Pinarello have unveiled their all new 'eRoad' bike called the Nytro, looking remarkably like one of their high-end road bikes and coming with a Fazua Evation system that can provide up to 400W of assistance.
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The weight has been trimmed to 13kg, far below what Pinarello expected when they started the project, and if you take off the batteries to use the Nytro as a normal road bike it's just 9kg. Pinarello see a wide range of uses for the eRoad bike, from less experienced cyclists who want to keep up with faster riders, to those wanting to go out on recovery rides, to those looking to climb epic mountain passes without feeling too taxed.
Under EU rules the Fazua battery pack provides assistance up to 25km/h, with a remote control on the handlebar to change the assistance level and check remaining battery life. There are five levels of support offered, and also a walk assistance mode to help with carrying the bike.
Pinarello will offer the Nytro in 5 different frame sizes, made with Pinarello's T700 carbon fibre and reinforced tubes to cope with the load from the higher weight. As seen here it's specced with hydraulic disc brakes and a thru-axle system, can take up to 28mm tyres and has an Italian-threaded bottom bracket, with a Sram Force group and FSA chainset.
While pure roadies might be sceptical towards a race bike with a battery pack fitted, this latest offering is one of a few new e-bikes to be revealed this year that have trimmed a great deal of weight and are made to look and ride more like a conventional road bike. Orbea, Bianchi and Focus have all launched similar bikes in the latter part of 2017, creating a whole new eroad-bike sector in the space of a few months.
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"E-bikes" are mopeds, what are they doing on this site which is ostensibly about road cycling, and road BIKES?
E-bikes suck.
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Exactly, one of my mates recently bought his (75 year old) father an eBike, now they can continue to ride together when he goes to visit him down in Wales.
If somebody is worried that he might pip their KOM, they can fek themselves as far as I'm concerned.
Neighbours son did the same for his 84 year old dad, and he was still going out for 60 mile rides in the summer.
Hopefully when I'm that age, the motors will be tiny and the batteries will last for months.
They are getting prettier and looking more like a normal bike
I want one when my legs can't do the Alpine climbs anymore, but I still want to do them to enjoy the descents.
I'm 56 now, so little time, so many climbs
The problem with data segmentation and stereotypes is that it usually works; on this very thread one person has stated they'd be interested as they get older and another said it allowed their wife to climb with them.
Why do people spend so long being offended?
"also a walk assistance mode to help with carrying the bike"
Does the motor extend to your legs? If you're carrying it how does the motor assist?
Singlespeed, I'm not sure I understand? Needles are to administer certain drugs (I have them for insulin), TUEs are part of the laws and assessed on their merit and I'm unsure why their envelope preference is so focussed upon. Are you a box kind of a guy?
If only Team Sky had this circa the Wiggins Years they wouldn't have needed Needles, TUES and Jiffy bags.
I would have thought buying a bike of this marque would ideally be an indicator of your riding prowess. Obviously not. It's a bit like buying an autodrive Caterham.
No mention of their horrendous social media push for this?
We picked up on it shortly after... http://road.cc/content/news/232587-roadcc-live-blog-pinarellos-e-bike-ma...
Not their finest hour!
Presumably Fabian Cancellara will be the face of marketing campaign.
However, I have to say, as far as e-bikes go, this may be the nicest-looking one I've seen yet. I am partial to the F8 styling, though. Whenever I get my wife to finally let me get a new bike I'm really considering a Gan (don't know if I could ever justify spending the amount needed for a Dogma).
I rented a Gan for a week in Mallorca- it was a basic spec, but was superb. Highly recommended. A chap there had an F8, and aside from the posh carbon etc I could not tell the difference between the frames to look at, one would hope it would be stiffer or whatever.
Good to know, thanks! One of the guys I ride with got an F8 a few months ago and it's beautiful. He was able to get an incredible deal on it (just over $5,000 USD total with eTap and Reynolds Aero clinchers), but I don't know if I'd be willing to go the route he did for it. Both the frame and one of the wheels were busted from shipping from the manufacturer (another guy in our group has a connection with an online dealer), so he got those relatively cheap, and I guess we have a really good carbon repair place not too far from here, so he had them fix it. According to them, the parts are stronger now than original, though a small bit heavier. I just don't know if I'd have the faith to spend that much, however big a deal it might be, on repaired carbon. I also weigh around 25kg more than him so durability may be on my mind more
I have spoken with a few retailers (for what that's worth) about the Gan and they've all said that they didn't notice a difference in strength/stiffness when they rode it compared to the F8, it's just the type of carbon used isn't as stiff so they have to use more of it which makes the frame a little heavier overall. Being about 88kg myself I think I can deal with a few hundred extra grams on a frame
Something that seems strange to me, is it having similar geometry to an actual race bike (Dogma). I might be off on this, and I know it can be different with some because of injuries, etc., but it kinda feels like the target demographic that would need the assistance may have issues riding very far in such an aggressive position, with or without the help of a motor.
I've just lost the point of climbing mountain passes, if everyone can claim to have climbed, or indeed actually climb, L'Angliru, it's going to lose some of its cachet, no?
It's not supposed to be easy.
and it still is not easy you still have to pedal the thing. My wife rode Alpe d'huez last year on an e-bike. Never usually rides. She came back exhausted but had the best time ever. Surely it is about getting people out in the fresh air and enjoying themselves on a bike. Not everyone is capable of doing this unassisted and it is not going to change your enjoyment of your unassisted bike.
Hear hear gbzpto, and congratulations to your wife.
I fully agree, people spend far too much time worrying about what other people are up to.
Almost makes me think they are deficient somewhere...
Love it....as I get older these bikes look great...I hope they keep on developing ..boo you nay sayers
400W !!! Almost painful to think of that being restricted to just 25km/h assistance limit... not that I ride or even want an ebike.
The article originally said it was 400 watt hours, that would suggest the capacity of the battery not the power of the motor. they've now changed it to 400 watts of 'assistance', is that legal for road use in the EU/UK unless licensed as I thought it was a max of 250Watts?
At least Froome doesn't have to worry about hiding his motor now.
Legal in the UK?
There's a bloke rides a shonky de-restricted ebike on my commute and I wouldn't want him anywhere near me on a fast group ride...
Doesn’t look like an e-bike, my 72 year old father in law would love this and we might actually go for +10mph rides together! How much?
That chain looks like it needs a link removing.
And that blokes cornering technque needs some work. He's clearly not pedaling given the slack chain so why's his inside pedal down?
At last, Pinarello recognise their core market!
Why? - It's only about 4kg heavier than normal which is much smaller than the difference between the heavy and light riders this frame is supposed to carry.
Because having a motor and batteries stuffed into the frame at the point a lot of the stresses occur increases issues with stress risers and load spreading, so the frame work needs beefing up at those points. It's *unlikely* that it's to do with the weight. But, in engineering terms, the road bike frame and inclusions itself weighs about 1 kg, you're turning that into a unit where the 'frame' weight is closer to 5 times that, so it's no unreasonable on that basis to expect that it might need some beefing up.
Jack Sexty, if you're listening, an actual article which gives details of where the motor is, where the batteries are, how the unit works (does it act on the wheels, on the BB etc) would be kinda nice....
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