West Midlands European parliamentarian Nikki Sinclaire has called for all cyclists to wear registration markings so that they are “accountable” for their actions.
The former UKIP MEP, who now sits as a member for the We Demand a Referendum Now party, told BBC West Midlands yesterday that cyclists should wear fluorescent vests with registration numbers.
She said: “I think cyclists need to be accountable. They need to observe the Highway Code.”
I’m certainly not anti-cyclist, I’m a cyclist when I can get the time myself.”
Ms Sinclaire tweeted the above picture of herself wearing high-vis.
She told presenter Adrian Goldberg: “I see, time and time again, in Birmingham and London, cyclists running red lights and putting pedestrians in danger.
“I’m not saying the cycle itself should be registered. What I’m seeking is a registration of cyclists - not on all roads, just on main roads in the city.
“We need to encourage more cyclists, but we also need accountability.”
Adrian Goldberg said he had recently had to dodge a cyclist who had run a red light.
Ms Sinclaire said: “Had you hit that cyclist, you would have been prosecuted.”
Graham Hankins, of Birmingham cycling campaign Push Bikes, went on the show to explain why cycling campaigners think registration is a bad idea.
He said: “The registration system would be seen as a barrier to people cycling.
“There are lots of people out there would like to cycle but, the more rules you put in front of them, that would be seen as a barrier to cycling in the first place.”
Ms Sinclaire followed up her comments yesterday afternoon on BBC Hereford and Worcester.
She said: “For a start I think we need helmets, I should it be compulsory for people to wear helmets.”
She said that she only wanted cyclist registration plates in towns and cities, where it would be effective because of pervasive surveillance.
“The reason this would work in the UK, I don’t think it would work anywhere else in the world, is that we’ve got the most cameraed cities and towns in the world.”
Ms Sinclaire’s attitude to cyclists mirrors that of her former UKIP colleagues. In its 2010 election manifesto, the party said: “There needs to be a better balance of rights and responsibilities for pedal cyclists” and claimed there was “too much aggressive abuse of red lights, pedestrian crossings and a lack of basic safety and road courtesy.”
At the time, Chris Peck, policy co-ordinator at national cyclists’ organisation CTC, said: “UKIP are living up to their reputation with their cycling policy - it’s classic anti-cyclist third-pint-in stuff.”
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Daft politician statements, brilliant.
Serious face, Question: does she agree we need compulsory big puffy foam car bonnets?
No problem. I'll wear a helmet and hi-vis provided that the following also is enforced:-
1. All pedestrians also wear helmets and hi-vis as they would get more benefit from cycling helmets than cyclists.
2. All TfL buses to be taken off the roads as they are a proven hazard to life and limb.
3. All car occupants to wear helmets [Yes they do exist see www.copenhaganize.com] as the most common injury to car occupants in crashes are head injuries.
4. All children under the age of 10 to be fitted with reins held by a responsible adult at all times that they are out by public roads.
5. All cars to be painted in vibrant dayglo colours and limited to 20mph.
6. All cars to be fitted with prominent health warnings in the style of cigarette packets.
You don't think I've gone too far do you?
Please feel free to add to this list.
I think it's a great idea. While we're at it, let's make pedestrians get licensed to walk on pavements and licensed separately to cross roads. Let's impose a double licensing regime on dog walkers. Or people with prams. Just off to join UKIP now.
Another load of crap from those who think they know best. I once worked in a local authority road safety unit where the philosophy was to keep cyclists off the roads and thus reduce accidents, rather than deal with the problem - the motor vehicle. 1.3 million are killed by motor vehicles every year throughout the world and millions more injured. Millions more are affected by asthma and other respiratory diseases. Urban squalor thrives with more space being given to park cars than to green open spaces. Yet we devote massive efforts to fight terrorism - a fight difficult to win given the West's current foreign policies. However, it would be possible to save more lives by giving more attention to promoting worldwide safe cycling and walking. Heavens only knows what stupidity is leading China, India and other developing countries to get rid of bikes and embrace the car.
Sadly, much of the problem in the UK is caused by the attitudes of motorists and the media towards cyclists. They should be welcoming cyclists. After all, they use less road space. Ironically,it was the early cyclists who invented pneumatic tyres, as well as aeroplanes and motor vehicles,
and pushed for the metalled road surfaces we have today.
Happy + safe cycling to all.
Well what can we say! A great picture dont she look happy? Not! And the hi-viz jacket doesnt do much in bright days proven. Hey and whats this it looks like a 3 door ford fiesta psassing extremly closely to her, maybe the hi-viz enabled the driver to get even closer putting her at risk. Hi-viz is great at night. As regards having an identifying mark I assume thats great in full view stamped on the back of the jacket. Oh alot of thought went into that most people carry their kit in a rucsac humm that will work NOT. Also cars have identifying marks number plates etc but it dont stop them from carving cyclists up and failing to signal their intentions. I drive and ride and we seem to miss out it doesnt matter what we drive ride fly sail etc it boils down to the idiot behind the controls.
Well, I've got the helmet and the hi viz. I'll just put a "reg number" on the back and see if it makes any difference either on the road or cycle path.
Who is this person? Lowers my faith in our politicians even further. http://road.cc/sites/all/modules/smileys/packs/Yahoo!/doh.gif
Being cynical, I see it like this:
Anti-cycling lobby carefully select gullible individual.
The seed of thought is sown.
Gullible individual issues bonkers statement.
Cyclists do the usual chatter on forums.
The silliest reactionary pieces get targeted on the twittersphere.
The opinions of motorists, about cyclists, remain firmly anti.
Those whose assets are dependent on drivers continuing to drive are protected.
But if we avoid rising to the bait, we might be able to push through change a little faster.
What a daft proposition from this Part, Part-Time, Part-Timer.
Accountable to what?
If so, get rid of all cars on the road first.
In the words of the recently not so dearly departed Margaret Thatcher, "No, No, No."
Good way to kill off cycle gear manufacturers and shops. Why sell expensive kit when all you can wear is one colour, sounds more like Chairman Mao than and MEP.
another idiot ...
Needs to learn how to put a helmet on properly - looks nicely set up to garrotte her if it hits the deck before her face but mounted high that is lees likely to happen...
You'd have thought someone fitting so many niche groups, be it the far right or gender differences would be more supportive of minority groups like cyclists. Maybe it's a sign we are now the mainstream.
Fingers crossed his/her funny shaped head implodes under the stress or thinking up more shite to spout.
I am a keen cyclist for pleasure and for commuting. I have often despaired at the arrogant behaviour and bad practice of many of my fellow bikers that put themselves and others in danger and only confirm the anti-bike prejudice of other road users. Cycle organisations and authorities should be more pro-active in engendering good cycling skills. Motorists show the same traits, but lets be on the good side - two wromgs don't make a right.
We need to accept that, although bikes may become better accommodated, for the foreseeable future we share the road space. Cyclists need to get the rest of the public on their side to get support for better cycling facilities. It is common sense to wear high viz and helmet and to have a bell and lights - these should not be seen as an imposition. Registration of bikes and a modest levy could also defuse the argument that cyclists make no contribution to road funding and would make cyclists' demands more credible.
She's not quite as bonkers as the UKIP councillor who claimed homosexuality is the cause of Britain's recent spate of bad weather. But she isn't utterly rational.
In Franz Kafka's The Trial, he refers to his bicycle licence as an example of necessary ID and it is rejected for being so utterly trivial. I doubt she'd see the irony.
I think it'd be better if it were compulsory for politicians to have average intelligence at the very least.
Hmm, I note another post by someone saying cyclists should pay to use the roads, and by someone who has made precisely two posts. No where have I heard that before?
As a follow up - I don't necessarily agree with how the MEP wants to implement his policy. But my message is that cyclists have to play the PR game to get support. And lets not forget that many cyclists are also drivers so have a foot in both camps - I believe many do not actively campaign for cycling because of this.
We also need "JUDEN" tattooed on our foreheads I suppose?
Maybe it's people cycling on pavements we have to blame for the recent bad weather
What about mobility scooters?
Roller skates?
Scooters?
Skateboards?
Space hoppers?
Dugs?
Horses ?
Those big ball things that go on water?
Motor Vehicles have a Reggie for one reason.....taxation.
If they can't work out a way to tax it, it won't happen.
I'd rather she campaigned on well-fitting helmets.
Predictable tosh from the UKIP raving loonie party.
More pissed off at the regular letters in Cycling Weekly banging on about helmets and hi viz.
"The mother of idiots is always pregnant", as a Hungarian friend says.
Sorry Keith but its not commonsense in relation to the helmet. Everyone knows, even the most steadfast of us who wear one, that they offer little in safety once your over a certain speed. High viz and bells ? well i'm pretty sure the jury are out on that one as well.
Lights - yes 1000% .
The registration of bikes is completely unworkable, who would check them as i, as a serving cop, certainly dont have the time and i WONT pay anything to this govt so i can ride a bike as they take far to much from me in any case.
I think it was 2 men on a tandem that caused it
Yeah sadly it seems my point passed you by, those again as I stated do nothing since up on the A4 I see plenty of cars go through various red lights that have those various elements I don't see them getting in trouble as guess what...no cops or camera's.
[[[[[[ KHISANTH------the reason you've "nearly been hit by plenty" (of cyclists) is because you're not wearing your screaming-yellow jackety thing! And I suggest also a helmet with a big flashing LED on top, for extra visibility. You can't be too careful, innit!
P.R.
The MEP in question is a she.
Why should Chris Juden take all the flak ?
In the real world its about PR - just look as if you are trying to do the right thing. I accept enforcement would be as ineffective in relation to bad cyclists as they are for bad motorists,. But my point is to try to get the anti-cycling public to stop thinking cyclists are freeloaders and the enemy.
My
was meant as a reply to
The "Reply" button on this forum should say "Comment" instead - there is no 'threading' ...
Incidentally Google Images contains a camouflaged helicopter in the 8 'most visually similar images' to the one above.
http://www.sinaimg.cn/dy/slidenews/8_img/2013_35/428_19125_178599.jpg
Perspicuity vs. conspicuity ?
All-black is conspicuous on a bright day. Camo works by disrupting the outlines.
http://www.woostercollective.com/cubism-razzle-dazzle-camouflage-paintin...
The car is only about a foot away, but her brakes seem to be on, and her feet down, so they may be stationary at traffic lights ... did the car pass close, or did she filter/undertake a stationary car ?
Keith. Roads are funded from general taxation. Every UK tax payer contributes to road funding. In order to have ever paid any "road tax" at all you would need to be at least 94 years old. You would have needed to have been 17 in 1937 when "road tax" was abolished and owned a car. I'm sure there is someone that can fit those criteria but I doubt more than a handful. Although it could be no-one at all.
Your tax disc does not fund roads. It goes to general taxation it is not hypothecated. As it happens though most adult cyclists are also motorists in fact the CTC found that there was a higher than average level of car ownership amongst cyclists probably because on average cyclists are more represented amongst the better off economically. I personally am a higher rate tax payer and I own three cars and pay vehicle excise duty on all of them.
Would you mind explaining to me why you think a car driver on a low income with one car contributes more to the up keep of the roads than I do.
Maybe instead we should work out what people's net tax contribution is and therefore what percentage of the roads budget they have contributed to and allow people access to the roads based on that. On that basis anyone earning less than £15k is unlikely to be a net tax payer. If they had kids the figure rises by around £1700 a year and if the kids are at school by another £6k per child.
When my kids were at school then I wasn't a net tax payer until I earned around £30k. Luckily for a lot a motorists (and I am a motorist myself as well as a pedestrian and a cyclist) some of us contribute to the net tax take so we can have roads. Many a white van driver out there probably doesn't.
Keith an understanding of where your taxes go, and who pays what for what ought to be on the school curriculum. It isn't and that is a shame but it is no excuse for complete and abject ignorance or for citing taxes that Winston Churchill started the process to abolish in 1926 and that finally were abolished 77 years ago.
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