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NMotD police.PNGNear Miss of the Day 643: Police officer pulls out on cyclist
One of the more niche sub-genres in our Near Miss of the Day series comprises incidents in which the perpetrator is a police officer – there’s some examples here –and it’s always a bit of a head-scratcher given that they tend to be better trained than the average driver as well as being, you know, the people tasked with upholding the law.
So while today’s offering, which happened on Lilford Road in Camberwell, South London just after 8am this morning is by no means the worst example of driving we’ve featured in the series, we thought it was worth sharing.
When even the police can't be bothered to look for bikes or indicate before pulling away it's no wonder the roads are dangerous...@MetCycleCops @metpoliceuk @MikeyCycling @anneramsey740 @Jezter55 @roadcc pic.twitter.com/CPh2FcbOZH
— Rendel Harris (@Rendel_Harris) October 12, 2021
As Rendel, the road.cc reader who posted the footage to Twitter says, “It’s not exactly a near miss (could have been if I hadn’t kept aware) but if the police can't be bothered to look for bikes or indicate before pulling out ...”
He added that he has lodged a formal complaint with the Metropolitan Police regarding the incident.
> Near Miss of the Day turns 100 - Why do we do the feature and what have we learnt from it?
Over the years road.cc has reported on literally hundreds of close passes and near misses involving badly driven vehicles from every corner of the country – so many, in fact, that we’ve decided to turn the phenomenon into a regular feature on the site. One day hopefully we will run out of close passes and near misses to report on, but until that happy day arrives, Near Miss of the Day will keep rolling on.
If you’ve caught on camera a close encounter of the uncomfortable kind with another road user that you’d like to share with the wider cycling community please send it to us at info [at] road.cc or send us a message via the road.cc Facebook page.
If the video is on YouTube, please send us a link, if not we can add any footage you supply to our YouTube channel as an unlisted video (so it won't show up on searches).
Please also let us know whether you contacted the police and if so what their reaction was, as well as the reaction of the vehicle operator if it was a bus, lorry or van with company markings etc.
> What to do if you capture a near miss or close pass (or worse) on camera while cycling
Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.
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Thanks - beat me to it.
Still not reading their own comments.
get a room boys.
Now that seems personal. What's your excuse now, it's ok because you weren't addressing it to everyone?
Thats humour You should try it some time. its quite helpful and can be used on the road as well.
Is it, by golly? Good of you to flag it up otherwise it could easily be mistaken for ignorant rudeness. By the way, while you're here, care to comment on the fact that when this video was originally posted you said "nothing to see here", and how does that sit with the police officer giving me a full and unreserved apology and admitting he was entirely at fault?
By nothing to see I meant it was hardly the life threatening incident that deserves 'flagging up' . But you carry on flagging up everything like a sort of video cycling tourettes and I'll carry on commenting on it.
Deal ?
I'm sure I asked you this before and you didn't answer: do you actually ride a bike? I can't actually recall you doing anything on this site but blindly defend the police and castigate cyclists.
He has mentioned "when I'm on my bike I wouldn't have done that manouvre" when criticising cyclists. Of course it could be along the lines of Boo's stories and made up for "bantz". ( a spoke broke but a van driver picked me up and we had a great chat about Top Lawyer Nick Freeman and how all cyclists should be taxed. Oh and how we chuckled about people who ride with actual friends are bad riders. Luckily that will never happen with me as I don't have any.)
yes i do. Daily 28 mile per day round trips to various parts of central london from canary wharf over to vauxhall. less often currently due to covid .
Plenty of time to see lots of bad driving cycling and walking. We're all at it.
I thought the people piling onto you were very funny. Why do you think you didn't see it that way?
So if you write 20 replies saying you are a police hater that is wrong but if you make one reply saying you are all police haters that's ok.
It's pointless reading what you write now. The odd useful comment will be lost in the contrarian or irrelevant ones.
Can you believe that MD?
It is ok as I've sent that abuse to upto 40 people in one go so that is ok. But four of those have replied back and that isn't fair.
That excuse is worse then his driving around mini roundabouts.
I just like to post you admitting you should be taken off the road as you are such a bad driver.
the brake lights are visible between 4 and 6 seconds, no other lights are visible and the police car does not discernably move. If the cyclist had noticed this might be more likely to conclude the police car had just parked, than was about to pull out.
Pretty sure most people don't apply the brakes before setting off.
If they were letting an oncoming car pass, why would they pull in on the right instead of the left?
I don't think it'd be particularly relevant if they had been indicating (though it would have given Rendel a heads up and more time to brake) as pulling out straight in front of a cyclist and causing them to brake to avoid a collision is still dangerous. The lack of indicating just shows that they weren't focussed on driving safely at all.
'Pretty sure most people don't apply the brakes before setting off.'
you've never driven an automatic then.
To think I was missing boatsie...
TBH, nige reminds me more of a Goatse.
And the reason that their view was restricted - because they parked on the wrong side of the road...
https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/parking.html
(The very first bullet point)
"slow down" don't you mean "come to a complete stop" (probably an emergency stop). Anything less than a complete stop would have resulted in a collision, if Rendell's bike had been a car.
There lack of indication wouldn't make a great deal of difference to my wanting to help them... except in so far as I can't help them if I have no idea what their intentions are. Indicators aren't there to be polite or to make requests, they are there only to inform. The only "indication" was when the brake lights came on briefly.
This is why people don't get prosecuted for Dangerous Driving, and the law needs changing. Dangerous Driving is considered as "far below expected standard of driving". This shows how low the bar is for expected driving levels.
Nothing to see. Looked to me like they started pulling out and slowed because of the cyclist who also slowed so they went. Its called traffic and you find a lot of it on roads especially in cities.
You're funny
Looks to me like they started pulling out until they could see what was coming in front of them, and then finished pulling out focusing entirely on what was coming in front of them, now that they could see it. This is the result of parking on the wrong side of the road. If you park on the left you have much better visibility when pulling out. You'd think police trained drivers would know this.
I wonder if its just possible they had a reason to park thats side and hadnt read the road cc guide on how to drive without affecting the cycling snowflake community.
Save your venom for seriously bad driving it'll be more effective.
They were too lazy to walk across a road? Like they were too lazy to check whether anything was coming, or to indicate before pulling out?
Did you actually bother reading the article?
perpetrator ? of what ?
Pulling out into traffic without indicating or waiting for the traffic to pass before moving I presume. It's not the worst example of driving we have seen, but it is
1. not good
2. a traffic offense
3. dangerous
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Bad driving, I assume. But that was road.cc's choice of word, not mine, so I don't really know why you're asking me. Unless it's just confirmation that you don't actually read anything you're responding to.
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