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Sussex Police responds to allegation that close pass videos submitted to it are not properly investigated

“When the public take the time to provide footage to us, we take the time to review the footage,” says the force

Sussex Police insist that videos of close passes and similar examples of poor driving does get investigated properly, saying that “When the public take the time to provide footage to us, we take the time to review the footage.” This is following our story earlier this month about a local cyclist who submitted five videos to it under Operation Crackdown, but wondered whether the footage had been viewed before warning letters were sent to the registered keepers of the vehicles involved.

> Drivers sent warning letters after cyclist submits close pass videos – but she is unconvinced police even watched the footage (+ videos)

In particular, the cyclist was concerned that according to her YouTube statistics, the videos, which she had uploaded unlisted, did not appear to have received any views.

We contacted Sussex Police’s press office ahead of publishing that story, and were told that all of those videos “were each properly reviewed and assessed,” and subsequently the force’s partnerships manager, Oliver Senior, who has responsibility for Operation Crackdown, has contacted us to seek to provide further reassurance to people submitting videos under the initiative.

He told road.cc: “Sussex Police are committed to ensuring the Operation Crackdown site continues to facilitate modern methods of reporting and to ensure we address road safety concerns in a timely and effective manner.

“When the public take the time to provide footage to us, we take the time to review the footage,” he said. 

“In the case of these five clips sent to us by means of a private YouTube link, our most experienced administrator viewed all of them in the first instance and reached a decision to send a warning letter to each registered keeper.  That decision was backed up by a Police Constable who also viewed each of the films.

“The safety of cyclists is very important to us,” Senior continued. “We encourage all road users to remember that they have shared use of the road space and thus should recognise the more vulnerable users – such as pedestrians, cyclists and horses. 

“Where we receive complaints about the close passing of cycles we will always takes a considered approach based on the evidence we have,” he added.

Leaving aside the issue of whether a warning letter was appropriate in all those cases – the cyclist who sent the force the videos believed that in some, stronger action was appropriate – what remains unclear is why the videos were not shown as being viewed on YouTube at the time the cyclist checked the status of her submissions on the Operation Crackdown portal.

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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jthef replied to wtjs | 3 years ago
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I would agree about Lanc's police. about as much use as a chocolate fire guard. I have had quite a few videos on this Near miss of the day and not one has been prosicuted for the near miss.

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Sussexcyclist replied to Kerans | 3 years ago
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Only submitted 3 or 4 videos (all of which received letters) but no FPN's.

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Ric_Stern_RST replied to Kerans | 3 years ago
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Yes, I've had multiple prosecutions via Crackdown. Although I've also had many that haven't even when they should have been. Please feel free to contact me (privately) for suggestions... Crackdown has let me down on numerous occasions though and I've had to make complaints to the Professional Standards division and to PCC.

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jurassicjay replied to Kerans | 3 years ago
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Yes - I had an Operation Crackdown report progress to a prosecution. It may have been something to with the social media, internet and media reaction to the incident though, following the video being circulated online and in newspapers from here to South America. It was also reported on by road.cc and Cycling UK and I suspect that the prosecution wouldn't have happened if it hadn't recieved the attention it did. My thanks to road.cc for their involvement in it!

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Kerans replied to jurassicjay | 3 years ago
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That's great! I mean obviously it would have been better for the incident to not happen - but glad that you got a positive outcome.

Did the report immediately progress to a prosecution or was it reviewed (i.e. was a letter sent first)? Did you make the report after the incident was already publicised?

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Hastings Cyclist replied to Kerans | 3 years ago
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I've submitted around 60. A couple have resulted with the case being held on file and only 1 is going through prosecution.

The one that is going up to the courts is where the driver went the other side of a traffic island (and half into a bus lane) to avoid me. I was quite thankful he did.

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squidgy | 3 years ago
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Youtube uses algorithms to determine valid views. If the videos are only part viewed e.g. just skip to the few seconds either side of a close pass event, the view count will probably not increase

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cqexbesd replied to squidgy | 3 years ago
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Also I would guess their counts are "eventually consistent". Obviously YouTube is a lot of servers across a lot of data centres. If you watch on one it might take a while before that view shows up in the count seen at another. Not that I actually know...just guessing.

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mrb | 3 years ago
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My personal experience of Sussex Police is they don't really care and pass complaints from pillar to post until they drain your energy! As much use as a chocolate fireguard or an ashtray on my bike.

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ktache replied to mrb | 3 years ago
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Hmmm, handlebar ashtray, I was thinking oilslick Ti...

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