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Richmond Park cyclist crashes into car’s rear window after driver slows to let geese cross road

Police say rider was taken to hospital but injuries are not “life threatening or life changing”

A ​cyclist crashed into the rear window of a car in Richmond Park yesterday after a driver slowed down to let some geese cross the road, according to police.

The incident happened on Boxing Day morning between Kingston and Ham gates, according to a tweet from Royal Parks police, accompanied by a photograph of the broken rear window of the Mercedes car involved.

Officers confirmed that the male cyclist had been taken to hospital, adding that his injuries were not “life threatening or life changing,” and that they are continuing to investigate the incident.

News of the crash has reignited calls for motor vehicles to be banned from the 955-hectrare Royal Park which is hugely popular with cyclists from southwest London and beyond and is a national nature reserve, a Site of Special Scientific Interest and a Special Area of Conservation.

Among those responding to the tweet from the police was Rory McCarron, a specialist cycling lawyer at Leigh Day solicitors, who was riding his bike in Richmond Park yesterday and described how he had seen some “awful driving,” including motorists exceeding the 20mph speed limit.

Richmond Park was closed to motor traffic for five months from March last year due to the coronavirus pandemic, and the decision by The Royal Parks to reopen the roads to rat-running drivers from March was described as a “reckless and drastic” move by London Cycling Campaign. Access to the park for motorists is due to be reviewed in the New Year.

Footage of close passes on cyclists and other instances of irresponsible and intimidating driving is regularly posted to social media, and we have regularly reported on cyclists being injured in road traffic collisions in the park.

Last month cycling instructor and bike mechanic David Williams said he was knocked off his bike on purpose by a driver as he returned home from a training session at a local school.

> Driver deliberately knocks cyclist off bike in Richmond Park

The 53-year-old broke his collarbone and sustained severe bruising as a result of the incident, which is being investigated by the Metropolitan Police.

"This one car, a blue BMW, went past me and was really close,” he said. “I slapped the boot to let the driver know how close he had been.

“He immediately braked quite sharply. I wasn’t able to stop but filtered along the road between the car and grass and ended up in front of him.

“Immediately, he then accelerated and came alongside me – about a foot away. I rapped on his roof to make the point he was too close and get him away.

“He accelerated again and swerved in towards me, knocking me off balance and I fell right onto my shoulder into the road. He then sped off down the hill.”

He added: “The people in the other cars behind me were shocked. This was not an accident. They probably thought they wanted to scare me, but the consequences are very serious for me.

“My head hit the floor quite hard and my helmet is now finished as it has a big crack in it.”

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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Rendel Harris replied to mattsccm | 2 years ago
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mattsccm wrote:

It matter not if something overtakes then slams its brakes on. The follower is at fault. As a principle you should be able to stop.

This simply is not the case. A following driver should only overtake where there is room safely to return to their lane without entering the safe braking zone of the vehicle they are overtaking. If the driver has to cut into this zone they should not have made the overtake in the first place and are culpable for any incidents resulting from them having to brake whilst in said zone.

 

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Captain Badger replied to Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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Rendel Harris wrote:

I hope the geese turned round afterwards and said, "Now you buggers know what it feels like to get stuffed at Christmas."

A sage response Mr Harris...

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Rendel Harris replied to Captain Badger | 2 years ago
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Captain Badger wrote:
Rendel Harris wrote:

I hope the geese turned round afterwards and said, "Now you buggers know what it feels like to get stuffed at Christmas."

A sage response Mr Harris...

I know my onions...

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chrisonabike replied to hawkinspeter | 2 years ago
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I hope they breathalysed the driver - around this time of year they might well have had a few and been totally goosed.

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didsthewinegeek replied to Losd | 2 years ago
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As per usual Road CC muddy the waters and post a story and regurgetate another story to get extra impact. The cyclist that went into the back of the car accidently, the hard braking incident is a totally separate story. The one you respond to happened last month, the incident in the park yesterday. The BMW he went into last month close passed the cyclist then when he got in front broke hard. How could this be the fault of the cyclist? How could he be travelling too close when the BMW had just passed him?

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jova54 replied to Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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Assuming the cyclist was behind the car, reasonable, and that the car was not going backwards, also reasonable, this is the cyclist's fault; no matter how hard the driver applied the brakes.

Consider an alternative similar situation; You are behind a car approaching a roundabout and they appear to be entering the roundabout but then stop; if you collide with them it is your fault.

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chrisonabike replied to jova54 | 2 years ago
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jova54 wrote:

Assuming the cyclist was behind the car, reasonable, and that the car was not going backwards, also reasonable, this is the cyclist's fault; no matter how hard the driver applied the brakes.

Consider an alternative similar situation; You are behind a car approaching a roundabout and they appear to be entering the roundabout but then stop; if you collide with them it is your fault.

Not the same though is it?  In your example the situation leading up to the crash hasn't abruptly changed. At the start, there is a car in front of you. At the end, same. Clearly your responsibility.

In an overtake and cut in situation you start with a car overtaking you (their choice / look out) and then end with them performing a sudden mavouever in front of you.

I've no opinion on what actually happened here and have indeed suggested that it's perfectly possible the cyclist didn't notice the car slowing down / was already following too close. However it is certainly possible for a car to rapidly overtake you, cut in quickly close to you and brake.  In practice that may not give you sufficient time to drop back to create space (which the other driver has forced you to do if they've cut in close to you) / brake quickly and effectively enough to stop before hitting them.

If you're saying "legally the cyclist is on a sticky wicket unless they've got good evidence of a brake check" I'd agree. That's my judgement of how it's likely to go in a court though. Not the same as the law!

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Rendel Harris replied to jova54 | 2 years ago
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An alternative assumption which is also perfectly reasonable as it's one encountered by many cyclists in RP, including myself on more than one occasion, is that the driver misjudged the closing distance of oncoming traffic in overtaking and cut back in to avoid a collision (thereby breaking HC 163 on overtaking, "Move back to the left as soon as you can but do not cut in") then saw the additional hazard and braked for it. If the cyclist was behind the car throughout the incident and didn't leave sufficient braking distance, yes it's his fault. If he was left without sufficient braking distance because the driver cut into his braking distance, that's her fault.

There is an erroneous assumption that any rearend shunt is the fault of the driver behind in law; this is not the case, there is no such law and there is plenty of case history where the driver in front has been held partially or wholly responsible for the collision. If the actions of another driver (for example cutting in too quickly then immediately braking hard) mean that the driver behind could not be reasonably expected to anticipate or avoid the collision, fault lies with the driver in front.

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jova54 replied to Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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Where is your proof of  overtaking and then suddenly braking?

Just because it has happened to you in the past doesn't mean that every other event follows the same pattern. Yes, the driver might have braked hard but to go through a rear window you have to some momentum.

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Hirsute replied to jova54 | 2 years ago
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The point is a valid alternative explanation. See the current compilation video of driving in RP.
As it is, I think the balance of probability is that the cyclist is at fault although the driver being at fault is somewhat more than slim.

(Where is the proof of geese if you go down that route?)

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Rendel Harris replied to jova54 | 2 years ago
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Where is your proof of  overtaking and then suddenly braking?

Where's your proof that the cyclist was too close/inattentive? Neither of us know what happened, just putting forward an alternative explanation based on my forty years of experience of riding those roads and the way drivers often behave in the park.

jova54 wrote:

Yes, the driver might have braked hard but to go through a rear window you have to some momentum.

If a rider is doing 20mph and a driver cuts sharply in front whilst simultaneously braking hard, clearly there will be considerable momentum involved.

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Captain Badger replied to Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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Rendel Harris wrote:

Interesting, doubtless subconscious, choice of nomenclature by the RPS there: the person in the car is "the driver of a vehicle" (pretty much neutral) with the cyclist being "a male on a bike" (pretty close to the hated MAMIL). Why, I wonder? Why also  is the incident described as "slowed to allow some geese to cross the road" rather than "braked" - it would be a highly inattentive cyclist who ploughed into the back of a car with sufficient force to go through the rear window because it merely "slowed". "Collided into"? A collision is the interaction of two bodies, apart from "collided into" being grammatically incorrect it implies that only one body was actively involved with the other being passive and static. The whole description seems slanted towards the incident being the fault of an aggressive cyclist - which for all I know it may have been, but as the police wouldn't have finished any investigation and no charges are mentioned they should surely have been more neutral in their posting.

I thought the wording about "slowed to allow.."was weird too. It sounds like some dappy idiot slowing and waving then across, rather than (and I consider this the likely scenario) a risk aware driver realising that geese by the road being unpredictable it was wise to slow down as necessary to avoid a collision.
Had the rider been maintaining a sufficient stopping distance and/or paying attention to the road ahead it is difficult to see how a collision would have occurred.
I'll concede that we don't know the full facts, but presumed liability(as rear enders are judged regarding liability) would without further evidence place the blame squarely at the rider's door.

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Rendel Harris replied to Captain Badger | 2 years ago
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Captain Badger wrote:

Had the rider been maintaining a sufficient stopping distance and/or paying attention to the road ahead it is difficult to see how a collision would have occurred.

That is true but on that stretch of road, which is always busy, it seems to me less likely that it was rider inattentiveness and more likely that the driver went to overtake the cyclist, realised the oncoming traffic was closer than she thought, cut back in on the cyclist then saw the secondary hazard of the geese and braked. The first part, being cut in on, happens regularly to me in Richmond Park, as the road between Ham and Kingston gates is too narrow to allow an overtaking car to pass a bike - even close pass - and avoid any oncoming vehicle. Impatient drivers frequently pull fast overtakes and dive back in far too early to leave a rider a safe braking distance if they (the car driver) suddenly were to encounter a hazard ahead. Obviously pure supposition on my part in this case but having had it happen to me plenty of times (fortunately without a hazard forcing the car to brake) I can see how it could have happened here.

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Captain Badger replied to Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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Rendel Harris wrote:
Captain Badger wrote:

Had the rider been maintaining a sufficient stopping distance and/or paying attention to the road ahead it is difficult to see how a collision would have occurred.

That is true but on that stretch of road, which is always busy, it seems to me less likely that it was rider inattentiveness and more likely that the driver went to overtake the cyclist, realised the oncoming traffic was closer than she thought, cut back in on the cyclist then saw the secondary hazard of the geese and braked. The first part, being cut in on, happens regularly to me in Richmond Park, as the road between Ham and Kingston gates is too narrow to allow an overtaking car to pass a bike - even close pass - and avoid any oncoming vehicle. Impatient drivers frequently pull fast overtakes and dive back in far too early to leave a rider a safe braking distance if they (the car driver) suddenly were to encounter a hazard ahead. Obviously pure supposition on my part in this case but having had it happen to me plenty of times (fortunately without a hazard forcing the car to brake) I can see how it could have happened here.

Yes, this is a possibility, but we would be speculating. If it is the case, hopefully the rider was filming.

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