, could we once again be staring, blinking, at the beginning of a new Cancellara or Martin-esque time trialling dynasty?

24 August 2023, 14:55
Ride your bike… to the Formula One race

Only in the Netherlands… (though how cool would this be at Silverstone? Or anywhere, really?)

24 August 2023, 14:28
Wout van Aert, 2023 world road race championships, Glasgow (Thomas Maheux/SWpix.com)
Wout van Dirt: Jumbo-Visma star heads to the loose stuff ahead of gravel worlds

While Mathieu van der Poel’s sensational 2023 – crash at the mountain bike worlds notwithstanding – has cemented the Dutchman’s status as the multidisciplinary king of cycling, his old ‘cross and road shadow Wout van Aert is ready to do his own bit of branching out, swapping the mud and the cobbles for some loose dirt at this weekend’s UCI Gravel World Series event in Houffalize.

The Jumbo-Visma star will line up alongside the likes of retired roadies Niki Terpstra, Johnny Hoogerland, and Jan Bakelants at the start of the 110km race, which will kick off at the foot of the Côte de Saint Roch, one of the emblematic climbs of Liège-Bastogne-Liège, as he builds towards October’s world gravel champs in the Veneto region of Italy.

At last year’s inaugural UCI world gravel championships, Van der Poel finished third, behind Alpecin–Deceuninck teammate Gianni Vermeersch. After their electric battles for the cyclocross and road rainbow jerseys this year, could we be set for another MVDP v WVA showdown for a world title in October.

Also, the way things are going, all we need is Tom Pidcock to take to the gravel and Van Aert to pull the mountain bike out of the shed, and the multi-discipline takeover of cycling will be complete.

> The rise of the cycling multi-disciplinarian

Meanwhile, somewhere in the Netherlands, Marianne Vos – fresh from winning a UCI gravel round in Sweden at the weekend – laughs while staring at all her road, ‘cross, mountain bike, gravel, and track trophies and jerseys…

24 August 2023, 14:04
“This is a good step to make Scotland’s roads safer for cyclists”: Cycling UK welcomes new guidance which will see drivers receive tougher sentences for killing cyclists, including more serious penalties for aggressive driving like tailgating
24 August 2023, 13:29
2023 Dauphine Fred Wright Merida Reacto - 1.jpeg
Merida reports double-digit drop in profit for first half of 2023, as sales also fall

Figures released by bike manufacturer Merida this week will do little to quell the sense of doom and gloom surrounding the cycling industry in 2023, as the Taiwan-based company announced that their profit for the first half of the year has fallen by 38.8 percent to €38.30 million.

According to the Taiwan Stock Exchange, sales are also down 6.6 percent to €453.02 million, compared to the first six months of 2022, Bike Europe reports. A statement on Merida’s website, however, refers to sales of €451.71 million, which would mean a drop of 6.72 percent.

> Shimano bike component sales fall by 18% as company cites “weak” demand for products

While Merida did not give any reason for the significant decline in profit and revenue, it is clear that the company – which supplies bikes for the WorldTour Bahrain Victorious team – is facing the same industry-wide pressures and price reductions currently reverberating throughout the cycling market, as well as dealing with high inventory levels.

24 August 2023, 12:47
Oh, RadioCycling, you big tease

I have to admit, the first line of that post had me there for a second…

What next? Sir Jim and Big Pat sitting down in the hotel restaurant, thrashing out a merger over a nice glass of Rioja and some tapas?  

24 August 2023, 12:21
After 4,000km and four weeks on the bike, “real hero” Han Lu reaches Thessaloniki, the last rider to finish this year’s Transcontinental race

It’s one thing smashing these ultra-distance events in super-quick time, breaking records in the process; it’s quite another thing to continue slogging away at it, riding your bike for weeks, just to make it to the end.

But that’s what British cyclist Han Lu has done, reaching the finish of this year’s Transcontinental race at the Greek port of Thessaloniki late last night, almost exactly a month since she set off from Geraardsbergen on her 4,000km journey across Europe, and over three weeks since Christoph Strasser finished first for the second consecutive year.

> Potholes, road rash, stray dogs, bee stings, cracked rim... Transcontinental suffering

The 49-year-old, who was born in Vietnam and grew up in the UK, was one of the recipients of this year’s Mike Hall Bursary, a scheme set up to help riders from low-income families participate in the Transcon.

At her first ever cycling event a few years ago, RideLondon, she “rode like mad just to stay warm” through a storm, catching the cycling and ultra-distance bug in the process.

“I met a TCR rider last year and became obsessed with the idea of the Race,” she said before setting off last month. “It will be a big push for me, because I have always wanted to go out bike touring but I don’t have the confidence to go by myself. This way, I have no choice.”

Celebrating her lanterne rouge finish last night, the Transcon organisers said: “Dot-watchers and the Lost Dot team will rest easy tonight knowing that the last rider on the road has completed their journey. We imagine Han will, too.

“We congratulate all riders who have completed TCRNo9 since the GC cut-off, and we congratulate Han on her resilience and determination to finish this Race, exemplifying true Race spirit.”

And, if I may be so bold, she also exemplified what riding your bike is all about. Chapeau.

24 August 2023, 11:52
How fast? American ultra-cyclist Nick DeHaan breaks modern record for Paris-Brest-Paris, averaging over 29kph on the 1,219km route

Now, that’s pretty quick. DeHaan completed all 1,219km of the legendary Paris-Brest-Paris, the largest and most famous audax event in the world, in just 41 hours and 46 and a half minutes, carrying on as the lead group stopped for a break with 600km (as you do) to reach the finish line in Rambouillet first, 50 minutes clear of the rest. Apparently, the American newcomer was barely able to stand up as he posed for photos. No wonder.

 

Some may argue that finishing first and breaking records goes against the central ethos of audax and randonneuring events like PBP, but it’s still an impressive feat of bike riding nonetheless.

> The very long road to Paris — just getting to the start line of the legendary Paris–Brest–Paris bike ride is a journey in itself

24 August 2023, 11:27
Driver caught speeding past child cyclist at an “eye-watering” 61mph in a 30mph zone outside school

Devon and Cornwall’s roads policing team have confirmed that the driver will be prosecuted, while adding that they also identified 280 – 280! – other instances of motorists speeding or using phones while driving in the space of just one hour, during a recent crackdown on motoring offences during rush hour.

Driver speeding past child cyclist (Devon and Cornwall Roads Policing Team)

> Driver caught speeding past child cyclist at an “eye-watering” 61mph in a 30mph zone outside school 

24 August 2023, 10:57
“A middle-aged bloke in Lycra is definitely up to something nefarious”: Police on the hunt for cyclist who allegedly scratched 20 cars on same road during five-year spell

Over in Australia – a place where simply riding your bike is “overwhelmingly fear inducing”, according to Lidl-Trek pro Brodie Chapman, thanks to “abusive and volatile” motorists – police are on the hunt for a cyclist who has allegedly scratched 20 cars parked on the same road over a five-year period.

That’s commitment, I suppose.

Police in North Brisbane have said that they are investigating 20 separate wilful damage reports and are encouraging “any other motorists who believe their car may have been targeted” on Sylvan Road to come forward.

They’ve also released an image of a cyclist who is “regularly in the area” who “may be able to assist with ongoing investigations”.

Over on the social media platform formerly known as Twitter, some weren’t impressed with this apparently urgent use of the police’s resources, while others criticised the handling of the whole thing.

“Guilty until proven guilty in good old Australia,” one wrote, while another said: “It was him for sure. A middle-aged bloke in Lycra is definitely up to something nefarious.”

Meanwhile, Fred appears to have got to the bottom of why some cars are being targeted on Sylvan Road: “You should actually enforce the no parking during certain times that exists on this street, then maybe people wouldn't take it into their own hands, just saying…”

24 August 2023, 09:47
Tour de l’Avenir stage moved forward by two hours due to extreme heat

Extreme weather conditions are continuing to plague bike races in Europe this summer, with the organisers of the Tour de l’Avenir – the de facto U23 version of the Tour de France – deciding to move today’s 141km stage from La Tour-de-Salvagny to Lac d’Aiguebelette forward by two hours in a bid to counteract the horrendously high temperatures plaguing central France and the Alps this week.

As a result, the riders were treated to a 10.30am start (a nice throwback to their junior days, no doubt) – though I reckon the big lake at the finish could still prove tempting to some, anyway.

Yesterday’s stage also fell victim to the extreme heat, as the organisers removed one of the two finishing loops around Evaux-les-Bains – cutting the distance by 16km – after temperatures reached 37.5 degrees in the town.

And, to think, the Vuelta is starting this weekend too. I’m sure some weather apps will be working overtime in the next few days…

24 August 2023, 09:19
Encouraging active travel and cleaner air – surely that’s a good thing? Right?
Brompton ULEZ advert

Start your Thursday morning right (or angry, maybe) by mulling over Simon’s thoughts on all things ULEZ, bike promotions, and the misinformation wars…

> Bike brands bank on ULEZ expansion – but will enlarged clean air zone boost active travel?

24 August 2023, 08:45
U23 Paris-Roubaix winner Tijl De Decker in coma after “hitting back of a car hard” during training

Some worrying news from Belgium last night, as this year’s winner of Paris-Roubaix Espoirs, the U23 version of the Hell of the North, Tijl De Decker, was involved in a serious collision involving a motorist yesterday and is currently in a coma.

According to Het Nieuwsblad and Sporza, the 22-year-old, who is set to turn pro with Lotto Dstny in 2024 after racing for the Belgian squad’s development team this year, “crashed hard into the back of a car” while on a training ride, losing a lot of blood.

He was rushed to hospital in Lier where he underwent surgery, before being transferred to Antwerp University Hospital (UZA). He remains in a coma.

“The accident took place on a public road, outside the centre,” a spokesperson for Lier police said. “The cyclist was seriously injured and taken to hospital. It remains to be seen how his condition evolves. A traffic expert from the public prosecutor’s office has arrived on site, and an investigation is underway into the exact circumstances. I can confirm that a passenger car was involved in the accident.”

Lotto Dstny last night confirmed the news, writing on social media: “Tijl De Decker was involved in a crash today. He was brought to a local hospital where he underwent surgery. Later today he was transported to the UZA. More news about the consequences of the crash will follow after further examinations. Our thoughts and prayers are with Tijl.”

The young Belgian has enjoyed a fine 2023 with Lotto’s development squad, helping him secure his first professional contract with the senior team for next year. In March, he won a stage of the Tour of Taiwan, before taking a breakthrough win at the U23 Paris-Roubaix in May, just weeks after finishing second at the Rutland-Melton CiCLE Classic in Melton Mowbray. We wish him all the best.

De Decker’s horror crash comes just days after another up-and-coming star of the sport, 21-year-old British rider Thomas Gloag, was injured after being struck by a driver while out on a training ride.

The Jumbo-Visma prospect suffered a knee injury in the collision, which required surgery, ruling him out for the rest of the season.

After obtaining a PhD, lecturing, and hosting a history podcast at Queen’s University Belfast, Ryan joined road.cc in December 2021 and since then has kept the site’s readers and listeners informed and enthralled (well at least occasionally) on news, the live blog, and the road.cc Podcast. After boarding a wrong bus at the world championships and ruining a good pair of jeans at the cyclocross, he now serves as road.cc’s senior news writer. Before his foray into cycling journalism, he wallowed in the equally pitiless world of academia, where he wrote a book about Victorian politics and droned on about cycling and bikes to classes of bored students (while taking every chance he could get to talk about cycling in print or on the radio). He can be found riding his bike very slowly around the narrow, scenic country lanes of Co. Down.

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RDaneel replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 1 year ago
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Jeremy Corbyn for PM wrote:

What a joke. Mods are disgraceful bunch and utterly corrupt. Just like the Labour party. 

When do you go Rendel? Mr high-and-mighty lead road.cc commentator?

This wishy washy rule business and inconsistent ban hammer is ridiculous and needs to be called out. 

Well Jezza, not sure you realised this but Old knobber was a PBU, you don't think PBU's should be re-banned? 

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 1 year ago
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As you are quite a new poster* can you tell me what is inconsistent ban hammering? Someone who has been on the site under multiple guises and banned for racist content under a few of them, and who the mods state is not welcome is banned again. 

So tell me why he shouldn't be banned?

*Or do you want to tell us why you were banned last time and why it was inconsistent?

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Left_is_for_Losers replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

As you are quite a new poster* can you tell me what is inconsistent ban hammering? Someone who has been on the site under multiple guises and banned for racist content under a few of them, and who the mods state is not welcome is banned again. 

So tell me why he shouldn't be banned?

*Or do you want to tell us why you were banned last time and why it was inconsistent?

There are plenty of instances of comments which i believe to have been over the line that stay up. 

As I mentioned, don't report them as the road.cc inbox is not monitored. 

Perhaps you could enlighten me or the mods can on exactly why KYA was banned? 

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Left_is_for_Losers replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 1 year ago
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Jeremy Corbyn for PM wrote:

Perhaps you could enlighten me or the mods can on exactly why KYA was banned? 

So no-one actually knows why he was banned? 

Very typical it appears of road.cc - indiscriminate and corrupt

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perce replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 1 year ago
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My wife's gone and done it again - she put the washing out before we took the dogs a walk. I kept telling her it looked like rain but once again she wouldn't listen. She's a real risk taker, life is a rollercoaster living with her. Anyway it didn't rain. But it could have.

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Left_is_for_Losers replied to perce | 1 year ago
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perce wrote:

My wife's gone and done it again - she put the washing out before we took the dogs a walk. I kept telling her it looked like rain but once again she wouldn't listen. She's a real risk taker, life is a rollercoaster living with her. Anyway it didn't rain. But it could have.

To be fair, that is pretty perilous. Glad it didn't rain for you though

So to be clear, no-one knows why KYA was banned? Sounds about right for this hotbed of corruption. 

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perce replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 1 year ago
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Hotbed of corruption? Wasn't that Robert Fripps first band?  I think he lives in Pershore. Well his wife does anyway.

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chrisonabike replied to perce | 1 year ago
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"Hotbed of corruption" was actually an early mistranslated calque for "potpourri".  A "fragrant error" indeed...

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Clem Fandango replied to perce | 1 year ago
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Indeed he lives just down from Cafe Nerd.  You know, round the corner from where the death races start.

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 1 year ago
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Banned for being a previous banned user, one who was previously banned for both racisim and misogynisitc comments previously. So it might not have been something he has stated in this personna, just for being someone trying to circumvent an obvious previous banning.

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Hirsute replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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Shame the other wanker is still here and not banned for being a PBU.

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chrisonabike replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Hirsute wrote:

Shame the other wanker is still here and not banned for being a PBU.

Shame about them - if not just another persona of course.  They seemed to have been radicalised by boo/nige/.../kya.  Over a short period they noticeably changed and adopted a similar approach.  Including returning from beyond the block!

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to chrisonabike | 1 year ago
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If they are TIMY, (and looking at some of the comments to Ren about his personal circumstances, I can't see why not), I suppose being accused of being boo/nige/.../kya early on must have mentally effected the person into becoming just like them in the end. 

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Rendel Harris replied to chrisonabike | 1 year ago
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chrisonatrike wrote:

Hirsute wrote:

Shame the other wanker is still here and not banned for being a PBU.

Shame about them - if not just another persona of course.  They seemed to have been radicalised by boo/nige/.../kya.  Over a short period they noticeably changed and adopted a similar approach.  Including returning from beyond the block!

I think it was the unlamented Martin73 who really turned username to the bad, he was always a bit here for the fight (if I recall correctly, wasn't his first ever post as username about what a terrible left-wing Corbynista pro-EU mob we are?) but it was Martin who started the whole personal attacks business ("you live in your wife's flat, you're only online because she lets you use her laptop" etc - honestly!) and he then gleefully joined in along with Nigel and his many aliases. It's a shame because when he forgot about being a bully and actually talked about cycling he was clearly interested and had a contribution to make, unlike Martin who was solely here to explain to everybody why cycling was rubbish apart from a very him-specific commuter niche.

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Hirsute replied to Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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Wasn't  the first post but they did put

"You're all TROLLS
This is such a left wing Corbynista, anti-eu and anti-Johnson site
just can't stand you toffee nosed snobs"

And they got very upset when reminded of their post.

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Rendel Harris replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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That's the one! Always loved the anti-EU accusation in the middle.

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chrisonabike replied to Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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Rendel Harris wrote:

I think it was the unlamented Martin73 who really turned username to the bad, he was always a bit here for the fight[...]

Well I can't criticise those engaging in a bit of sarcasm and wind up without hypocrisy... I guess it's in the "how".  Now you mention it I believe you're correct on how this happened.

socraticyclist / martin73 seems to have espoused* a rather particular version of "vehicular cycling" (seem to be quite a few particularly argumentative types who hold this view).  Plus some beef with kids cycling (despite IIRC claiming to be a cycling trainer).  Their view seemed to be cycling should not be favoured in any way - rather the opposite.  For one most (normal) people don't do it (in the UK...).  After all it makes you sweaty!  They expressed contempt towards other cyclists - unskilled, undisciplined or weak (also shared with boo/nigel/KYA) compared to them.  Cycle campaigners were seen as spoilt children whining when the adults rightly pick them up on their selfish follies.

*  If they actually were exposing their personal view as opposed to just making argument.

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Rendel Harris replied to chrisonabike | 1 year ago
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Ah yes, Martin the (alleged) Bikeability trainer who said that cyclists should ride 99% of the time in the gutter because if drivers can't see you they won't hit you and that women don't want to cycle because they don't want oil on their Louboutins (sp?) or for their hair to end up looking like an explosion in the Decthalon aisle...althought that sort of idiocy was pretty amusing really, it was when he went on to start making up and regularly repeating false stories about other posters' (alright, mainly my) employment and lifestyles and, unforgiveably, making insulting remarks about their partners that he crossed the line, eagerly followed by Nigel and username.

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Argos74 replied to Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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Rendel Harris wrote:

followed by Nigel

If I remember right, it were Nigel who went off to ask his mother's opinion on something. And once you've opened the Yo Momma door, it ain't ever closed.

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perce replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 1 year ago
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Wishy Washy Rule were a very underrated band in my opinion. They should have won the Eurovision song contest but inexplicably Puppet on a String was chosen as our entry instead. I know we won but I still think their song was better.

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mark1a replied to perce | 1 year ago
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I think as a tribute act, "Inconsistent Ban Hammer" is worth looking up and going to see, his version of "Crockett's Theme" is superb.

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perce replied to mark1a | 1 year ago
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For some reason I was getting him mixed up with Jan Akkerman from seventies yodelling pop group Focus. In my opinion one of the finest yodelling pop groups ever.  

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Clem Fandango replied to perce | 1 year ago
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I'd forgotten all about Wishy Washy rule.  Didn't Carter USM sample their track "cyber bully" on Sherrif Fatman?

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Clem Fandango replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 1 year ago
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Ban Hammer won the Eurovision song contest back in '91 if I remember correctly.  Truly the first group to put scandinavian death metal on the Eurovision map.  Their lead singer,  Ahti Moshinen, was famous for consuming 30 Starbucks "Espressos" a day at the height of their fame (which came much later).

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perce replied to Clem Fandango | 1 year ago
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I once met him years ago in Costa. I pointed out to him that in my opinion Starbucks coffee was so much better, so I feel partly responsible for his later Starbucks addiction. He bought me a doughnut.

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Clem Fandango replied to perce | 1 year ago
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Did you get him to autograph it?

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perce replied to Clem Fandango | 1 year ago
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I only wish I had, it would be worth pounds now.

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kinderje replied to perce | 1 year ago
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Was he buying a lemon tart to go with his coffee?

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brooksby replied to kinderje | 1 year ago
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kinderje wrote:

Was he buying a lemon tart to go with his coffee?

Lemon Tart?  I think I was at college with her.

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Rendel Harris replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 1 year ago
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Jeremy Corbyn for PM wrote:

What a joke. Mods are disgraceful bunch and utterly corrupt. Just like the Labour party. 

When do you go Rendel? Mr high-and-mighty lead road.cc commentator?

Well, I can understand why it's a problem for you, given that you have been banned before. If you have instances where I've transgressed the site T&Cs as you did and KYA has in every one of his multiple personas to get banned, feel free to report them to info [at] road.cc and I'm sure they'll deal with it (contrary to the assertions of yourself and Nigel, I have no connections with, or influence over, this site other than being a subscriber; if I did you would have been re-banned as soon as you reappeared, for a start). Otherwise, as I said to you many times when you were thisismyusername, if you think this site is so awful and corrupt and biased, why do you keep coming back? Many other cycling websites are available.

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