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Police to “protect” cyclists with speed limit checks to tackle “dangerous and careless” riding

"We’ll be spending more time on our most rural roads, to ensure riders are keeping to speed limits and riding with care"...

Last week, Derbyshire Constabulary announced a new campaign that involved more patrolling on the roads to make them safer, saying they will focus on protecting cyclists and motorbike riders by keeping them within speed limits and reducing dangerous behaviour, while also dealing with instances of bad driving, including close passes.

The campaign, called “Peak District patrols to protect bikers and cyclists”, was announced on 14 April, the police saying that with brighter weather on its way, more cyclists are likely to hit the roads. They also claimed that “more than a quarter of people who have lost their lives on Derbyshire’s roads in the last three years, where [sic.] motorbike riders or cyclists”, despite “only making up three per cent of all road users in the UK”.

To change this, the Derbyshire Constabulary wrote that it is going to spend “more time on our most rural roads, to ensure riders are keeping to speed limits and riding with care”.

Adam Titterton, a sergeant in the roads policing unit added that they’ll be spending more time on the roads where they’ve seen most incidents involving bikes and motorbikes, including areas like Snake Pass and peak district routes, where they “more frequently see people speeding and riding both dangerously and carelessly”.

He said: “We’ll also be out talking to people and running stop checks to ensure our communities are using roads responsibly. And we will be recommending our BikeSafe course, which is a fantastic chance for motorbike riders to enhance their skills with instruction from our advanced police motorbike riders.”

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road.cc reached out to Derbyshire Constabulary for a clarification of the statement, and the force told us that this operation “aims to reduce the number of collisions involving motorcycles and bicycles”.

They said: “As part of that operation, our officers will be patrolling in high visibility and plain vehicles on the key routes across the Peak District National Park looking for signs of bad driving including close passes.

“Any motorist seen driving in an unsafe way will be dealt with by officers.

“Also, as part of Derbyshire Capture, we are continuing to encourage cyclists to submit evidence they gather of poor driving which we will use to either educate or prosecute drivers as a result.”

And finally, they added that officers will be carrying out more speed checks and will be “stopping and speaking to those road users whose behaviour may cause a danger to themselves or others”.

While the initiative seems intended to protect cyclists, the wording does suggest they are planning to police them more as well.

Recently, Derbyshire Police featured in our Near Miss of the Day series when a taxi driver was given a warning letter after overtaking a long queue of traffic at speed in the wrong lane – narrowly avoiding an oncoming cyclist and her child in the process – because they believed that a conviction was “not realistic” and that prosecuting the motorist would not be “proportional”.

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The incident took place on a key active travel route, with two schools on streets adjacent to the section of the road.

The cyclist Kate, had already submitted a previous instance of a close pass from an HGV driver to Derbyshire Police before, and it resulted in no action. And when she submitted the taxi driver’s close pass in January, she told us that she just received a “generic response” within a day to confirm that the taxi driver would receive a warning letter.

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“There was no reasoning given behind the decision not to prosecute and their letter says I can’t question this decision,” she said.

“So, I’m not terribly impressed with Derbyshire Constabulary,” Kate continued. “Derbyshire roads are really not great for safety. The unwillingness of Derbyshire Constabulary to enforce bad driving has to be a big part of this problem.”

Adwitiya joined road.cc in 2023 as a news writer after completing his masters in journalism from Cardiff University. His dissertation focused on active travel, which soon threw him into the deep end of covering everything related to the two-wheeled tool, and now cycling is as big a part of his life as guitars and football. He has previously covered local and national politics for Voice Cymru, and also likes to write about science, tech and the environment, if he can find the time. Living right next to the Taff trail in the Welsh capital, you can find him trying to tackle the brutal climbs in the valleys.

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grOg | 1 year ago
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'The unwillingness of Derbyshire Constabulary to enforce bad driving has to be a big part of this problem'..  I'm glad the police are unwilling to enforce bad driving, as I'd much rather they enforce driving laws..

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Mungecrundle | 1 year ago
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I cannot get too worked up about this. A higher profile Police presence on the roads and more widespread enforcement of speed limits really isn't going to be detrimental to cyclists regardless of how clumsily the Police word their press releases.

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Accessibility f... | 1 year ago
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Anyone who lives locally knows what the issue is.  You only have to see the number of holes in the dry stone walls on this road and the Woodhead Pass to know who's being a dickhead.

And you can count the number of people cycling on either road on the fingers of one hand.  Neither is safe.

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Organon replied to Accessibility for all | 1 year ago
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Bloody Chris Froome at it again. They call him the 'Demolition Man.'

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HoarseMann | 1 year ago
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Using the excellent CycleStreets collision data map, a quick review of the last 20 years collision information for Snake Pass reveals roughly where the problem is...

(there were a lot of blanks in the casualty type data, I filled in the ones for fatal collisions and of the few serious collisions I looked at, they were mostly motorbikes)

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David9694 replied to HoarseMann | 1 year ago
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Would that be the same Snake Pass that was somehow dangerous when closed-off for repairs? 

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wtjs | 1 year ago
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About time, too! Stamp out the menace of speeding cyclists!!

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Owd Big 'Ead | 1 year ago
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I haven't got the stats to hand, but the majority of cyclists killed in Derbyshire over the last 3 years, as mentioned in the article, have been in urban setting, ie towns and cities, not the Peak District.

For motorcyclists, it's the exact opposite. Too many think they can ride like Rossi on the Snake Pass and to a lesser degree the Cat and Fiddle.

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S13SFC replied to Owd Big 'Ead | 1 year ago
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The average speed cameras have made a big difference on the Cat, especially on that stretch past Walker Barn.

 

Owd Big 'Ead wrote:

I haven't got the stats to hand, but the majority of cyclists killed in Derbyshire over the last 3 years, as mentioned in the article, have been in urban setting, ie towns and cities, not the Peak District.

For motorcyclists, it's the exact opposite. Too many think they can ride like Rossi on the Snake Pass and to a lesser degree the Cat and Fiddle.

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wycombewheeler replied to S13SFC | 1 year ago
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S13SFC wrote:

The average speed cameras have made a big difference on the Cat, especially on that stretch past Walker Barn.

the dog is still going just as fast.

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OldRidgeback replied to Owd Big 'Ead | 1 year ago
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The last time I rode my sportsbike along the Cat one of the biggest threats was from a guy driving a tipper truck as though it were a rally car. Yes, he was keeping to the speed limit (just) but seeing a four axle tipper nailing it through the corners was pretty alarming. 

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Benthic | 1 year ago
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Derbyshire Constabulary is well-aware that speed limits do not apply to cyclists, isn't it?

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S13SFC | 1 year ago
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On Good Friday I did a Peaks ride.

Going up Ellastone past the Peak Wildlife Centre there was a motorbike, ambulance and bus!

This is a pretty common sort of sight during the summer months so I can see why Derbyshire OB and the Staffordshire Moorlands OB are looking at what to do.

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HarrogateSpa | 1 year ago
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I would rather see police in urban areas, dealing with bad driving that puts people on bikes and others at risk. Instead towns and cities are wild west zones were drivers do as they please.

I suggest the police are concentrating on rural areas because it's easier for them.

Stopping people on bikes and saying 'ooh, you seem to be going a bit fast' will achieve precisely nothing.

Mixing up motorbikes and bikes is unhelpful - the issues are completely different.

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S13SFC replied to HarrogateSpa | 1 year ago
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It can be a bit like whacky races at times in The Peaks so it's to stop born again bikers wrapping themselves around a tree.

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S13SFC | 1 year ago
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I ride in The Peaks a lot and well done to Derbyshire OB for doing something about the motorbikes.

The speed cameras over the Cat and Fiddle have certainly made a difference but on a nice weekend some roads are like the Isle Of Man TTs.

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OldRidgeback replied to S13SFC | 1 year ago
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S13SFC wrote:

I ride in The Peaks a lot and well done to Derbyshire OB for doing something about the motorbikes.

The speed cameras over the Cat and Fiddle have certainly made a difference but on a nice weekend some roads are like the Isle Of Man TTs.

I'm a motorcyclist as well as a cyclist. I don't get why people want to take their sportsbikes on public roads to ride at speed. That's what track days are for. Yes, I have a sportsbike but speed limits are there for a reason. Track days meanwhile are brilliant.

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HoldingOn | 1 year ago
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I've read this a few times now. Must still be reading it wrong. It reads like a police force are saying cyclists cause accidents by cycling too fast.

That can't be right.
Reading it again.

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S13SFC replied to HoldingOn | 1 year ago
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No, it refers to motorbikes.

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HoldingOn replied to S13SFC | 1 year ago
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I wonder if they are being deliberately vague.
Ride a bike. Ride a motorbike.
Cyclist. Motorcyclist.
Cyclist, motorist...

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Awavey replied to HoldingOn | 1 year ago
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I suspect so, there's funding for a "two wheel campaign" which is really about stopping motorcyclists be a damger to themselves, and there's plenty of YouTube video footage from Derbyshire roads to support that, because its part of the NPCC led campaigns, but they lob in some cycling content so as to be seen to be doing something for road safety on that score.

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Hirsute replied to S13SFC | 1 year ago
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Don't think so.

"over the next few weeks we’ll be focusing on bikes and motorbikes, as we’re sure the brighter weather will bring more riders out and about into Derbyshire."

"We’ll be spending more time on our most rural roads, to ensure riders are keeping to speed limits and riding with care. "

riders = bikes and motorbikes

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lesterama | 1 year ago
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Remind me again what the speed limit for cyclists is.

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chrisonabike replied to lesterama | 1 year ago
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Woohoo!

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Paul J replied to lesterama | 1 year ago
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None. If you should cause bodily harm to others, you can be charged with wanton and furious riding, I think. https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/road-traffic-charging#a037

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Paul J replied to Paul J | 1 year ago
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FWIW, in Ireland that offence has been superceded. The offences of careless driving and dangerous driving (which do not require bodily harm to have been done to others) in the Road Traffic Act apply generally to "drivers" - which includes cyclists.

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Benthic replied to lesterama | 1 year ago
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Whatever. Motorists will simultaneously complain that cyclists cycle too slowly and too fast. There is no in-between.

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IanMSpencer replied to Benthic | 1 year ago
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and they should not be on the road or pavement, and cycle lanes should only be built if they do not take any space from motorists or pedestrians, except where they provide useful parking opportunities that might otherwise obstruct real road users.

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wycombewheeler replied to Benthic | 1 year ago
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Benthic wrote:

Whatever. Motorists will simultaneously complain that cyclists cycle too slowly and too fast. There is no in-between.

no there is quite a big overlap

cycling at more than 10mph = too fast

cycling at less than the speed limit = too slow

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