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TECH NEWS
2021 Pinarello Dogma DiskBrake Grenadiers PRBX_03833Ineos Grenadiers are racing on disc brakes… finally
Team Ineos Grenadiers have confirmed they are making the switch to disc brakes at tomorrow’s Grand Prix de Denain, a key warm-up race in the lead up to Paris Roubaix on 3rd October. As the final WorldTour team to do so, could this be the move that marks the end of rim brakes in the professional peloton?
The British WorldTour team riders will be racing on the Pinarello Dogma F Disc in the one-day race in the lead up to Paris-Roubaix, despite riding rim brakes all this season, and all seasons before.
As mentioned already, Ineos Grenadiers previously held out on discs and are the last WorldTour team to make the switch. We know team manager Sir Dave Brailsford is a convert, because we spotted him riding the disc brake version of the Dogma F12 as far back as 2019.
This belated decision to move to disc brakes is said to have been made “after close consultation with the riders, performance team, Pinarello and Shimano”, according to the team’s press statement announcing the move.
“We are always looking at ways to improve our kit, technology and bike setup to ensure the riders have the very best options that are available,” said the team’s Head of Technical Partners.
“Working closely with Pinarello and Shimano, we will continue to develop the all-round disc package, optimising weight, the integration across Dura-Ace, and improvements in the quick release system.”
Fausto Pinarello himself added: “I’ve been convinced about disc brakes since I started riding them myself and I’m happy the team is going to race on them in the final part of this season.”
While the riders will be racing disc brakes at the GP de Denain, it is not clear if this marks the complete end for rim brakes for the British WorldTour team.
The GP de Denain is to be “the first race in the initial phase of the disc brake roll out for the team”, according to the Ineos statement; which isn't to say the disc version will be chosen for every race, taking the statement at face value.
Pinarello revealed its latest top-level road bike, the Dogma F, earlier this year in June with the disc brake version offering lower drag than the rim brake model for the first time.
The disc brake version is claimed to be “4.8% more aerodynamic” than the equivalent Dogma F12, while the rim brake version is “3.2% more aerodynamic”.
Pinarello updated its Onda fork from scratch for the Dogma F and at the launch it said it gave the two different versions, the rim brake and disc fork, equal priority.
However brands like Shimano are instead heavily focused on developing disc brake technology, with the latest Shimano Dura-Ace R9200 groupset release overhauling the calipers for better heat dissipation and easier access to the bleed ports, while the rim calipers have remained much the same.
Is it about time Ineos made the switch to discs, or should we save the rim brake? Let us know your thoughts in the comments as always...
Anna has been hooked on bikes ever since her youthful beginnings at Hillingdon Cycle Circuit. As an avid road and track racer, she reached the heady heights of a ProCyclingStats profile before leaving for university. Having now completed an MA in Multimedia Journalism, she’s hoping to add some (more successful) results. Although her greatest wish is for the broader acceptance of wearing funky cycling socks over the top of leg warmers.
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I love that this is actual news.
Let it go, both sides. Is disc brakes vs rim brakes really that important?
HERETIC! Let's burn him
Perhaps i should first check if I can float?
What do you think Pidcock won MTB races on?
A disk brake Pinarello road bike?
A BMC? Not sure of your point.
I was going to say that but then realised s/he meant what type of brakes, not bike, and it's a fair point, the headline for real accuracy should say "INEOS Grenadiers road team finally..." Although it is a moot point as to whether they have an MTB team, they say they have but it comprises TP and...that's it.
I’ll have a go at this question; a Mountain bike.
Good old fashioned british pluck, traditional values, and a thatcherite work ethic?
Something even more sickly than that, apparently.
https://www.redbull.com/gb-en/how-to-fuel-for-cycling-tips-tom-pidcock
Interesting links, although I might have been doing MTBing all wrong...
I'm currently building up a frameset with disc brakes for the first time.
The Ineos mechanics have my deepest sympathies; I hope the riders experience all the well publicised benefits.
Presumably now that the pro-peloton are/will all be on 12speed disc brake drive trains, the neutral service will be far easier? As for the 'make more money' idea, that was already the case. Practically all new wheelsets released are disc-brake only. It won't be long before all the bike manufacturers will build disc brake only. Cervelo is already there.
Srams 12speed axs group set requires a special ax's cassette as the teeth are shaped differently.
not sure about shimano / campag comparability,
gone are the days of 11 speed mix and match cassettes / chains / cog|spricket spacing
If it's Shimano neutral service will there be any SRAM wheelsets?
I assume most of the teams will still be on 11speed at the moment
No they're not.
Yes it will, if ever.
gotta cash in on those sweet sweet disc dollars. From road.cc's article in the new F frame set, so the figures above in this article must be just frameset before you add the "spinning discs of death" on the wheels, also known as disc brake rotors - "Interestingly, Pinarello says that the disc brake version of the Dogma F has lower drag than the rim brake model – 7.3% lower if you consider just the frame and fork. The difference is far less dramatic when you take the complete bike plus the rider into account; in those circumstances, the disc system has an advantage of just 0.2%."
About time.
“We are always looking at ways to
improve our kit, technology and bike setup to ensure the riders have the very best options that are available,sell more bikes” said the team’s Head of Technical Partners.How does this sell more bikes? And if it did, why is that a bad thing?
Fairly obvious, isn't it? If the team switches to disc brakes, more Pinarello fans are going to convince themselves that discs are better and want to replace their rim braked bikes with disc braked ones. Nobody ever lost money by leveraging the desire of we mortals to steal a little fire from the gods...
I see in your reply a recognition that this is not a one way street with the gods forcing the poor fans to scourge themselves one more time to buy n+1.
I see the relationship more akin to grazers and the savannah, neither would survive without the other. If the brands don't yield up some excuse for their fans to digest every so often neither would survive. It could be that Pinarello finally caved to their fan base, hungry for an excuse to feed again.
in other news: businesses exist to make money.