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Petition launched seeking to ban cyclists from Buckinghamshire's dual carriageways after rider killed last week

County Council urged to take action following death of 91-year-old Raymond Dare during time trial last week

A petition has been launched on Buckinghamshire County Council’s website calling for cyclists to be banned from dual carriageways in the county following the death last week of 91-year-old Raymond Dare, who was hit from the rear by a van driver as he took part in a time trial near Ayslesbury.

> Cyclist, 91, killed while taking part in time trial in Buckinghamshire

The text of the petition, posted last Friday and open until 18 August, reads:

We the undersigned petition the council to Ban cyclists from the high speed dual carriageways county wide

With the sad death of a cyclist taking part in a time trial on the A41 this week it is time the local transport agency did something about the very unsafe practice of cycling on dual carriageways. Cyclists are banned from motorways and many of the counties dual carriageways have the same speed limit of 70mph however there is no hard shoulder so it is in effect more dangerous than a motorway for them.

At the time of writing, 78 people had signed the petition.

Similar petitions have been drawn up before, sometimes following a fatal incident in which a cyclist was killed, such as one posted to UK Parliament site in 2015 calling for bicycles to be banned from the A50 in Derbyshire and Staffordshire.

It attracted 136 signatures, with 10,000 needed to trigger a response from the government, and 100,000 required for the House of Commons Backbench Business Committee to consider holding a debate on the issues raised.

Conservative MP for Burton, Andrew Griffiths, backed that petition, saying: “I can completely understand why residents want to start this petition against the cycling time trials. We’ve seen deaths on the A50 and I’ve seen myself near misses.

> MP supports petition calling for time trialling to be banned on A50

“I think unfortunately cyclists bring it [the petition] on themselves,” he continued.

“Many time trials aren’t well run and aren’t signposted," he claimed.

"Safety measures aren’t in place and unless cyclists start taking it more seriously these calls for cyclists to be banned will only continue.

“It would be a shame for cyclists but they desperately need to do something to protect themselves from other road users.

“One option would be to put warnings and signs at every junction.

“You can get onto the A50 and before you know it there is a cyclist right in front of you.”

Last November, we reported how Surrey County Council had rejected a petition with 306 signatories that had sought to ban cyclists from the A24 between Leatherhead and Dorking, popular with riders particularly at the weekend since it is one of the main access points to the Box Hill loop.

> A24 cycling ban rejected by Surrey County Council

The council said that it had the powers to prohibit the use of a road by cyclists, but not a duty to do so. The Prohibition of Cyclists Traffic Orders are made under the Road Traffic Regulations Act 1984, and this would require extensive consultation.

"This type of proposal would also require the support of the police, as they would be responsible for enforcing any traffic order of this type.

"This proposal would set an unjustified precedent that would also create an additional budget pressure for the cost of consultation, advertising and potentially enacting a traffic order, signs and enforcement.

"It is acknowledged that this section of the A24 formed part of the Olympic Cycle Route, in 2012, and the use of the road has brought cycling tourism to the area,” the council added.

"Any proposal to ban cycling from the A24 would not support the Surrey County Council's cycling strategy, in particular that 'we will support cycling as healthy, inclusive and affordable'."

Please note: This article was amended on 27 July 2017 to clarify comments made by Andrew Griffiths MP in an interview with the Uttoxeter News in 2014.

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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grumpyoldcyclist | 7 years ago
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For what it's worth I've just submitted a petition to the above council that they do everything they can to ensure that drivers of motorised, lethal vehicles look where they are going when on the council dual carriageways.

It has gone forward for review but I suspect it will be thrown out for being too logical.

 

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DonnyCampo replied to grumpyoldcyclist | 7 years ago
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grumpyoldcyclist wrote:

For what it's worth I've just submitted a petition to the above council that they do everything they can to ensure that drivers of motorised, lethal vehicles look where they are going when on the council dual carriageways.

It has gone forward for review but I suspect it will be thrown out for being too logical.

 

It's gone live, just signed it

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Christopher TR1 replied to DonnyCampo | 7 years ago
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[/quote] It's gone live, just signed it[/quote]

Me too.

Exasperating that nearly 100 people have signed the other petition. Exasperating how many stupid people are out there....

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Penny_Lane_Cyclist replied to DonnyCampo | 7 years ago
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DonnyCampo wrote:
grumpyoldcyclist wrote:

For what it's worth I've just submitted a petition to the above council that they do everything they can to ensure that drivers of motorised, lethal vehicles look where they are going when on the council dual carriageways.

It has gone forward for review but I suspect it will be thrown out for being too logical.

 

It's gone live, just signed it

https://democracy.buckscc.gov.uk/mgEPetitionDisplay.aspx?ID=3282&RPID=81...$LO$=1

Signed it too..

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burtthebike replied to Penny_Lane_Cyclist | 7 years ago
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Penny_Lane_Cyclist wrote:
DonnyCampo wrote:
grumpyoldcyclist wrote:

For what it's worth I've just submitted a petition to the above council that they do everything they can to ensure that drivers of motorised, lethal vehicles look where they are going when on the council dual carriageways.

It has gone forward for review but I suspect it will be thrown out for being too logical.

 

It's gone live, just signed it

https://democracy.buckscc.gov.uk/mgEPetitionDisplay.aspx?ID=3282&RPID=81...$LO$=1 Signed it too..

422 signed at 2045 this evening.  Keep it up!

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don simon fbpe replied to grumpyoldcyclist | 7 years ago
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grumpyoldcyclist wrote:

For what it's worth I've just submitted a petition to the above council that they do everything they can to ensure that drivers of motorised, lethal vehicles look where they are going when on the council dual carriageways.

It has gone forward for review but I suspect it will be thrown out for being too logical.

 

Signed.

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Christopher TR1 | 7 years ago
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Van hits and kills cyclist from the rear and therefore some bright spark decides that the answer is to ban... cyclists. Well hows about a petition to ban fcuking vans?! How about ban all motorists from all dual carriageways while we're at it. And motorways. The whole road network. Now there would be a petition worth signing  1

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ChrisB200SX replied to Christopher TR1 | 7 years ago
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Christopher TR1 wrote:

Van hits and kills cyclist from the rear and therefore some bright spark decides that the answer is to ban... cyclists. Well hows about a petition to ban fcuking vans?!

Honestly, you just couldn't make it up.

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reliablemeatloaf | 7 years ago
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“It would be a shame for cyclists but they desperately need to do something to protect themselves from other road users."

How about the "other road users" open their friggin eyes, and how about the law enforcement and members of legislature do their jobs?

More victim blaming.

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