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Purist Tour de France 2013
Just tried to sit down and pick a Purist team for the TdF and it's hard!
Lots of high value riders, very few very cheap riders and not many bargains to be had, this is going to be a tough race to get right from a fantasy point of view.
My thinking at the minute is Froome plus 1 high value rider (Sagan/Cavendish or maybe Contador/Voeckler) then some mid and low priced riders but there's not much quality lower down, might have to rethink and go for lots of mid-range guys...
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The good thing about coppel loosing time is that they have to ride for Navarro in GC, who I think will top 15, and have some decent stage results
interesting, all the leader in the purist league have pick 5 fast men and padded out wilt low cost. They will pay in the mountains, but do you think this is a viable strategy, rather than say picking 2pc, 1 gc, 2 km, etc etc, intrigued an time will tell
I went all GC and climbers. I feel the only mistake was not picking Sagen. I think the out and out sprinters will ultimately score less. The test will be at the end of the Tour when we find out who scored more. Froome or Sagen
It's NOT going too well when my Lampre DS's are scoring way more points then my star rider (Froome; I don't think Sky will be repeating last year's success.
I think Froome has probably got more points than expected at this point.....his tour starts today.
If your 'Lampre DS' is Serpa then I expect him to go well today.
Just because no-one replied yesterday, doesn't mean you just edit it to bump it back up the list.
I understand you may have had a word in your ear? Please listen to it
Lol.
http://road.cc/content/forum/87225-anyone-fancy-it-ne-scotland#comment-1...
Pot. Kettle. Black.
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I started off with Sagan and Cav in my team - got neither now
Kittel is a surprise he normally bottles it and packs in unless i'm thinking of someone else. Good team though, you should do well.
kittel's lead man for the flat stages and degenkolb first choice for the lumpier ones, according to the team. certainly the odds for the first stage suggest it's kittel going for the win.
Looks like a solid team, Sagan and Cav are a good base but leave you short of credits so you've got a few cheap guys. I think that Rogers is an interesting pick, he may score but if Contador is in form he might be reduced to riding back up. Martin is another interesting one, I like him and was tempted to pick him but he's still a little unproven. Last year Martin was reduced to chasing breaks because he dropped out of contention early but he looks in better form this year and some have said he may chase the mountains jersey (although I think he's said he's aiming for top 10 overall).
All in all, a good looking team but to do well you're relying heavily on Rogers and Martin stepping up because a few people will have a Sagan/Cav combo so those points are kind of neutralised.
Yea thats the problem with a lot of the GC guys
You can never tell how a purist team might do, looking at your team you could do appallingly or you could end up with a five way battle (Voeckler, Costa, Coppel, Westra, Hoogerland) for the KoM jersey and thrash everyone by a country mile.
From the intermediate sprints
Yes - hopefully they'll manage to cope without a fully fit G in the TTT...
That was my plan initially - due to the high intermediate sprint points the sprinters can score on virtually every stage- but I panicked and brought in Froome and Talansky at the last minute. Will be interested to see if Cav/Kristoff will turn out to have been a better choice...
Well, I hope so as he's in my standard team but not my purist. Done ok with Sagan so far. Now Froome, Porte and Quintana have their chance.
As it turned out an unbalanced team seems to be the better choice. As I play with 2 purist teams I also made an unbalanced team which I'm quite content with now:
Froome
Sagan
Quintana
Vichot
Cimolai
Gadret
Hoogerland
Le Mevel
Gutierrez
Thanks!
That's the impression I always have with Kittel.....flaky but fast when in the mood.....more of a stage 1 rider for standard team's
My purists are shaping ip like this:
Cavendish
Sagan
Dennis
Jeannesson
Hoogerland
LeMevel
Cunego
Gadret
Schleck
I think not having Quintana is probably my main headache.
Would love to drop Rogers for Porte, bring in Bertie, but it just does not work, damn budgets!
LAST MINUTE CHANGE
Out:LeMevel/Jeannesson
In:Navarro/Bonnet
It might muck your team up a bit but i've gone for Bennati. He is 18.6 credits and in my opinion a better sprinter than Kittel. Just a thought for you to ponder
I've got a tenner on Rogers to finish top ten in GC - at 14/1.
Thanks Stumps! I'd say Kittel is faster than Bennati, and will have the whole team working for him on 5-6 stages, whereas Bennati will get over the lumps better and is more likely to get to Paris, but does he still have the finishing power? And with his teammates looking after Alberto? Down to personal taste, and Bennati has done naff-all for me every time I've picked him, including dropping out of last year's Giro after about 6 stages when I had him in purist. So my decision is based at least partly on spite... Possibly not the most sensible criteria on which to base my selections...
Picked my final team. I'll show my cards because, honestly, it's all in fun. We'll call this the stars, scrubs and Schleck approach. Feel free to critique:
Froome
Sagan
Quintana
Dennis
Schleck
Hoogerland
El Fares
Mederel
Fischer
None of those. I Went for three riders almost guaranteed more than one outright win. Plus Likely breakaways.
Really hard. I'll probably change it all again, but at the moment down to a choice between Porte, Dan Martin and Quintana (or anyone cheaper, I guess) for my purist team. Any thoughts?
Dr, they were just 2 examples rather than list the whole lot mate. I get what you mean though about sacrificing one just to get another who MIGHT do something.
People have complained about the values but i think its great, we are really having to think about who to put in to get a balanced team.
I think its pretty good (as opposed to great), I just wish the list of sub-5 credit riders was a bit longer. I'll shut up now before I turn into Enrique.
Ok, here I go again... It's taken me a while, but, here's my stab at what might have been the Best Purist Team Possible for the 2013 Tour!
40.0 Peter Sagan
28.8 Michal Kwiatkowski
25.3 Nairo Alexander Quintana Rojas
17.2 Marcel Kittel
11.7 Mikel Nieve Ituralde
9.1 Danny Van Poppel
8.4 Christophe Riblon
5.2 William Bonnet
3.7 Julien El Fares
For a total of 1881 points! Good enough to have come in No. 779 in the Overall Competition! With no transfers!
You know, I could have never imagined a Purist Team without Froome on it!
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