It won't go away, this one: Emma Way has been back on the BBC to tell her side of the story. Meanwhile the cycling community continues to reclaim the #bloodycyclists hashtag with a new website set up in its honour.
Not surprisingly to anyone who's been in a collision with a vehicle that's been taken further, Emma's position (outlined through her solicitor, Simon Nicholls) is that her driving wasn't at fault, and that Toby Hockley, the cyclist, was the one who hit her.
Nicholls said "All the way through, Emma has said, 'it wasn't my driving that was at fault. It was the cyclist who clipped my mirror, not the other way round'."
We don't remember her saying that all the way through, although obviously it's the most sensible position for her to take should the case come to be heard. Effectively here it's the word of one party against the other, although the presence of other cyclists will likely give at least one other credible witness of the incident. Hockley's position, when he spoke to us, that he was descending on a blind corner and keeping to his side of the road. Short of a forensic examination of the tarmac – and we don't think that's very likely – it would boil down to the witness statements.
As for the the failure to stop? "I did stop", Emma says in the interview. "I don't know what the point is that I didn't stop. I stopped, looked in my rear, I assessed the situation and I saw that there was no need to stop. If he'd wobbled and gone to the side there's no way I would have driven off."
The law here is clear, and Emma's actions don't meet its requirements. Section 170 of the Road Traffic Act (1988) states that in any case where injury or damage is caused by a collision, "The driver of the vehicle must stop and, if required to do so by any person having reasonable grounds for so requiring, give his name and address and also the name and address of the owner and the identification marks of the vehicle". Since we know that the cyclist was both injured and his bike damaged (albeit neither seriously), to drive away is to commit an offence unless the driver then reports the incident. So whether Ms Way is guilty of committing the offence of leaving the scene of an accident is largely down to whether she reported the incident or not. It would certainly be ironic if the twitter outcry meant that she did in fact comply, although obviously without it it's likely the incident would never have been reported, since she didn't stop to exchange details.
Ms Way's solicitor was at pains to outline how bad it's been for Emma since her fateful tweet. "For poor old Emma's sake, she spent the first few days knocked from pillar to post by people saying things about her, national newspapers turning up on her doorstep, and the simple and unequivocal fact is that she felt it was about time she started kicking back a bit; not about the tweet which she's always accepted she was completely wrong to have done, but about the suggestion that she was driving badly because she's always said that she wasn't"
"I've had people drive past me and shout 'killer cyclist' [sic] when it's not the case at all", Emma added. "No-one's heard my story until now. People shouldn't just judge me when all they've seen is a stupid tweet that I made and then the other guy's side of the story. The real side of the story just isn't what it's been portrayed as."
She added, "I don't have a negative attitude towards cyclists. I cycle round myself."
As has been consistently the case in media interviews, Ms Way's assertion in her tweet that she has 'right of way' over a cyclist and cyclists 'don't pay road tax' were not touched upon.
The cyclist involved, Toby Hockley, has also been interviewed, by ITV News. "I was very surprised she didn't stop", he said of the incident. "I hit her car fairly hard. As you can see I'm not a not a small guy. If you hit me with a car, you're going to know about it."
"I was just grateful I was okay", he continued. "A lot of cyclists come off an awful lot worse in these situations. Being in one piece, and being able to finish the ride... I just considered myself lucky"
Asked about the tweet, and its aftermath, Hockley said, "Well I'm glad she's remorseful. I would very much liked her to stop after any sort of collision to make sure the person was all right . She claimed she didn't see me; I could have been a child. I could have been a walker - anyone. That's all the more reason to stop and check . I'm sorry she's in trouble with her employers and I feel very bad for her employers that have done a lot of good for sport in Norwich and I hope their image hasn't been tarnished out of all this."
He wouldn't be drawn on what he thought should happen to Ms Way, saying that it was a matter for the Police, the CPS and her employers.
Meanwhile, efforts to reclaim the #bloodycyclists hashtag continue apace, with the creation of www.bloodycyclist.com. "This page has been created in the aftermath and media frenzy created by the recent collision between a Motorist and a cyclist (Toby Hockley) on a small country road in Norfolk on Sunday 19th May", the site begins. "After the collision the motorist made what can only be described as an ill advised tweet almost boasting of the fact that she had knocked down a cyclist and ended the tweet with #bloodycyclists."
"We have lots of plans that we will roll out over the coming days but our main hope is that we can raise some awareness and money for some of the dangers that face cyclists on a daily occurrence."
The site currently features some thoughts from Toby himself (who's been fairly pragmatic about the whole thing throughout), and a quick precis of the 'road tax' situation via www.ipayroadtax.com.
There's lots of other stuff knocking about too. Here's a little skiffle song immortalising the incident, from twitter user @Miskhills:
And here's @VexedVeloist's take on the original interview, with subtitles
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'I stopped looked back assessed the situation'
'I didnt feel any need to stop'
Contradiction RIGHT there in black and white
Prejudicing the course of justice i think they call it
LIAR! LIES LIES AND MORE LIES!
Remember the more lies you tell,the more you have to construct to cover your feeble story
And this moron is still in gainful employment?
my god,and theres good people languishing on the dole while 20 year old numbskulls like this are laying waste to everything in their path
Apparently, she's a roadcc reader as well, plays Fantasy Cycling and is Gkam's girlfriend.
Who's let slip....now I'm going to get the backlash aswell??
themartincox wrote:
GKam really is quiet on this subject, perhaps they really are an item?
I am rather quiet, I really couldn't care anymore.
As I said on the forum
"I think she is getting a slight hard time for what has happened. Threats, maybe losing her job.
She needs a lesson in social media and PR, like getting rid of that solicitor (who's most likely doing it to further his career in the limelight)
But as no-one but her and the cyclist know what really happened and his story is dodgy at best....He landed on the bonnet and then in the hedge, but was still upright on his bike....
Leave her alone now and let it serve as a nice lesson to others"
Apparently, she's a roadcc reader as well, plays Fantasy Cycling and is Gkam's girlfriend.
Who's let slip....now I'm going to get the backlash aswell??
themartincox wrote:
GKam really is quiet on this subject, perhaps they really are an item?
I am rather quiet, I really couldn't care anymore.
As I said on the forum
"I think she is getting a slight hard time for what has happened. Threats, maybe losing her job.
She needs a lesson in social media and PR, like getting rid of that solicitor (who's most likely doing it to further his career in the limelight)
But as no-one but her and the cyclist know what really happened and his story is dodgy at best....He landed on the bonnet and then in the hedge, but was still upright on his bike....
Leave her alone now and let it serve as a nice lesson to others"
'Like'
Well said, give her a break, the cyclist hasn't been killed or seriously injured, she has been made to look an idiot in front of the national press.
Before some of you combust in a froth of car driver rage just think how some of your comments on this thread would look if they were to be published in the media and given a media 'spin'.
With you on that one. This will backfire on people who ride bikes (I rather say that than 'cyclist' as we are all people first). I think we are all angry about this, but lets not get aggressive, doesnt help in the slightest.
Leave her alone now and let it serve as a nice lesson to others"[/quote]
[[[[[ Gkam84---if she gets away without appearing in a court of law, then yes, the incident will indeed "serve as a nice lesson to others", namely that reckless drivers will continue to get away with their recklessness....
P.R.
Who's paying for the solicitor? Hasn't she been suspended? Is it a "no win, no fee" or has he just taken the opportunity for TV exposure? That is after all the raison d'etre for most folk these days.
Pity the interviewers aren't questioning why she Tweeted (did she do it while the car was moving), why there are tweets of her speedo at 95mph and her other tweets while supposedly in control of a weapon, sorry, car.
I feel the general media are backing her through poor, none investigative journalism.
I've just had an idea. Why don't we get Miss Emma Way to knock over #bloodycyclists like Daniel Da Luca and anyone else who tests positive for PEDs? It could be the new form of punishment instead of a pathetically short ban.
Miskhills's and VexedVeloist's take on things are superb. Isn't the internet a wonderful thing?
Unless you're a fantastically small-brained arrogant fool who has somehow managed to convince yourself that boasting on a popular social media site about what could have been a serious road accident, thereby indicting yourself and initiating what is commonly referred to as a 'media shit storm' is a good idea. But then who would do that?
I was about to post about the solicitor and have been amused by the interest in his sartorial choices. This is of course of absolutely no relevance to the matter, and I am no paragon of style myself, but that thick pinstripe blazer is particularly nasty.
This is incredibly easy for me to say through an internet forum but if she had instantly owned up and apologised properly, for the actual incident, she could have saved herself a lot of time and solicitor's fees (apparently spent with poor taste). OR...she could have not knocked a cyclist off his bike and then tweeted about it. But then we wouldn't have a story.
"Solicitor looks a right knob" not really, however he hasn't grasped the idea that you don't miss stripes and checks. The fact he's with her is just a wonderfull indication of her guilt.
As much fun as it is to watch her get mauled we all know the Police and CPS won't do a thing.
I wonder if that other fat chew toy, James Martin is cracking one off to her video given it must tick so many of his boxes? that alone is a worthy punishment.
That's true, but she's the one intent on becoming a TV celebrity. The cyclist hasn't chased the shoulder-to-cry-on media exposure.
He hasn't needed to because, whether he wanted or not, 100s of people with differing levels of good intent and grasp of reason have taken it up on his behalf, in the process projecting their experiences, prejudices and agendas onto the whole thing. So what we have now is not Emma Way vs Toby Hockley, we have 'poor old Emma vs' a foaming mouthed internet rabble baying for anything from a driving ban, dismissal from her job to, shamefully, her death.
the people are pursuing the villification of this woman so relentlessly are in real danger of destroying whatever public opinion might exist in favour of the cyclist. It might help matters if they just wound it back and let the parties involved sort it out. If she is as vacuous as it appears then she'll continue to dig herself in deeper and the truth will out. Carry on like this and people will start to feel sorry for her - if they don't already.
Very true, but I don't see Tony being given the opportunity to defend himself every night on the TV with a suited brief coming out with such sentiments as "poor old Tony, he could have been badly hurt", or "he's always a careful cyclist". There HAS been a shift in the reporting over the last 48 hours and very clearly Ms Wray's solicitor has briefed her on what to say and how to respond (just watch the body language) and they are clearly trying to portray her as the "victim". In addition her lawyer isn't going to let her say anything to anyone about this without him vetting it first
As an aside, given the decision about Sally Bercow's tweets being deemed libellous in the High Court this morning, could Ms Wray's other tweets implying other inappropriate driving come back to haunt her if this ever did go to court
After being involved in a collision with a car where the driver was clearly at fault, I learned that the Police will only prosecute if the cyclist suffers any broken bones. She's going to get off with a warning and the cost of her blazer-wearing brief.
Hopefully, Toby has British Cycling membership as he will be entitled to legal support and can raise a civil claim against Ms.Way, even if it is just for replacement of any damaged clothing or bicycle parts.
Love the awkward 'David Brent' glance to the camera at the end of the TV interview. Shame the TV presenter didn't bother to question her new version of events or the inconsistencies in her changing story.
That lawyer has so obviously got his hand up a*se and speaking without moving his lips. I believe this to be no more than damage limitation, instigated by her lawyer.
But Emma, which is it: 'I did stop' or 'there was no need to stop'?
The crime here isn't necessarily that she crossed the white line (if she did) albeit that is careless but not unusual on quiet country roads sadly. Lets be honest, both drivers and cyclists push the limits sometimes. It's the failure to at least enquire whether the other party was injured (she acknowledges he 'clipped' her mirror in the interview and tweeted she 'definitely knocked a cyclist off his bike').
It saddens me that this airhead felt the need to broadcast the whole sorry affair to her 'followers' on Twitter. What sort of pitiful, unfulfilling, facile existence is that? #andiwaslikeOMG
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'I cycle round myself'
impressive skills.
Miss Way's is just the sort of story Max Clifford would be all over like a rash if he wasn't being done for interfering with minors.
'I stopped looked back assessed the situation'
'I didnt feel any need to stop'
Contradiction RIGHT there in black and white
Prejudicing the course of justice i think they call it
LIAR! LIES LIES AND MORE LIES!
Remember the more lies you tell,the more you have to construct to cover your feeble story
And this moron is still in gainful employment?
my god,and theres good people languishing on the dole while 20 year old numbskulls like this are laying waste to everything in their path
sickness
GKam really is quiet on this subject, perhaps they really are an item?
Who's let slip....now I'm going to get the backlash aswell??
I am rather quiet, I really couldn't care anymore.
As I said on the forum
"I think she is getting a slight hard time for what has happened. Threats, maybe losing her job.
She needs a lesson in social media and PR, like getting rid of that solicitor (who's most likely doing it to further his career in the limelight)
But as no-one but her and the cyclist know what really happened and his story is dodgy at best....He landed on the bonnet and then in the hedge, but was still upright on his bike....
Leave her alone now and let it serve as a nice lesson to others"
'Like'
Well said, give her a break, the cyclist hasn't been killed or seriously injured, she has been made to look an idiot in front of the national press.
Before some of you combust in a froth of car driver rage just think how some of your comments on this thread would look if they were to be published in the media and given a media 'spin'.
With you on that one. This will backfire on people who ride bikes (I rather say that than 'cyclist' as we are all people first). I think we are all angry about this, but lets not get aggressive, doesnt help in the slightest.
Leave her alone now and let it serve as a nice lesson to others"[/quote]
[[[[[ Gkam84---if she gets away without appearing in a court of law, then yes, the incident will indeed "serve as a nice lesson to others", namely that reckless drivers will continue to get away with their recklessness....
P.R.
Who's paying for the solicitor? Hasn't she been suspended? Is it a "no win, no fee" or has he just taken the opportunity for TV exposure? That is after all the raison d'etre for most folk these days.
Pity the interviewers aren't questioning why she Tweeted (did she do it while the car was moving), why there are tweets of her speedo at 95mph and her other tweets while supposedly in control of a weapon, sorry, car.
I feel the general media are backing her through poor, none investigative journalism.
I've just had an idea. Why don't we get Miss Emma Way to knock over #bloodycyclists like Daniel Da Luca and anyone else who tests positive for PEDs? It could be the new form of punishment instead of a pathetically short ban.
I could see this working....
Callous self centred lying fucking bitch
Oh poor Emma her brief opines boo fucking HOO!
She could care less if the poor cyclist had been killed,its clear her heartless demeanor would be exactly the same if a fatality occurred
Its all about HER distress and inconvenience,not an ounce of forgiveness or remorse for the cyclist
Shes a piece of fucking shit end of story
If she ends up in a serious RTA tough shit,i wont be shedding any tears for the useless fucking wretch
Petulant little brat
Not sure Daddy and his solicitor can buy your way out of this one Miss Way
Hmmm.
Through various accounts, mostly on here I have to say there has been a lot of contradictory quotes.
'he clipped me and he wobbled'
'she was half way over the other side of the road'
and correct me if I'm worng but I also saw 'the bike went up and over the bonnet before depositing the cyclist in the nettles'.
Miskhills's and VexedVeloist's take on things are superb. Isn't the internet a wonderful thing?
Unless you're a fantastically small-brained arrogant fool who has somehow managed to convince yourself that boasting on a popular social media site about what could have been a serious road accident, thereby indicting yourself and initiating what is commonly referred to as a 'media shit storm' is a good idea. But then who would do that?
The BBC has done some poor interviews but this really takes the biscuit.
I was about to post about the solicitor and have been amused by the interest in his sartorial choices. This is of course of absolutely no relevance to the matter, and I am no paragon of style myself, but that thick pinstripe blazer is particularly nasty.
This is incredibly easy for me to say through an internet forum but if she had instantly owned up and apologised properly, for the actual incident, she could have saved herself a lot of time and solicitor's fees (apparently spent with poor taste). OR...she could have not knocked a cyclist off his bike and then tweeted about it. But then we wouldn't have a story.
"Solicitor looks a right knob" not really, however he hasn't grasped the idea that you don't miss stripes and checks. The fact he's with her is just a wonderfull indication of her guilt.
As much fun as it is to watch her get mauled we all know the Police and CPS won't do a thing.
I wonder if that other fat chew toy, James Martin is cracking one off to her video given it must tick so many of his boxes? that alone is a worthy punishment.
Well, people can appeal her sentencing within 2 weeks if they consider it too lenient.
@joemmo
That's true, but she's the one intent on becoming a TV celebrity. The cyclist hasn't chased the shoulder-to-cry-on media exposure.
He hasn't needed to because, whether he wanted or not, 100s of people with differing levels of good intent and grasp of reason have taken it up on his behalf, in the process projecting their experiences, prejudices and agendas onto the whole thing. So what we have now is not Emma Way vs Toby Hockley, we have 'poor old Emma vs' a foaming mouthed internet rabble baying for anything from a driving ban, dismissal from her job to, shamefully, her death.
Doesn't bode well does it?
Is she going to sue Toby Hockley for the damage to her wing mirror?
the people are pursuing the villification of this woman so relentlessly are in real danger of destroying whatever public opinion might exist in favour of the cyclist. It might help matters if they just wound it back and let the parties involved sort it out. If she is as vacuous as it appears then she'll continue to dig herself in deeper and the truth will out. Carry on like this and people will start to feel sorry for her - if they don't already.
Very true, but I don't see Tony being given the opportunity to defend himself every night on the TV with a suited brief coming out with such sentiments as "poor old Tony, he could have been badly hurt", or "he's always a careful cyclist". There HAS been a shift in the reporting over the last 48 hours and very clearly Ms Wray's solicitor has briefed her on what to say and how to respond (just watch the body language) and they are clearly trying to portray her as the "victim". In addition her lawyer isn't going to let her say anything to anyone about this without him vetting it first
As an aside, given the decision about Sally Bercow's tweets being deemed libellous in the High Court this morning, could Ms Wray's other tweets implying other inappropriate driving come back to haunt her if this ever did go to court
After being involved in a collision with a car where the driver was clearly at fault, I learned that the Police will only prosecute if the cyclist suffers any broken bones. She's going to get off with a warning and the cost of her blazer-wearing brief.
Hopefully, Toby has British Cycling membership as he will be entitled to legal support and can raise a civil claim against Ms.Way, even if it is just for replacement of any damaged clothing or bicycle parts.
Ooh, goody. Someone just volunteered to become the internet's favourite chewtoy. Woof.
Fella that has just made me piss myself laughing!...
Genius. After so much on here making me this has just made me
Astonishing - the cyclist was at fault
Love the awkward 'David Brent' glance to the camera at the end of the TV interview. Shame the TV presenter didn't bother to question her new version of events or the inconsistencies in her changing story.
That lawyer has so obviously got his hand up a*se and speaking without moving his lips. I believe this to be no more than damage limitation, instigated by her lawyer.
But Emma, which is it: 'I did stop' or 'there was no need to stop'?
The crime here isn't necessarily that she crossed the white line (if she did) albeit that is careless but not unusual on quiet country roads sadly. Lets be honest, both drivers and cyclists push the limits sometimes. It's the failure to at least enquire whether the other party was injured (she acknowledges he 'clipped' her mirror in the interview and tweeted she 'definitely knocked a cyclist off his bike').
It saddens me that this airhead felt the need to broadcast the whole sorry affair to her 'followers' on Twitter. What sort of pitiful, unfulfilling, facile existence is that? #andiwaslikeOMG
...rant over
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