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New Forest threatens numbers cap on events, but local councillor says it won't work

"Cars are much more of a problem on New Forest roads than cycles," says Cllr David Harrison...

New Forest National Park Authority (NFNPA) board member David Harrison has come out strongly against a proposed cap on rider numbers in cycling events in the park.

A limit of 1000 riders in popular sportive events such as the Wiggle New Forest Spring Sportive and New Forest 100 has been proposed as part of a cycling events charter laid out by the authority's Cycling Liaison Group.

But Councillor David Harrison says the cap would not work.

On his Facebook page, Cllr Harrison, the Lid-Dem representative for Totton South and Marchwood writes: "Can you imagine what a fuss would be kicked up in the New Forest National Park Authority proposed a cap on the number of cars allowed to enter the New Forest area?"

NFNPA has no power to set such a limit on cars, or on cyclists for that matter. Nor, Harrison points out does Hampshire County Council, the highways authority.

The area's MP, Dr Julian Lewis (tipped by the Daily Mirror as one of the top 11 Tory MPs likely to defect to UKIP) has been lobbying for changes in the law to limit sportives. Harrison says that lobbying is "quite rightly falling on deaf ears as far as the coalition government are concerned."

He writes: "By any reasonable assessment, cars are much more of a problem on New Forest roads than cycles, whether you are talking about pollution, animal deaths and injuries, or congestion.

"It is therefore no surprise to me that cycling groups are resisting pressure to sign a revised cycling charter that includes a cap on the numbers of cyclists taking part in organised events."

The proposed limit has not been widely publicised. The most recently available version of the draft charter makes no mention of a limit, but minutes of a recent meeting of the park's Resources, Audit and Performance Committee say:

"The Authority’s decision in June to include within the Charter for Cycle Event Organisers a cap of 1,000 riders and a requirement for riders to wear rear identification numbers has prompted a mixed reaction from organisations represented on the Cycling Liaison Group. We are awaiting confirmation of support from key statutory organisations for the revised wording."

That would seem to go against the decision — or rather lack of one — of the Cycling Liaison Group in April. The minutes of that meeting read: "Nigel [Matthews, chair of the New Forest National Park Authority] advised that he had received very few responses from the Group as to whether there should be a restriction on the maximum numbers in the Charter – and amongst these there was no consensus."

Road.cc understands that 'mixed reaction' is euphemistic at best. Cycling representatives on the liaison group are opposed to the cap, but they make up only a minority of the group. Of the 26 members, only seven represent cycling organisations or business

Harrison says those opposed to large cycling events in the park, and to the introduction of a rural 'Boris Bike' scheme are unable to provide evidence that cycling in the park is actually a problem.

He writes: "When cyclists have asked for evidence that large numbers of cyclists cause problems over and above say, car usage, the authorities can't deliver.

"This chimes very much with what some members of the National Park Authority claimed when abandoning the rural bike hire scheme. They claimed there was strong evidence of local "anti cycling sentiment". In fact, even the NPA surveys showed the reverse was true. Most local people wanted the bike hire scheme to be implemented. Instead, a large chunk of money will now go back to central government."

And it's not just the investment in the hire scheme that has been lost thanks to the NFNPA's opposition to cycling. Since Wiggle sportive organiser UK Cycling Events was forced to move its event HQ out of the park boundaries to Matchams, B&B's, hotels, and restaurants in the Brockenhurst and Lyndhurst areas say  takings on event weekends are down as much as 30%.

Harrison thinks the events charter will never make it out of draft form.

He writes: "Recent sportive events have been enjoyed by hundreds of people. Local businesses are fans of cyclists, not least because they spend more locally than other visitors do.

It's in the interests of the organisers to abide by the charter, as drafted. I don't think they should agree to a cap on numbers. They have already shown that events can take place and be enjoyed without conflict, without restrictions being artificially imposed by authorities without due cause to do so."

John has been writing about bikes and cycling for over 30 years since discovering that people were mug enough to pay him for it rather than expecting him to do an honest day's work.

He was heavily involved in the mountain bike boom of the late 1980s as a racer, team manager and race promoter, and that led to writing for Mountain Biking UK magazine shortly after its inception. He got the gig by phoning up the editor and telling him the magazine was rubbish and he could do better. Rather than telling him to get lost, MBUK editor Tym Manley called John’s bluff and the rest is history.

Since then he has worked on MTB Pro magazine and was editor of Maximum Mountain Bike and Australian Mountain Bike magazines, before switching to the web in 2000 to work for CyclingNews.com. Along with road.cc founder Tony Farrelly, John was on the launch team for BikeRadar.com and subsequently became editor in chief of Future Publishing’s group of cycling magazines and websites, including Cycling Plus, MBUK, What Mountain Bike and Procycling.

John has also written for Cyclist magazine, edited the BikeMagic website and was founding editor of TotalWomensCycling.com before handing over to someone far more representative of the site's main audience.

He joined road.cc in 2013. He lives in Cambridge where the lack of hills is more than made up for by the headwinds.

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giobox | 9 years ago
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Every time another ridiculous New Forest cycling story comes out I just do not get it. Who are these crazy people? They are completely alien to me. In other parts of the country this sort of thing wouldn't even be imagined, let alone debated in local government.

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Matt eaton | 10 years ago
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Unless events are held on closed roads it would be impossible to limit the number of riders. Even if registrations were limited people are still free to turn up and ride the route on the day and I'm sure this already happens to some degree, both due to events being sold out and folks not wanting to pay the entry fee.

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BigDummy | 10 years ago
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Another excellent reason to avoid the overrated and unfriendly New Forest in favour of less tiresome areas.

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Russell Orgazoid | 10 years ago
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Well said David Harrison.

Big, important drivers in big, important cars.

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simon.thornton | 10 years ago
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I blame it on the trees

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Grubbythumb | 10 years ago
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So how come retired wealthy types, who have the ability to make sizeable donations to party funds seem to be listened to, where as local businesses who have to pay the same rates regardless of their level of income are ignored.

It's a mystery.

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Babbs | 10 years ago
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Cyclists should boycott the area totally! Local business will dissipate to Summer success only...only the locals will suffer, maybe that'd be enough to put pressure to those opposing cycling.
Come to the East Midlands to ride we'd be happy and welcome your custom!

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mrmo replied to Babbs | 10 years ago
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Babbs wrote:

Cyclists should boycott the area totally! Local business will dissipate to Summer success only...only the locals will suffer, maybe that'd be enough to put pressure to those opposing cycling.
Come to the East Midlands to ride we'd be happy and welcome your custom!

By and large it is not the "true" locals who are the problem, it Is the rich retirees, the second home owners, those who have moved to the area expecting an idyll and are shocked to discover other people want to use their roads and their countryside! Bit like the cases you get where people move into a country house then launch legal action against the farm next door because of the muck spreading.

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bikebot replied to Babbs | 10 years ago
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Babbs wrote:

Cyclists should boycott the area totally! Local business will dissipate to Summer success only...only the locals will suffer, maybe that'd be enough to put pressure to those opposing cycling.
Come to the East Midlands to ride we'd be happy and welcome your custom!

The locals who would suffer aren't the ones opposing cycling. They're almost entirely the cliche of the UKIP supporting retired nimby.

I think an interesting question to ask them, is what do they consider to be an "event". For example, if there were a thousand people cycling to work every morning to a major employer in the area, would that be considered an event? What would that represent in terms of overall modal share?

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PhillBrown replied to Babbs | 10 years ago
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Babbs wrote:

Cyclists should boycott the area totally!

Damn... That means I have to move house, any space in your shed?

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Must be Mad | 10 years ago
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On a more serious note - Sportives are already limited on the numbers they can have - this is why the Dartmoor classic sells out in one day, and why even ride London 100 cannot take unlimited entrants.

So really - they already have limits, and its not an issue

I am concerned that if the NF nimbies do manage to increase their powers and force these changes through - then this will be a 'thin end of the wedge' moment - both for further restrictions in the NF, and maybe for other regions which might be looking at precedent set in the NF.

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Must be Mad | 10 years ago
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errrr.....what happened to our usual new forest bloke on a bike picture??

But look at how terrorized those ponies are - can't you see the fear in their eyes???

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Forester replied to Must be Mad | 10 years ago
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I think they are donkeys; three were killed last week in a hit and run.

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farrell | 10 years ago
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"On his Facebook page, Cllr Harrison, the Lid-Dem representative for Totton South and Marchwood writes"

Lid-Dem? Have BHIT rebranded themselves yet again?

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Username | 10 years ago
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I'd be all in favour of them limiting cars in the Forest to 1,000.

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usedtobefaster | 10 years ago
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the horse kicked him off as he rode past, in doing so breaking it's leg and then having to be put down.

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mrmo | 10 years ago
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simple question, how many donkeys have been killed by cyclists in the last few weeks?

Maybe the NFNPA should spend a bit more effort on dealing with the real dangers on the road and a little less pandering to a vocal minority of locals.

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mrchrispy | 10 years ago
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errrr.....what happened to our usual new forest bloke on a bike picture??

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farrell replied to mrchrispy | 10 years ago
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mrchrispy wrote:

errrr.....what happened to our usual new forest bloke on a bike picture??

After the flurry of comments on the Urbanist Brigette padded knickers review last week, perhaps Road.CC have got themselves confused when someone pointed out that it's readers really like a picture of a nice ass?

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