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Viral video déjà vu as taxi driver doesn't wait for child cycling near school; Your N+1 tales — is there one bike to do it all?; Tadej Pogačar — the off-season rapper; How to carry pizza by bike + more on the live blog

Happy Friday! It's a chilly December morning so stay inside by the live blog fire... Dan Alexander is chopping up wood as we speak.....

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02 December 2022, 11:37
Viral video déjà vu as taxi driver doesn't wait for child cycling near school

We've been here before...

Viral video debated on Jeremy Vine show (screenshot Twitter video/ @azb2019)

> Viral video of driver refusing to stop for five-year-old cyclist debated on Jeremy Vine's Channel 5 show

Different father, different child, different driver, different road, but strikingly similar footage...

One difference, as heard in the video, is that this road is — our Google Maps digging suggests, Leahurst Road in Lewisham — a school street which should not be accessed by motorists without a permit during school drop-off and pick-up times.

The idea being that banning drivers reduces pollution, encourages active travel and makes the school gates and surrounding area a generally more pleasant and less dangerous place.

As per Lewisham Council this site is ANPR camera enforced, so this cabbie may well have just landed a ticket for their troubles, and should not be driven along (without a permit) between the hours of 8.15-9.15am and 2.45-3.45pm.

And while "residents who live within the zone, emergency services, buses and those who have been granted an exemption permit are permitted to enter"... Lewisham Council says nothing about private hire vehicles...unless the passenger "holds a Blue Badge as either a parent/carer or your child holds a Blue Badge and attends the school" or it is a Special Educational Needs (SEN) Transport vehicle. 

If your déjà vu's yet to lift and your brain remains fogged you might remember this same site from ANOTHER recent live blog video...

Driver mounts pavement and chastises child for riding on same footpath (Greg N, Twitter)

> Driver – in untaxed car with expired MOT – mounts pavement on wrong side of the road… then chastises six-year-old for cycling on same footpath

I need a lie down after all of that.

02 December 2022, 17:26
Blast from the past...

With this vid doing the rounds on social media again it's probably worth linking you the full thing courtesy of... the June 2021 live blog... you're welcome!

02 December 2022, 16:41
Herne Hill Velodrome receives $200,000 from Rapha Foundation
Herne Hill Velodrome (Rapha press release)

Herne Hill Velodrome in south London will receive a $200,000 grant from the Rapha Foundation to increase the availbaility of its off-road facilities, including the employment of an off-road development officer.

Tim McInnes, chair of Herne Hill Velodrome Trust said: "Herne Hill Velodrome is delighted to receive this grant from the Rapha Foundation. It complements the Foundation's first award made to us in 2019, and it will allow us to extend our cycling development activity in exciting ways including into off-road riding for the first time."

The Rapha Foundation, founded in 2019, funds more than 20 organisations around the world committed to inspiring the next generation of riders and racers from under-represented communities, and invests $1.5 million per year in grassroots activities.

02 December 2022, 16:18
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02 December 2022, 15:23
If the World Cup was pro cycling: Poland vs France & USA vs Netherlands

Forgive me for failing to find any Procyclingstats evidence of a Uruguayan pro battling a Ghanaian up an epic climb, a Portuguese TT specialist cutting through the wind faster than a South Korean, a Brazilian sprinter pipping a Cameroonian rival or a Serbian domestique leading out his Swiss teammate...

With tomorrow marking the start of the knockout stage, however, we have fresh ammunition for the weekend ahead: USA vs Netherlands and Poland vs France — and boy do we have some classics...

In fact quite a few of Michał Kwiatkowski's biggest wins have come at the expense of the French... this year's Amstel Gold...

World Cup pro cycling (procyclingstats)

San Sebastián in 2017...

World Cup pro cycling (procyclingstats)

And as for United States against the Netherlands? It could only be Sepp Kuss and his band of Dutch friends...

World Cup pro cycling (procyclingstats)

But what's that? Even better... a last-minute entrant... the women's elite TT at the Yorkshire worlds...

World Cup pro cycling (procyclingstats)

You heard it here first: 2-2 AET. Penalties to follow...

02 December 2022, 14:43
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02 December 2022, 14:21
"She is one incredible human being": Laura Kenny hails fellow track star Katie Archibald
Laura Kenny and Katie Archibald win Madison gold in Tokyo (Copyright Alex Broadway, SWpix.com).JPG

Laura Kenny has given a glowing tribute to Katie Archibald, saying it is "incredible" how her fellow track star has maintained sporting success despite personal grief. Speaking to the BBC ahead of this weekend's UCI Track Champions League in London, Kenny said Archibald is "one incredible human being".

Back in August Archibald revealed she had attempted to save her partner Rab Wardell's life after the Scottish mountain biker suffered a cardiac arrest. Since then she was part of the Great Britain squad that won World Championship team pursuit silver and has achieved success in the Champions League, sitting one point behind American Jennifer Valente in the women's endurance standings.

> "It's quite painful to say": Katie Archibald thanks fans for support since death of partner Rab Wardell

"If I lost Jase [husband Sir Jason Kenny] or my somebody, I don't know how I would carry on," Kenny said. "I know she says cycling is her carrying on, but if that happened to me I don't know how I would get a leg over a bike, let alone be able to perform at the level she's performing at.

"It's like when I said that bike racing is a happy space, but still, to be able to commit to it, to train that hard and put yourself through that much pain to be going so well, I think she is phenomenal, I really do. I don't think I could do that after everything she's gone through."

02 December 2022, 13:27
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02 December 2022, 12:17
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02 December 2022, 10:35
If British Cycling designed cycle lanes...

 

02 December 2022, 08:59
Your N+1 tales — is there one bike to do it all?

Yesterday, tech editor Mat took a look at Ridley's new Grifn all-road bike — that's a fast, comfortable road bike with 38mm tyre clearance for off-roading — and asked if it could put an end to N+1?

2023 Ridley Grifn Shimano GRX - 1 (1)

> Does Ridley’s new Grifn all-road bike really put an end to N+1?

So, here's what you said... 

Miller: "This looks great. At the start of the year I built a bike of similar concept for myself and I've loved riding it.

Reader bike (Miller)

"It has 40mm tyre clearance so I've been able to swap in knobbly tyres for gravel events although I've mainly run 34mm Pro One road rubber. I think the one bike concept is valid especially with a second pair of wheels. That said... I have more than one bike. Well why wouldn't you?!" 

kil0ran: "Nope, the Domane did that a couple of years ago. And it's more versatile than this in terms of tyre clearance."

IanMSpencer: "The trouble is you end up with N+2 wheels as you want different tyres on different days."

OnYerBike: "If it puts an end to N+1, why are Ridley still selling no fewer than 15 other models?" 

Remember, it only puts an end to N+1 if you want it to...

02 December 2022, 10:01
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02 December 2022, 09:38
Tadej Pogačar — the off-season rapper

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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chrisonabike replied to chrisonabike | 2 years ago
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Major distributor road?  Should have separate cycle track anyway!  No problems at all here!  (see also the original example - suburban, on the edge of Gouda).

In terms of traffic volume this one is maybe most like the UK case - which probably reflects the UK confusion of "types of road" which try to do too many things (it's a place / destination, it's a major through road, people live on it, it connects other major roads...) as opposed to the Dutch principle of monofunctional roads.  In the Dutch example (Gouda still) if it's a really busy road it might not even have cycling infra - cycling access is catered for elsewhere (and is more direct - like shown here) so we don't even need to worry!

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.022736,4.683775,3a,75y,355.41h,86.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNaZvoQL6XFy3B-RB4xxQQA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

 

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andystow replied to Awavey | 2 years ago
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Why do petrol stations need to be on the other side of the cycle path and pavement anyway? They're car infrastructure. Just put occasional petrol pumps on small islands, and drivers can stop in the travel lane to refuel. Other motorists will wait patiently behind them for the few minutes this takes, and nobody else will be endangered.

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chrisonabike replied to andystow | 2 years ago
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Like a marathon or a cycle race - you could call them... fuel stations?  We could create extra employment and speed the process by having people just handing over a bag with a fuel can in it.  That and contactless payment and the motorists would only need to slow down, not stop!

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Backladder replied to chrisonabike | 2 years ago
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In a few years time it will be "50KWh bag of electrons please" or stopping in the travel lane for 90 minutes for a recharge. 

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Steve K | 2 years ago
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Surely the correct place to carry a pizza on a bike is in your stomach?

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IanMSpencer | 2 years ago
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What is doubly annoying about the give way on the cycle lane is that it is not even for a road, but just access to a shop specially put there for cars.

My local Sainsbury's garage cones off the entrance when they have a fuel delivery. Amazed to see drivers queuing to go in, bonnet in the entrance, rear hanging over the kerbside, for who knows how long. It doesn't occur to them that blocking the well-used pavement entirely is not just rude, anti-social but dangerous.

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to IanMSpencer | 2 years ago
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In the previous fuel crisis before the last one, some pedestrians raised about drivers blocking footpaths and being bumper to bumper (I imagine to stop a really really small car from getting in the foot or so of space that might be there). 

Some MP tried to put them right by stating the drop kerb is for pedestrians so the entrance is actually priority to cars. I suppose technically he was correct, however the fact that they couldn't move forward until other cars had gone, so could leave 3foot of space for the footpath seemed to be as lost on him as it was the drivers. 

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chrisonabike replied to IanMSpencer | 2 years ago
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But but pedestrians can move out of the way round the car but you can't block the road *!  That's why drivers have to pull in over the pavement out of the way of other drivers.  Also presumably follow each other closely through amber / red lights at junctions - they're just trying to help everyone get on.

* Snark aside I believe this is still codified as the primary goal for e.g. designers, local authorities etc.  Cf. other countries where the safe movement of people is the primary aim.

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IanMSpencer replied to chrisonabike | 2 years ago
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That traffic flow thing reminded me of an Ashley Neal comment, (give me a virtual minute, I can't quite think of the context) where he was suggesting doing something to aid traffic flow, where I thought there was a conflict with flow and safety.

I'm not sure this was it, but shows the problem of "being nice". How often have you driven down the motorway, "making progress" at a legal speed when the car you are passing suddenly signals and pops out into the lane in front of you? You actually had a good idea it was going to happen because there was a vehicle on the slip road you are approaching and the driver has moved over for them. But the reality is that:

a) they've slowed you down;

b) they created risk by an ill-considered move.

c) The joining car was not hindered, it may have needed to adjust speed, but that is a normal part of joining. The "cost" of joining has now been transferred to you on the main carriageway, and probably following cars, rather than the joining car.

d) You had already assessed the slip road and recognised there was no obvious conflict that needed cooperation from drivers on the motorway.

e) you may then see extra conflict as the joining car is then able to join a clear lane at higher speeds and gets into conflict with the "polite" driver who is not making progress, leading to undertaking or delays as the driver has to slow and either exchange places or move out two lanes to get around the "polite" driver. At worst, and I've had it happen to me, having completed the overtake, you move back across to the left to find that newbie has got bored and accelerated and is pulling out infront of the middle lane driver, leading to conflict where the accelerating car is in a blind spot.

Add in a bit of being hassled by a driver trying to bully past, and all of a sudden politeness has become confusion and conflict.

My point is that driving for flow may cause bad habits which potentially reduce flow. Rarely appropriate to effectively change priorities.

As you suggest highways engineers are all part of the same team where the target is to move cars as efficiently as possible and cyclists and pedestrians are part of the enemy. Some of the worst problems in Solihull are major road schemes where there have been junction improvements, e.g. J4 of the M42, which historically had a footpath leading to the A34, the original builders of the junction put a footpath around the junction, which was originally 2 lane, but the pedestrian is supposed to traverse 5 lanes width without even a beg button - put they still do get tactile marked dropped kerb to do it in the face of four lanes of motorway traffic straining at the leash! The provided cycle route to avoid the junction adds 500 metres onto a 400 metre crossing, which would also require several beg buttons and dismounts to go through gates.

https://goo.gl/maps/BJRHnq7ekND6XyQg8

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to IanMSpencer | 2 years ago
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Slightly better the the ped/shared paths on the island next to the Airport. When I was attending there for the CWG, I left twice on this route. You have to cross roads with no beg buttons or any light controls with "fast" routes for certain traffic so they don't even need to slow down. Of course that is even if you can get to the path with the bushes in the way in certain parts.

And if you do want to get over to the new exit and shared paths to go into Birmingham, you have to cross several other lanes including travelling 100metres down against the flow of traffic and then crossing and negotiating past a crash barrier. As shown along this path, it seems the council don't have the resources to clean it. You then have to go down this ramp off the bridge before you get to anything reasonably maintained. 

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IanMSpencer replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 2 years ago
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The interesting thing is that Solihull invested in cycle routes from Chelmsley Wood to Solihull TC as part of there regeneration attempts.

For those who are not aware, Chelmsley Wood is poor inner city Birmingham but lumped in with wealthy Solihull for whatever reason back in the day. To give the council their credit, they try and take their responsibility to the area seriously. The obvious desire line from CW to town centre goes straight through the airport, so you are describing the issues where users may actually be cycling due to financial necessity as well as personal preference.

Fortunately, Solihull seem to be resolving the issue by encouraging the major retailers to move out of the TC to Shirley, much further away necessitating an extra bus journey, or a longer cycle, so that would seem to have solved the desire line problem!

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Owd Big 'Ead | 2 years ago
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My Larry vs Harry Bullitt cargobike is way more versatile than Ridleys Grfn. It's not what you buy, but how you ride it that matters.
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