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Resident claims "at least 100 cars" have blown their tyres on kerb separating cycle lane from road

Greater Cambridge Project says it is awaiting the results of a safety audit

A Cambridge resident has complained that a kerb built to separate a cycle lane from motor traffic is "an accident waiting to happen". The anonymous complainant claims that “at least 100 cars” have blown their tyres on it in just over three weeks.

Cambridge News reports that the cycle lane in question runs along Green End Road, but it is the kerb on the roundabout that connects Nuffield Road that is said to be causing problems.

The resident said the kerb was difficult for drivers to see, especially in the dark.

"In the past three and a half weeks at least 100 cars have blown their tyres on the kerb,” he said.

"The other day I saw an Audi hit the kerb and spin into oncoming traffic. That road is less than 100 feet from a school. It's an accident waiting to happen. It's crazy.

"The actual kerb has been broken because it's been hit so many times. Drivers are only hitting it at 20 or 30 mph.

"In the dark it's completely camouflaged. It's a black kerb on black tarmac. That's why drivers keep hitting it.

"There aren't any bollards or signs to say it's there so drivers don't see it."

A spokesman from the Greater Cambridge Project said: "We are delivering five Cross City Cycling schemes to make it easier and safer for people to cycle around Cambridge, helping to reduce congestion and improve air quality.

“We are awaiting the findings of a post-construction safety audit of the Green End Road scheme and will carry out any necessary work.”

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brogs | 5 years ago
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If you have an armco opposite the apex of an alpine descent to stop drivers going over the edge, would you remove it because too many people were hitting it? It's clearly doing its job.

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grumpyoldcyclist | 5 years ago
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Surely we must be up to a thousand by now, why aren't the mainstream media all over it, Martin Lewis offering guidance on compensation etc.?

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ktache | 5 years ago
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Perhaps if someone could set up a wabcam, bit of editing and it could be a hilarious as these rising bollard idiot crashes-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IELpd43PMvk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIas-5pwpZk

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zero_trooper | 5 years ago
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‘Drivers are only hitting it at 20-30mph’

Imagine the car-nage (pardon the pun) if they were driving any faster. How fast do they want to drive within 100m of a school, in a built up urban area, adjacent to (an invisible) cycle path, at a roundabout?!?

This is the problem with car driving in general. It’s a culture thing.

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srchar | 5 years ago
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SKIDSY 

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Judge dreadful | 5 years ago
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At least the dim witted motorists know when they are about to encroach on the cycle lane though. I say, install laser triggered machine guns as well.

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No Reply | 5 years ago
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All this tells me is that there are as many shit drivers in Cambridge as there are in Preston. Excuses, excuses, excuses. It's the blasted kerb, it's the cyclists, it's the tarmac. 

No. It's the drivers. Probably the same drivers who tell cyclists that they should be wearing hi-viz. No, it's the drivers responsibility to ensure their eyesight is of the standard needed to be handed the privilege of a driving license. It is not the responsibility of the council to ensure the kerbs are painted in day-glo pink, it is not the responsibility of cyclists to ensure they are lit up like a Christmas tree. It is the responsibility of the driver to ensure that THEY CAN SEE!!!!!

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StuInNorway | 5 years ago
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That kerb is not high enough to cause a proper puncture. . . 
I could easily ride over that in my car and it'd be fine, that's a lower edge than many of the UK speed hollows, erm, potholes, the kerbstone is also rounded on the top edges. If that's bursting tyres, the tyres were already defective.
More likly is cars flying around the roundabout too fast, scrubbinh their (most likely low profile) tyres against it as the car attempts to turn, and popping the tyre off the rim momentarily, letting the air out. I'd be interested to see the tyre dimensions and car types of these 100+ that have had their tyres "punctures" in the 3 week period.

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HoarseMann | 5 years ago
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It needs a bollard on the end, like a pedestrian island.

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Morat replied to HoarseMann | 5 years ago
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HoarseMann wrote:

It needs a bollard on the end, like a pedestrian island.

A bollard protected by landmines.

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TheBillder | 5 years ago
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In all seriousness, and it's difficult after seeing that Specsavers car crash... If the photo with the cargo bike is the spot, there ought to be more to warn of the kerb. Many drivers are either generally useless or not immune to lapses. They follow the car in front on the assumption that they don't need to think, and often drive in steady-state mode unless prompted to change. This looks like a small traffic island and needs a keep right arrow.

I know some will say that this shouldn't be needed, but until the revolution we need in driver training and car use reduction, we are where we are.

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CyclingInBeastMode replied to TheBillder | 5 years ago
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TheBillder wrote:

In all seriousness, and it's difficult after seeing that Specsavers car crash... If the photo with the cargo bike is the spot, there ought to be more to warn of the kerb. Many drivers are either generally useless or not immune to lapses. They follow the car in front on the assumption that they don't need to think, and often drive in steady-state mode unless prompted to change. This looks like a small traffic island and needs a keep right arrow. I know some will say that this shouldn't be needed, but until the revolution we need in driver training and car use reduction, we are where we are.

Pandering to the most useless in society who don't want to obey the law (criminals) and dumbing down driving even further is why we have the problem of needing segregation in the first place. Make the kerb on the outside/front taller and narrow the motor lane even more, either people will continue to crash into it (their own fault) OR they will slow down and drive within the law as it is written ... due care and attention, basically easy/simple stuff to adhere to.

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brakesmadly | 5 years ago
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It's working then.

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Philh68 | 5 years ago
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The complete absence of tyre marks in the photos accompanying the article has the needle on my bullshitometer wound right up. Nothing to see here folks, just another passive aggressive cyclist hater trying to make themselves important.

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Vlad the Impailer | 5 years ago
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Maybe if the drunken and drugged up little joy riding t**ts were not burning rubber in a nicked Fiesta then they wouldn't be bursting their tyres.

But they dont care as its not their car anyway and their too drunk/drugged to care.

If that many cars had really burst 100 tyres in less than a week - dont you think it would have been all over National News.

Over exageration as normal to someone who now has an issue that he cant park outside his house - probaly the same moron who places notices on Ambulance's not to park outside his house.

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Hirsute | 5 years ago
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How does he know it is 100 cars?
Perhaps instead of watching behind net curtains, he could stand on the kerb in the style of a TdF Marshall waving a yellow flag.

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grumpyoldcyclist | 5 years ago
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Better to hit kerbs rather than cyclists I think, well done the council.

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demonkarlos | 5 years ago
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My car has lights fitted. These 'lights' allow me to see the kerb in the dark.

I'm amazed they don't fit lights to cars in Cambridge.

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growingvegtables | 5 years ago
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Not at all sure a cycle-provision "safety audit" is in order?

 

Just perhaps ... a "driver audit" might be more worth worthwhile?

 

Hey ... in these times of austerity, maybe the council could link up with Specsavers?  

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bedeabc | 5 years ago
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Similar things albeit with incredibly obvious reflective bollards have recently been installed in Oxford near the hospital, and drivers still manage to crash into them. I was a few feet away from a vehicle colliding with one on a recent commute, and the exploding tyre was LOUD.

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zero_trooper replied to bedeabc | 5 years ago
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bedeabc wrote:

Similar things albeit with incredibly obvious reflective bollards have recently been installed in Oxford near the hospital, and drivers still manage to crash into them. I was a few feet away from a vehicle colliding with one on a recent commute, and the exploding tyre was LOUD.

Hey bedeabc, your first post and hit the nail on the head!

Chapeau!

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Sriracha | 5 years ago
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"The other day I saw an Audi hit the kerb and spin into oncoming traffic. That road is less than 100 feet from a school. It's an accident waiting to happen."

And the complainant does not see the irony here?
You have to be going at a decent lick to spin a car by contacting the kerb. If Audi drivers within 30m of a school can not moderate their speed enough to reliably discern the edge of the road then maybe they need to be curbed.

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Awavey | 5 years ago
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I suspect they arent talking about the colour of the kerb stone as black but rather as from the image on Cambridgeshire live the "killer kerb" (and they use that label) to them is the whole separator thing itself which is like kerbing stones surrounding a lozenge of black tarmac and drivers arent seeing the lozenge of black tarmac as it's the same colour as the road and the kerbing is actually fairly low, no doubt as a higher kerb would have been thought to cause more damage for cars driving into it...I've seen examples where they used bollards on that kind of setup,vehicles just drive into the bollards instead

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john.berry replied to Awavey | 5 years ago
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Awavey wrote:

Cambridgeshire live the "killer kerb" (and they use that label)

For refernece here is a link to the article https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/killer-cycle-path-k...

Seams to me that the drivers should be a little more carefull, what if a cyclist was there? would they say sorry I didn't see you?

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tourdelound | 5 years ago
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Really? Should have gone to Specsavers...

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Awavey replied to tourdelound | 5 years ago
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tourdelound wrote:

Really? Should have gone to Specsavers...

At that angle in daylight yes, in a car or truck I bet it can appear to optically merge into the road and look at first glance to be simply an extension of the road markings at that point and not a raised part of the road

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Sriracha replied to Awavey | 5 years ago
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Awavey wrote:
tourdelound wrote:

Really? Should have gone to Specsavers...

At that angle in daylight yes, in a car or truck I bet it can appear to optically merge into the road and look at first glance to be simply an extension of the road markings at that point and not a raised part of the road

Yeah, and with the cycle lane symbol and all, so they must have assumed it was ok to just drive on over it regardless.

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tourdelound replied to tourdelound | 5 years ago
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tourdelound wrote:

Really? Should have gone to Specsavers...

Or maybe not?

 

 

 

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spen | 5 years ago
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A car hits a kerb at 20 - 30 mph hits a kerb and spins across the road.  Pull the other one!

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Awavey replied to spen | 5 years ago
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spen wrote:

A car hits a kerb at 20 - 30 mph hits a kerb and spins across the road.  Pull the other one!

Spins I agree I doubt it,but almost certainly if you hit it at 20/30mph your steering would shift considerably in a direction you werent expecting and you would end up as a result maybe not pointing the way you were going

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