It turns out it isn’t just Luke Rowe who’s slightly miffed at being left out of the Ineos Grenadiers line-up for the upcoming Vuelta a España, which gets underway on Saturday with a team time trial around the streets of Barcelona.
> “I’ve gone all in for this Vuelta, and I didn’t make the cut”: Luke Rowe “pretty f***ing gutted” to miss out on Vuelta selection
Speaking to L'Équipe after finishing 56th in yesterday’s super short 2.3km prologue TT at the Tour of Germany, Rowe’s teammate Pavel Sivakov said that missing out on the Spanish grand tour was a “big blow”, especially after spending almost two months at altitude this summer preparing for the race, along with a further four weeks training and racing with what he assumed was the Vuelta squad.
The 26-year-old announced at the beginning of the month that, after six years with the British squad, he will be leaving to join UAE Team Emirates for 2024, one of a number of big-name riders heading out the Ineos exit door this winter, including Tao Geoghegan Hart, Ben Tulett, and Dani Martinez, while the future of promising Spaniard Carlos Rodríguez hangs in the balance.
Meanwhile, rumours continue to persist concerning a merger between the team and Soudal-Quick Step, a momentous move that, if true, would see Remco Evenepoel spearhead the new squad’s GC challenge at the grand tours, and help revitalise an outfit that has been in transition mode for a few seasons now after the heady successes of the 2010s.
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It’s perhaps fair to say that, despite GC wins at the Tour of Poland, Tour of the Alps, and the Vuelta a Burgos, the departing Sivakov hasn’t quite lived up to the admittedly lofty expectations placed upon him since turning pro with the then-Team Sky in 2019.
And this month’s Vuelta snub has only underlined, in his eyes, his status as just a “pawn” in the Ineos game.
“We will say that I had a big blow last week,” he told L'Équipe yesterday. “I was told that I was not going to do the Vuelta, it was really difficult. I spent a month and a half at altitude this summer and three weeks with the Vuelta squad. We then all went together to the Tour of Poland. It went well, very well indeed.
“Afterwards, I went straight back to altitude to prepare this Vuelta. I think I was in the best condition of my season, in my opinion I was even better than before the Giro, and then there you go...
“I got a phone call telling me it wasn’t going to happen. It was complicated. I’ve been on the team for six years, everyone knows I'm leaving, but that’s cycling.
“We’re just numbers, pawns. That’s kind of how I see it. It makes us realise that the ‘management’ sometimes has to make difficult decisions. I was shot at the time, but I have since pulled myself together. I want to take advantage of all the work that has been done this summer by trying to do something by the end of the season.”
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Well Jezza, not sure you realised this but Old knobber was a PBU, you don't think PBU's should be re-banned?
As you are quite a new poster* can you tell me what is inconsistent ban hammering? Someone who has been on the site under multiple guises and banned for racist content under a few of them, and who the mods state is not welcome is banned again.
So tell me why he shouldn't be banned?
*Or do you want to tell us why you were banned last time and why it was inconsistent?
There are plenty of instances of comments which i believe to have been over the line that stay up.
As I mentioned, don't report them as the road.cc inbox is not monitored.
Perhaps you could enlighten me or the mods can on exactly why KYA was banned?
So no-one actually knows why he was banned?
Very typical it appears of road.cc - indiscriminate and corrupt
My wife's gone and done it again - she put the washing out before we took the dogs a walk. I kept telling her it looked like rain but once again she wouldn't listen. She's a real risk taker, life is a rollercoaster living with her. Anyway it didn't rain. But it could have.
To be fair, that is pretty perilous. Glad it didn't rain for you though
So to be clear, no-one knows why KYA was banned? Sounds about right for this hotbed of corruption.
Hotbed of corruption? Wasn't that Robert Fripps first band? I think he lives in Pershore. Well his wife does anyway.
"Hotbed of corruption" was actually an early mistranslated calque for "potpourri". A "fragrant error" indeed...
Indeed he lives just down from Cafe Nerd. You know, round the corner from where the death races start.
Banned for being a previous banned user, one who was previously banned for both racisim and misogynisitc comments previously. So it might not have been something he has stated in this personna, just for being someone trying to circumvent an obvious previous banning.
Shame the other wanker is still here and not banned for being a PBU.
Shame about them - if not just another persona of course. They seemed to have been radicalised by boo/nige/.../kya. Over a short period they noticeably changed and adopted a similar approach. Including returning from beyond the block!
If they are TIMY, (and looking at some of the comments to Ren about his personal circumstances, I can't see why not), I suppose being accused of being boo/nige/.../kya early on must have mentally effected the person into becoming just like them in the end.
I think it was the unlamented Martin73 who really turned username to the bad, he was always a bit here for the fight (if I recall correctly, wasn't his first ever post as username about what a terrible left-wing Corbynista pro-EU mob we are?) but it was Martin who started the whole personal attacks business ("you live in your wife's flat, you're only online because she lets you use her laptop" etc - honestly!) and he then gleefully joined in along with Nigel and his many aliases. It's a shame because when he forgot about being a bully and actually talked about cycling he was clearly interested and had a contribution to make, unlike Martin who was solely here to explain to everybody why cycling was rubbish apart from a very him-specific commuter niche.
Wasn't the first post but they did put
"You're all TROLLS
This is such a left wing Corbynista, anti-eu and anti-Johnson site
just can't stand you toffee nosed snobs"
And they got very upset when reminded of their post.
That's the one! Always loved the anti-EU accusation in the middle.
Well I can't criticise those engaging in a bit of sarcasm and wind up without hypocrisy... I guess it's in the "how". Now you mention it I believe you're correct on how this happened.
socraticyclist / martin73 seems to have espoused* a rather particular version of "vehicular cycling" (seem to be quite a few particularly argumentative types who hold this view). Plus some beef with kids cycling (despite IIRC claiming to be a cycling trainer). Their view seemed to be cycling should not be favoured in any way - rather the opposite. For one most (normal) people don't do it (in the UK...). After all it makes you sweaty! They expressed contempt towards other cyclists - unskilled, undisciplined or weak (also shared with boo/nigel/KYA) compared to them. Cycle campaigners were seen as spoilt children whining when the adults rightly pick them up on their selfish follies.
* If they actually were exposing their personal view as opposed to just making argument.
Ah yes, Martin the (alleged) Bikeability trainer who said that cyclists should ride 99% of the time in the gutter because if drivers can't see you they won't hit you and that women don't want to cycle because they don't want oil on their Louboutins (sp?) or for their hair to end up looking like an explosion in the Decthalon aisle...althought that sort of idiocy was pretty amusing really, it was when he went on to start making up and regularly repeating false stories about other posters' (alright, mainly my) employment and lifestyles and, unforgiveably, making insulting remarks about their partners that he crossed the line, eagerly followed by Nigel and username.
If I remember right, it were Nigel who went off to ask his mother's opinion on something. And once you've opened the Yo Momma door, it ain't ever closed.
Wishy Washy Rule were a very underrated band in my opinion. They should have won the Eurovision song contest but inexplicably Puppet on a String was chosen as our entry instead. I know we won but I still think their song was better.
I think as a tribute act, "Inconsistent Ban Hammer" is worth looking up and going to see, his version of "Crockett's Theme" is superb.
For some reason I was getting him mixed up with Jan Akkerman from seventies yodelling pop group Focus. In my opinion one of the finest yodelling pop groups ever.
I'd forgotten all about Wishy Washy rule. Didn't Carter USM sample their track "cyber bully" on Sherrif Fatman?
Ban Hammer won the Eurovision song contest back in '91 if I remember correctly. Truly the first group to put scandinavian death metal on the Eurovision map. Their lead singer, Ahti Moshinen, was famous for consuming 30 Starbucks "Espressos" a day at the height of their fame (which came much later).
I once met him years ago in Costa. I pointed out to him that in my opinion Starbucks coffee was so much better, so I feel partly responsible for his later Starbucks addiction. He bought me a doughnut.
Did you get him to autograph it?
I only wish I had, it would be worth pounds now.
Was he buying a lemon tart to go with his coffee?
Lemon Tart? I think I was at college with her.
Well, I can understand why it's a problem for you, given that you have been banned before. If you have instances where I've transgressed the site T&Cs as you did and KYA has in every one of his multiple personas to get banned, feel free to report them to info [at] road.cc and I'm sure they'll deal with it (contrary to the assertions of yourself and Nigel, I have no connections with, or influence over, this site other than being a subscriber; if I did you would have been re-banned as soon as you reappeared, for a start). Otherwise, as I said to you many times when you were thisismyusername, if you think this site is so awful and corrupt and biased, why do you keep coming back? Many other cycling websites are available.
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