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Concerns young cyclists may copy pros using TT position in road races (+ calls for a ban) ; "Like a boss": Dutch kid grabs best spot for his bike; British Cycling launch project to tackle diversity gap; Roglic wins again + more on the live blog

It's Friday and Dan Alexander will be taking you through to the weekend on the live blog...
30 October 2020, 16:52
Roglic takes red jersey with third stage win

Primoz Roglic won his third stage of the Vuelta, taking the overall race lead in the process. The Slovenian finished three seconds ahead of Richard Carapaz which, combined with the ten second bonus for winning the stage, was enough to take the red jersey from the Ineos rider. This weekend sees a double-header of summit finishes with Sunday's stage ending at the notoriously brutal Angliru.

30 October 2020, 16:26
E.T. mode unlocked on Zwift
Zwift in the sky - via Ron Buch on Zwift.JPG

Ron Buch was Zwifting away... when all of a sudden, due to an apparent glitch in the software, his bike appeared to take off and the rest of his ride took place in the sky. 

Originally sharing his story on the Zwift Riders Facebook group, Ron said: “I was in the process of being caught up to a pace partner when I hit Join Event. It kept me at the elevation of the Jungle Circuit, but put me in the desert start corral. Then, I rode a straight line to the jungle, and once my wheels hit the road, I followed the road from that point on. But, Zwift thought I was still in the group, so I moved back and forth dodging nonexistent riders. It was a weird morning.“

Zwift in the sky 2 - via Ron Buch on Zwift.JPG

The monstrously large hydration system on the aesthetically unusual Specialized S-Works Shiv could probably fit an alien or two in it, so we're calling this E.T. Mode... any other Zwifters experienced this?

30 October 2020, 15:55
Concerns young riders may put themselves in danger by copying pro riders

This morning we highlighted the debate raging on social media amongst the professional peloton at the Vuelta over the saftey of riding in a TT position on a road bike.

Team NTT's Reinardt Janse van Rensburg tweeted the picture above with the caption 'not ok' and tagged the UCI in the post.

It sparked a healthy debate with Ineos' Andrey Amador explaining that he was still in control of the handlebars as well as fellow pros Jesus Herrada and Jetse Bol having their say too.

One opinion that appeared numerous times from volunteers working in youth cycling and the wider community was that there have been cases of young riders, lacking the experience and bike-handling skills of the professional peloton, putting themselves in danger by copying the position in junior races.

Jose Been said: "I work at a youth cycling event. We see kids do this from 8-9 years old because they think it’s cool. They don’t have the bike handling skills to do it and they crash. We made it illegal and they get a time penalty now."

"I've seen lots of youth riders in Ireland doing this too. I believe that Cycling Ireland have now banned it for youth, a point of disqualification if caught," Finbar O'Kane added.

Let us know in our poll below what you think?

30 October 2020, 15:27
New kit
Brooks

 

Fancy a black and gold saddle? Brooks have got you covered with this Chris King collaboration.

Limar have announced they are adding MIPS (Multi-directional Impact Protection System) to their Air Pro helmet for added protection.

Here's our review of the brand's flagship model.

30 October 2020, 14:55
Vuelta stage 10
Stage 10

La Vuelta stage 10 has 50km to go and the race is reaching the interesting part of the day's profile.

It could be one for the sprinters, but there are a number of tests that will need to be tackled within the final hour of racing.

As it stands there is a breakaway of four riders three minutes ahead of the peloton. 

30 October 2020, 14:38
Twitter reacts to funny video of Dutch child taking best parking spot
30 October 2020, 14:24
Bikes > cars

If you needed a laugh to take you through to the weekend then here you go.

This kid in the Netherlands knows exactly what to do when he's done with his bike ride as he ignores the queue of cars waiting behind him and leaves his bike nicely parked in the free space, before walking off.

Chapeau.

30 October 2020, 13:45
Council respond to criticism over Sunrise Cycleway

North Tyneside Council have responded to claims that their website was updated with the intention of misleading people about the 'Sunrise Cycleway' being a temporary initiative.

On Tuesday we highlighted the fact that the council used the cycleway to plug their new fleet of new e-cargo bikes.

North Tyneside Council denied the changes were intended to mislead people, instead claiming that it was in response to members of the public asking for clarity about whether it was a temporary measure.

The cycleway, which runs from Whitley Bay to Tynemouth, has been heralded by cyclists and advocates of active transport for providing a safe environment for cycling.

However, the council have made it clear that the cycleway will not be a permanent feature and will be restored to allow motorists access.

This petition asking for the cycleway to be kept has 5,600 signatures. 

30 October 2020, 12:23
TT position in road races... yay or nay? Vote in our poll

Plenty of discussion on this one amongst the pros themselves... but what do you reckon? Vote in our poll... for no particular reason, but who doesn't love a good poll?

 
Should pros be allowed to adopt the TT position in road races?

Yep
Nope
 
 
 
 
 
 
Created with QuizMaker
30 October 2020, 11:56
Cannondale go fully recyclable
cannondale systemsix ef pro cycling2

Cannondale have announced plans to make all their packaging in Europe 100% recyclable by cutting down on single-use plastics.

The packaging, developed by Cycling Sports Group Europe (a division of Cannondale's parent company Dorel Industries), will avoid use of plastic tape, plastic bags, foam, PVC, and zip ties.

Eugene Fierkens, the General Manager of CSG Europe, told Bike Europe: "Our objective was to design a better packaging system.

"Make it better for the environment, make the packaging protection stronger and significantly reduce assembly time. This is better for the planet, a gift for bike shops, and a win for our customers.”

30 October 2020, 11:17
British Cycling set out plan to tackle diversity gap in cycling
British Cycling Logo

British Cycling have announced plans to tackle the diversity gap within the sport by increasing black and minority ethnic representation in the "racing community, volunteer network, recreation programmes and the organisation's own workforce."

British Cycling Business Services Director, Rod Findlay, said: “While we have made great strides as an organisation to tackle the gender gap in our sport in recent years.

"It remains the case that too many people from black and minority ethnic communities simply do not feel like they belong in our sport, and that is something which we simply must change."

The governing body also announced projects aimed at encouraging more people from black and minority ethnic backgrounds to participate in cycling will be announced in the near future.

All of British Cycling's plans will undertaken with consultation from Inclusive Employers.

30 October 2020, 09:04
Should the TT position be banned in road races?

The pro peloton at La Vuelta were last night engaged in healthy debate over the safety of adopting a TT position when racing in a bunch.

Team NTT's Reinardt Janse van Rensburg raised the question by sharing a photo of Team Ineos domestique Andrey Amador riding with both arms wrapped over the middle of the bars while travelling at 64km/h in the final of yesterday's stage.

Amador responded, saying that he did still have control of his handlebars.

One concern raised was that children were replicating the position after seeing professionals using it in races. 

30 October 2020, 10:50
A cycling holiday to...Chernobyl

Mallorca? Tuscany? Or how about Chernobyl...

A new cycling route has been created to allow cyclists to ride across the exclusion zone at the site of the nuclear accident.

Created by Ukraine’s State Agency for Exclusion Zone Management, the route is 45km long and claims to be a safe way of exploring the area's wildlife and history.

Previously visitors could only enter the zone by car or on foot.

30 October 2020, 10:34
Dirty Kanza renamed Unbound Gravel

One of the world's biggest gravel races has been rebranded.

Formerly Dirty Kanza, the race will now be named Unbound Gravel over concerns the original name was derogatory to the Kaw Nation.

Race co-director Kristi Mohn explained the decision to VeloNews: "We had had concerns brought up from people in the gravel community that the name was causing harm and was derogatory toward the Kaw Nation.

"Through our history of the event, our relationship with the Kaw Nation had been positive, but as things grew more heated, it became apparent the name needed to change."

30 October 2020, 10:01
Cambridge North station to increase security following repeated bike thefts
tfl cycle parking walthamstow station

A secure bike compound, similar to the one pictured above at Walthamstow Station, is one measure to be introduced to tackle the increase in bike thefts at the station.

The station has one of the highest rates of bike theft in the country.

New fencing for the existing cycle area and new CCTV cameras are also part of the plan to address the problem.

According to Cambridgeshire Live, the station experienced 182 bike thefts in the 12 months leading up to Demeber 2019 and has the highest rate of crime of any station in the country.

30 October 2020, 09:23
Halloween Strava art

From Baltimore comes this spooky Strava art made by WallyGPX...other recent maps have included a tribute to Eddie Van Halen and Any Given Sunday.

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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Marky Legs | 4 years ago
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Then you also need to ban descending on the bar, putting on and taking off rain jackets, throwing bottles.  In fact, anything that may cause joe public to imitate.

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Gkam84 | 4 years ago
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British Cycling to become inclusive?  

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Sriracha replied to Gkam84 | 4 years ago
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Just been for a few hours walk around a countryside beauty spot. Birmingham City is visible from the highpoints, and people come from miles around - walkers, joggers, dog people, horse riders, mountain bikers, families with kids, OAPs, the lot. Didn't see a single BAME face in several hours. Is this because people who like to go for a countryside walk are not "inclusive"?

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Simon E replied to Sriracha | 4 years ago
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Sriracha wrote:

Didn't see a single BAME face in several hours. Is this because people who like to go for a countryside walk are not "inclusive"?

Perhaps you're asking the wrong people why that's the case (my impression is that most of us are white males).

I have been listening to the Downcast podcast on racism in MTB (and outdoor activities in general). It goes far beyond cycling, the contributors discuss things that might not be obvious to most white listeners.

http://www.downtimepodcast.com/racism-in-mountain-biking/

Also:

https://singletrackworld.com/2020/10/what-people-mean-when-they-say-cycl...

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Velo-drone replied to Sriracha | 4 years ago
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Saw plenty of "BAME faces" on the Monsal trail. So maybe they just go to diff places ...

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OldRidgeback replied to Gkam84 | 4 years ago
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There are lots of non-white riders in BMX racing. 

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Moist von Lipwig | 4 years ago
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Further to the story the other day about north Tyneside council removing their cycle way, they're now trying to backdate it to say it's temporary.

https://mobile.twitter.com/NTyneLivingSt/status/1322080678280835074?s=08

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captain_slog replied to Moist von Lipwig | 4 years ago
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By coincidence I was on it this very day. It's absolutely brilliant. Proper, useable infrastructure on a glorious part of the coast. I'm afraid my photo doesn't remotely do it justice. 
 

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NPlus1Bikelights | 4 years ago
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If you want cycle security just copy the Dutch. Oyster style card for access to the building.

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Awavey replied to NPlus1Bikelights | 4 years ago
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Greater Anglia are part Dutch,but implemented a token scheme for their secured bike parks,unfortunately the tokens were limited in numbers,so have a long waiting list,maybe not so much in current climate, but they completely replaced all existing bike parking with them.

Meaning unless you had one of the limited tokens you couldn't park your bike at a station with this setup anymore. I cant say I feel this is much of an improvement of the cyclists lot there, and where they expect to put the extra spaces for cycling at the other stations that article mentions,I dont know where the space is for them.

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boardmad | 4 years ago
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Cambridge North news is frankly garbage. The existing bike park in Cambridge is CCTV monitored on the first and second floors of a hotel and dining unit next to the station and is littered with wheels, frames and cut locks. When you ask for footage it takes week if it comes and is generally useless as the thieving toe rags know where the cameras are and just cover up. 
bike theft in this town is sadly completely out of control 

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leisurist replied to boardmad | 4 years ago
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I have heard that the CCTV at the station is in fact not monitored and police say they have no time to review it. So you are SOL regardless. I would never leave a bike worth more than a few hundred pounds locked up anywhere in Cambridge.

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JPKD | 4 years ago
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Riding with your hands off the bars is a DQ-able offence in British Cycling events. In the past I've ticked off club members for this and riding Chris Froome style on the top tube while descending. Both are banned in amateur events so there is no place for them in club or group rides. 

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HoarseMann | 4 years ago
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keep those hands on the bars...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8892887/Cyclist-riding-no-hands...

(sorry it's the DM again, they seem to have exclusive on it)

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Rendel Harris | 4 years ago
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I'd ban the TT position and sitting on the crossbar for descending (something I'm seeing more idiots doing when out training for no other reason than they think it looks cool), both make a (thrillingly) dangerous sport unecessarily more dangerous.

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JohnnyRemo replied to Rendel Harris | 4 years ago
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It's already "banned" - just not enforced. 

 

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Rendel Harris replied to JohnnyRemo | 4 years ago
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TT position, sitting on the crossbar, or both?

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blackbikerider replied to Rendel Harris | 4 years ago
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The newbie hipsters that have seen the pro's do it and zip by you at high speed thinking they look cool, not realising that the older more experienced cyclists know both the TT and crossbar position are just unstable. descending sat on the cross bar moves your weight forward, as a qualified coach myself its a big no no.

 

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Rick_Rude replied to blackbikerider | 4 years ago
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So how do kids again experience to ride in a TT style if they're never allowed to ride in a TT style. 

What next the BMX kids not allowed to do jumps? 

As for the diversity thing, 1.9 black people live in england....1.1 million of which live in London. 4/5 of UK's population does not cycle at all. So for the rest of England that's 800k black people, 4/5 who won't cycle so that leaves 160k black people cycling across the entirety of the country. Not massive numbers. What do people expect?

Look at people riding 3 times a week 3.2%. Take those figures and that's only 25600 black people riding across England at best. 

I'd be more bothered about the fact that 4/5 OF THE POPULATION DOES NOT CYCLE. That's more worrying. 

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ChasP replied to Rick_Rude | 4 years ago
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Kids gain experience riding in a TT position using TT bars, not resting their elbows on the tops of road bars  which the pro's do because TT bars are banned in road races.

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Secret_squirrel replied to Rick_Rude | 4 years ago
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Do you get the fact that your whole tone deaf comment illustrates that there is a problem?

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Bmblbzzz replied to Secret_squirrel | 4 years ago
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I'm wondering what would happen in Netherlands if "TT position" were banned on the road? Lots of pissed-off commuters... !

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Brauchsel replied to Rick_Rude | 4 years ago
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Rick_Rude wrote:

1.9 black people live in England.

That can't be true, I know almost three. 

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