Near Miss of the Day 133: Breakfast-eating close pass driver fined

Cyclax Maximus wrote:

Six points would have been better and his rectal passage reamed out in a correctional facility. Still, what the mouthy chav got was better than nothing I suppose. Hope his cholesterol levels ramp up in good time.

Also, has anyone ever noticed that when you do have confrontations with knob head drivers, they're never ever apologetic or hold their hands up even if they are in the wrong. If they were half decent you would probably let it go in most instances.

Yes, lets all hope he gets raped. After all abhorent sexual violence is a fitting and civilised  punishment for a "chav".

Always depressing when the comments section slides into non-thinking prejudiced nonsense like this.

Cyclax Maximus wrote:

Six points would have been better and his rectal passage reamed out in a correctional facility. Still, what the mouthy chav got was better than nothing I suppose. Hope his cholesterol levels ramp up in good time.

Also, has anyone ever noticed that when you do have confrontations with knob head drivers, they're never ever apologetic or hold their hands up even if they are in the wrong. If they were half decent you would probably let it go in most instances.

Depends on how you engage them. I've had a few honest, friendly discussions - normally admittedly with older drivers/female drivers. Something along the lines of "that was way too close, you should give at least 4 feet gap when overtaking". If they're receptive at that point I give the practical advice that the best way they can judge that (for the average single carriageway) is that they should move out far enough so that they're over the white line

kil0ran wrote:

Cyclax Maximus wrote:

Six points would have been better and his rectal passage reamed out in a correctional facility. Still, what the mouthy chav got was better than nothing I suppose. Hope his cholesterol levels ramp up in good time.

Also, has anyone ever noticed that when you do have confrontations with knob head drivers, they're never ever apologetic or hold their hands up even if they are in the wrong. If they were half decent you would probably let it go in most instances.

Depends on how you engage them. I've had a few honest, friendly discussions - normally admittedly with older drivers/female drivers. Something along the lines of "that was way too close, you should give at least 4 feet gap when overtaking". If they're receptive at that point I give the practical advice that the best way they can judge that (for the average single carriageway) is that they should move out far enough so that they're over the white line

Totally agree regarding engagement. There are some decent types out there, I guess I just attract all the brain deads.

 The thing is with that I've found, is that they simply do not like being told how to drive any more than I like being told how to ride my bike.

Cyclax Maximus wrote:

kil0ran wrote:

Cyclax Maximus wrote:

Six points would have been better and his rectal passage reamed out in a correctional facility. Still, what the mouthy chav got was better than nothing I suppose. Hope his cholesterol levels ramp up in good time.

Also, has anyone ever noticed that when you do have confrontations with knob head drivers, they're never ever apologetic or hold their hands up even if they are in the wrong. If they were half decent you would probably let it go in most instances.

Depends on how you engage them. I've had a few honest, friendly discussions - normally admittedly with older drivers/female drivers. Something along the lines of "that was way too close, you should give at least 4 feet gap when overtaking". If they're receptive at that point I give the practical advice that the best way they can judge that (for the average single carriageway) is that they should move out far enough so that they're over the white line

 

Totally agree regarding engagement. There are some decent types out there, I guess I just attract all the brain deads.

 The thing is with that I've found, is that they simply do not like being told how to drive any more than I like being told how to ride my bike.

It's difficult when someone's just tried to kill you but I always try to put myself in their shoes - I'd probably end up being quite defensive/sweary if I was confronted by an 18st sweary beardy bloke fuelled on adrenaline. But yeah, some are just cokcs - the ones that really get me are the close passes only to turn off in a couple of hundred yards. I'm not exactly hanging about on the flats so it gains them nothing in return for risking my life.

kil0ran wrote:

It's difficult when someone's just tried to kill you ......

There are VERY few people out there trying to kill you, because those who do try, don't miss and usually manage it. This is part of the problem. It feels deliberate, but it most likely wasn't. Then you are angry because you were scared, and that sets the tone for the interaction to be confrontational. 

kil0ran wrote:

Cyclax Maximus wrote:

Six points would have been better and his rectal passage reamed out in a correctional facility. Still, what the mouthy chav got was better than nothing I suppose. Hope his cholesterol levels ramp up in good time.

Also, has anyone ever noticed that when you do have confrontations with knob head drivers, they're never ever apologetic or hold their hands up even if they are in the wrong. If they were half decent you would probably let it go in most instances.

Depends on how you engage them. I've had a few honest, friendly discussions - normally admittedly with older drivers/female drivers. Something along the lines of "that was way too close, you should give at least 4 feet gap when overtaking". If they're receptive at that point I give the practical advice that the best way they can judge that (for the average single carriageway) is that they should move out far enough so that they're over the white line

If the receptive reasonable ones are overtaking badly in the first place, that suggests there are some problems with driving instructors and testers.

burtthebike wrote:

Well done for catching him up and getting the evidence for the prosecution.  The usual crap from the driver, who quite obviously couldn't give a ****.

As zero trooper points out, given that this was two offences, why is the fine and points so low?  Oh sorry, I forgot, the really dangerous one only threatened the life of a cyclist.

If the investigating officer had issued an endorsable Fixed Penalty Notice on the evidence presented in the video, which I believe certain police officers can, then it would have been 3pts on their licence and a £100 fine. Albeit with no court costs. This would only have been for the close pass i.e. driving without reasonable consideration.

Hardly worth the effort of taking them to court 

balmybaldwin wrote:

So not prosecuted for the close pass then?  How is driving without hands on wheel whilst eating anything less than dangerous driving?

The driver was found guilty of driving without reasonable consideration 

That's your close pass

as well as not being in a position to have proper control

and that's your 'look, no hands'

Nice he was prosecuted, just a disappointment at the punishment. Feels like 2 offences, but only dealt with properly for 1. Maybe all the magistrates had rolled into a McD's drive-thru for their sausage and egg McMuffins on their way to court