Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.
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The incident happned in Hove, which is not in West Sussex. There are 2 separate cycle schemes on the same road (which do not join up!). The West Sussex section is being scrapped for no good reason.
No plans to scrap the section which is in Brighton & Hove, as far as I am aware.
Apologies for this, story amended.
I'm confused. Was the white van driver driving a car, or what? And she fell on her side but her side (apparently) didn't hit the floor?
Strange.
I was hit from behind when sitting on my motorcycle at a red light by a driver whose explanation was "I thought the light was going to turn green" (!) - I went down on my left knee and hip but managed to get the bike back up without sprawling across the road, didn't make it any less scary.
"Am I really the first commenter in this thread to ask if she was wearing hi-vis? I don't wear a helmet either, but always put a hi-vis vest on. On Brighton's roads I'd rather look a tw4t than not be seen at all for precisely this reason."
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Was the van driver wearing glasses?
Van driver or car driver? Who knows?
Another one that made me laff:-
Them bastard invisible cyclists who only turn visible to be disrespectful to a funeral cortege.
OSR cult cyclist - wtf's that?
One Sided Rule
Oh Shit Run
Old School Rules
(I think they mean Old Shoreham Road - maybe the cult is naked photography and semi naked sunbathing)
The first few pages of google results are all D&D campaigns...
Just don't look too closely at the fork.....
one more of the acceptable reasons to slow traffic down, unlike avoiding the risk of turning living cyclists into dead ones.
Where n earth do these people get their ideas? Drivers apparently aren't able to see normal people, they can only see tw4ts.....
Daily Mail comment, "This is what happens when you introduce cycle scheme without consultation" - 'cos if the van driver had been consulted he would have obeyed the Highway Code?
I don't wear a helmet either
I hesitate to start this one again, but this stance is incomprehensible to at least some of us. Despite being aware of the risk, and taking care, I went down hard on my right side due to ice up on Beacon Fell, Lancashire, on Christmas Eve. Straight down onto hip and shoulder, which must have taken almost all the hit, but I must have bashed my head a bit because the first thing I remember afterwards was saying to someone who must have come up to me: I'll just walk down this bit. I don't remember actually getting up- that's Traumatic Brain Injury. Other injuries pretty painful, and it took me over 3 weeks to recover fully.
It's not their fault that you don't comprehend something.
Or mine, that you don't.
Nonsense.
People don't remember all sorts mundane and immemorable tasks.
I've had two TBIs from cars colliding with me. The latter I was totally unconscious for a while. I remember getting up very clearly and the immediate aftermath of both clear as day.
Not remembering something doesn't mean you've suffered a brain injury.
I've had two TBIs from cars colliding with me.
Unfortunately, it appears they have affected your critical faculties and your insight. It's your 'nonsense', sadly, that is nonsense. In the bad old days of crappy Bond books, and other tripe fiction, people would be hit over the head, be unconscious for a while and then get back into action saying it 'was only a bit of concussion'. Now we know better- bashes to the brain don't do it any good; people don't lose consciousness or fail to remember things immediately after heading footballs, but do it a lot and trouble is heading your way. There are degrees of TBI. Wise people take reasonable steps to reduce their chances.
Not sure what the nonsense here is, sounds like pretty textbook concussion, which is about all I'd expect a helmet to protect me from, maybe also a grazed ear.
[/quote] Nonsense. People don't remember all sorts mundane and immemorable tasks. I've had two TBIs from cars colliding with me. The latter I was totally unconscious for a while. I remember getting up very clearly and the immediate aftermath of both clear as day. Not remembering something doesn't mean you've suffered a brain injury.[/quote]
Somewhat solipsistic, just because it's your experience doesn't mean it's everybody's. I was knocked out in a rugby game once and the next thing I remember was being in an ambulance; subsequent enquiry revealed I got up almost straight away, insisted I was OK, played the last twenty minutes and then keeled over in the changing room. Can't remember a thing about it.
If you are of the opinion that your brain would not have been affected by your skull hitting the ground unprotected, rather than this helmet taking the hit, you may be more right than you think.
Are you sure you ever recovered?
I mean, by your own admission you can't comprehend a very simple personal choice that someone has made.
It appears that you could still be suffering that brain injury you seem to have self-diagnosed.
It appears that you could still be suffering that brain injury you seem to have self-diagnosed.
You mean the one you say I didn't have?
This particular rider wasn't mountainbiking, and didn't fall off. They were hit and knocked off by an inattentive driver. This could also happen to pedestrians - in fact extrapolating from casualty figures many more people get hit when walking than riding. And of course, many more people still are injured in cars.
Any rational view of wearing lids would review the environment in association with the activity, and therefore if you are engaging any activity around cars, you "should" wear a lid.
Personally I always do wear a lid whilst riding - even when riding up and down my drive to check brakes/gears, but that's merely habit, and I'm not about to pretend that I'm always taking a rational/moral/considered decision in doing so.
Last of all, my understanding is that lids do not provide protection against concussive brain injury. I'm not going to plant my flag on this per se, but this might be worth a read