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by RafatheRed
Tue, Oct 23, 2018 16:20
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Hi,After years of MTB i have now turned to road cycling. I made a massive mistake in buying the wrong size frame for my first road bike,however i have completed 3 sportives on it and have now decided to sell and buy a new stead. Im hoping to have £1700 to spend dependent on sell off curent bike.

So im looking for comfort,disc and endurance riding.

I have looked at the following rides -

Giant Content SL1 Disc - £1250 -Love the colour and spec,but hate the look of the conduct system. Can i change this to full hydro?.Also cranks not 105

Canyon Endurance AL Disc 7.0 - £1349 - Looks fantastic ,however im concerned with it as its an internet sale,no free service,what if it arrives faulty.

Emonda ALR 5 Disc - £1750 - This looks a great bike which i would not have to upgrade,but is it ok for endurance riding?

Giant Defy Advanced 3 - £1499 - Same brake system as Contend,Tiagra groupset

Cannondale Synapse Disc 105 - Are theTektro Spyre-C cable actuated disc any good?

Do i spend less and use spare cash to upgrade or spend more.

My current bike is a CUBE ATTAIN SL - 105 throughout. I like 105 but is Tiagra ok.

 

Thanks for any help

 

 

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Graz_Lag replied to AfterPeak | 6 years ago
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SpikeBike wrote:

I can't comment on the other bikes but I also have the canyon but the rim version. You just can't beat canyon for value with full groupset. Could also look at rose and ribble even planet x but all doesn't get around your Internet buy worries. If you do go for a canyon follow their sizing advice. It was spot on for me (although I did swap out the stem).

In a sport where we like to measure down to the last Watt we gain with one tyre or with another, would you mind explaining how you can get the best out of your body by performing on a bike you have chosen on a chart sizing on the net ?  1 

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don simon fbpe replied to Graz_Lag | 6 years ago
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Graz_Lag wrote:

SpikeBike wrote:

I can't comment on the other bikes but I also have the canyon but the rim version. You just can't beat canyon for value with full groupset. Could also look at rose and ribble even planet x but all doesn't get around your Internet buy worries. If you do go for a canyon follow their sizing advice. It was spot on for me (although I did swap out the stem).

In a sport where we like to measure down to the last Watt we gain with one tyre or with another, would you mind explaining how you can get the best out of your body by performing on a bike you have chosen on a chart sizing on the net ?  1 

Do what the pros do?

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AfterPeak replied to Graz_Lag | 6 years ago
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Graz_Lag wrote:

SpikeBike wrote:

I can't comment on the other bikes but I also have the canyon but the rim version. You just can't beat canyon for value with full groupset. Could also look at rose and ribble even planet x but all doesn't get around your Internet buy worries. If you do go for a canyon follow their sizing advice. It was spot on for me (although I did swap out the stem).

In a sport where we like to measure down to the last Watt we gain with one tyre or with another, would you mind explaining how you can get the best out of your body by performing on a bike you have chosen on a chart sizing on the net ?  1 

 

I am not really sure what you mean? You have to start somewhere with a bike and the frame is where you start especially if you can't get access to it. Canyon have (probably) done quite a lot of work in taking measurements and finding the correct frame size for a person. So yes pick a frame based on the chart sizing and the inputted measurements. Following that change Seatpost height, fore/aft saddle position, crank length, stem length, stem spacers and handlebar width/drop.

 

You will be hard pressed to find a bike/frame perfect for you off the peg unless you have one custom built for you.

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Graz_Lag replied to AfterPeak | 6 years ago
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SpikeBike wrote:

Graz_Lag wrote:

SpikeBike wrote:

I can't comment on the other bikes but I also have the canyon but the rim version. You just can't beat canyon for value with full groupset. Could also look at rose and ribble even planet x but all doesn't get around your Internet buy worries. If you do go for a canyon follow their sizing advice. It was spot on for me (although I did swap out the stem).

In a sport where we like to measure down to the last Watt we gain with one tyre or with another, would you mind explaining how you can get the best out of your body by performing on a bike you have chosen on a chart sizing on the net ?  1 

 

I am not really sure what you mean? You have to start somewhere with a bike and the frame is where you start especially if you can't get access to it. Canyon have (probably) done quite a lot of work in taking measurements and finding the correct frame size for a person. So yes pick a frame based on the chart sizing and the inputted measurements. Following that change Seatpost height, fore/aft saddle position, crank length, stem length, stem spacers and handlebar width/drop.

 

You will be hard pressed to find a bike/frame perfect for you off the peg unless you have one custom built for you.

 

Sure, you start with a frame with horizontal top tube and forget the sloping top tube frames.

For a road bike with horizontal top tube frame : Seat Tube H = 0.88 x leg inseam, which dictates the value for the most efficient pedaling.

From there, it's quite easy to determine the stem L, the seat post exposed L, the handlebar W/D ...

After the sliced bread, the sloping frame is the best invention ... for the frame builders ... and the worst for us, the riders ... 

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EddyBerckx | 6 years ago
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Canyon every day!!

They have various demo days throughout the year at various locations, might be worth having a look at their website

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RafatheRed | 6 years ago
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I guess I meant Canyon don’t offer a free service like a LBS can if you buy from a shop. And I know I can send it back but as Canyon is based in Germany it all takes up valuable riding time and seems more hassle. I know I’m looking at the worst case but it can happen I guess. 

Yea,I’m going the groupset,I think you are both right. I’m torn between the contend and elmonda. Of course Domane would of been nice but they are too expensive now.

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TLem | 6 years ago
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Hi! I'm not sure what you mean by no free service for the Canyon. It it arrives faulty, just return it – you can return it during the first 30 days even if there is no any fault. I have the same model you are considering, and I'm happy with it.

Regarding groupset, I agree with the previous commenter: better buy a bike with components that you don't need to immediately upgrade.

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RafatheRed | 6 years ago
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Hi,Yes I very much doubt I could try the Canyon so that cuts that one out and I would prefer a 105 group set so that drops the Defy. Being a mountain biker too I used too full hydraulic brakes ,however the Contend with the conduct system (which is just ugly looking) is a bit of both. This leads me to the Émonda,now I’m not the most flexible chap and have had a back operation a few years back so could this bike be ridden comfortably on a 60 mile sportive?

My LBS don’t have the new Giants or Treks in yet so I can’t try yet.

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rdmp2 replied to RafatheRed | 6 years ago
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What brands does your lbs stock? Nothing of interest there? If the lack of a free service puts you off the canyon then factor in the cost of a minor service with your lbs to the price. Canyon are good value as they cut out the middle man but if you value that service then treat the eg £100 6 week service as part of the upfront cost

 

RafatheRed wrote:

Hi,Yes I very much doubt I could try the Canyon so that cuts that one out and I would prefer a 105 group set so that drops the Defy. Being a mountain biker too I used too full hydraulic brakes ,however the Contend with the conduct system (which is just ugly looking) is a bit of both. This leads me to the Émonda,now I’m not the most flexible chap and have had a back operation a few years back so could this bike be ridden comfortably on a 60 mile sportive?

My LBS don’t have the new Giants or Treks in yet so I can’t try yet.

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hawkinspeter | 6 years ago
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My advice is to ignore the Canyon unless you can try it before you buy it. You'll get better value for your money if you buy the bike with the groupset that you want as upgrading can work out costly (depending on how easy it is to sell the old components).

I haven't tried cable based disc brakes, but there seem to be some gotchas with them - periodic adjusting and variable performance across brands. I've tried Tektro rim brakes on an older Synapse and they weren't much good (great bike, though). I'd go for the hydraulic discs every time.

Ultimately you need to try out some different bikes and see which one makes you grin the most.

 

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