We reviewed the titanium Sabbath September here on road.cc last year and were liked it a lot. Editor Tony loved it. Now we have the disc-braked version in on test and we’ll be interested to find out how it compares.
Our man Stu said that the standard braked version was engaging, fun and functional. He also said that it as sweet handling and comfortable. In fact, we were so impressed that we gave it 11th spot in road.cc Bike of the Year.
Macclesfield-based Sabbath say that the September is “a truly utilitarian bike” aimed at “utility and audax riders looking for year round riding.” It’s made from 3Al 2.5V straight gauge seamless titanium.
Why add disc brakes? Well, Sabbath see the September as a year-round model so it's likely to be ridden in all sorts of weathers. Plus, lots of people use a bike like the September for commuting and light touring, and the the increased power of disc brakes makes a lot of sense when you’re carrying a load.
We showed you a prototype of the September Disc in December last year. Since then Sabbath have increased the tyre clearance. Previously it could take 28mm tyres but now the chainstays have been lengthened from 425mm to 430mm and they can accept 35mm tyres with mudguards fitted. The idea is that this will allow riders to take advantage of the disc brakes and offer greater ‘do it all’ versatility.
Sabbath say that the rear dropouts needed beefing up a little so they increased their thickness. They also created a little more overlap between the dropout and chainstay joint to resist the braking forces associated with the discs, and you now get a replaceable rear mech hanger which you didn’t get with the original September frame.
Sabbath have increased the diameter of the top tube on the finished September Disc from 31.8mm up to 34.9mm, and they’ve now ovalised it horizontally at the head tube end with the aim of increasing lateral stiffness in this area. Visually, that increased diameter now better matches the 40mm diameter of the down tube.
Speaking of the down tube, that’s largely unchanged from that of the prototype frame we showed you except that Sabbath have ovalised the tube horizontally at the bottom bracket for increased stiffness in that area.
The rear brake cabling is now neatly tucked away in between the two gear cables along the underside of the down tube. It passes under the bottom bracket to the inside face of the left chainstay, then heads up to meet the disc brake cable stop. Sabbath say that approaching the brake from this angle creates a smoother run for the cable than running it along the top of the chainstay. They have also fitted adjustable gear cable stops on the down tube.
Our test bike is built up with a Whisky Parts Co carbon fork and a Shimano 105 groupset. The brakes are TRP Hy/Rd mechanical interface hydraulic discs – so they’re cable actuated with hydraulic power in the calliper.
The wheels are Stan’s NoTubes ZTR Alpha 400 rims on Hope Pro2 Evo hubs, and they’re fitted with Continental Gatorskin tyres – a conservative 25mm width.
The handlebar, stem and seatpost are all aluminium options from Pro’s LT range and the saddle is a Selle Italia SLS.
In that build the weight is 9.34kg (20.5lb).
The September Disc will be available as three complete builds, none of them exactly the same as the bike we have here. The closest to it is the Sabbath September Disc 105 Hy/Rd, which is nearly the same as our test bike but it comes with a Kinesis DC37 fork, a Selle Italia XO Gel saddle and SKS P35 mudguards. That one is priced at £2,799.
A Shimano Tiagra build with TRP Spyre brakes and Mavic Open Sport/Shimano XT wheels is £2,299, while a version with a Shimano 105 group, Spyre brakes and Mavic Open Pro/Shimano XT wheels is £2,499.
These complete bikes are subject to change and Sabbath are also open to other (including bespoke) options.
While you might think the idea of a do it all road bike made from titanium might seem like a niche proposition it’s actually the sort of machine that sets the pulse racing for quite a few cyclists - the Sabbath has already set some hearts fluttering in these parts.
it doesn’t have the Ti all-rounder field to itself though, and while you couldn’t say that field is crowded there’s certainly a few to choose from. Also in on test here at road.cc is the Kinesis Tripster ATR (available as a frameset), depending on which end of the all-rounder spectrum you prefer Salsa have the Fargo Ti and the Colossal Ti - you can have the cheapest September full build for little more than £300 more than the frameset price for the Colossal Ti. If you’re not so bothered about disc brakes Van Nicholas have the competitively priced Amazon and Yukon - and disc braked versions of both can’t be far away.
Stu is reviewing the Sabbath September Disc. It makes sense, seeing as he rode the original. He'll be back with his review soon. In the meantime, go to www.sabbathbicycles.co.uk for more info.
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One bike to rule them all!
And in the darkness of everlasting credit card debt bind them.
Although it would probably be worth it.
If I didn't already have a VN Yukon....
I'm in love
That's very nice. I've a 725 Croix de Fer and one of these would be a lovely upgrade (or a lynskey) On a more realistic note I'm very interested in those calipers.
Eddie A. wrote:
Do your self a big favor and replace the tires with some tubeless tires. There have been quite a lot of incidents when Conti folding clinchers jumped from NoTubes Alpha rims. Neither Conti nor Schwalbe regard this combination as safe. They clearly advise against it.
And even NoTubes has adopted that point of view if I remember correctly.
Hi Eddie,
Thanks for the note. The tyres we fitted are wire bead conti gatorskinz which were fitted with inner tubes so they should stay put.
The specification of the complete bike is not finalised yet. We may elect to specifiy a different wheelset altogether we are looking at the options out there at the moment.
WJ
Do your self a big favor and replace the tires with some tubeless tires. There have been quite a lot of incidents when Conti folding clinchers jumped from NoTubes Alpha rims. Neither Conti nor Schwalbe regard this combination as safe. They clearly advise against it.
And even NoTubes has adopted that point of view if I remember correctly.
Thankfully they stayed put when I was nudging 50mph on it this morning!!
If work finally get around to paying me off then £2,500 is going on one of these
Not at all 'Niche', would be an essential 'Lifetime' bike for the 21st century.
The discs on the cross bike have sold themselves in the couple of months I've had that (Kona Major Jake). Would replace a 10 year old Ribble that I paid £129 for frame and forks (and which has ended up with full Ultegra on)..
Would just be difficult justifying this and the cross bike and the hi-end HT29er, and the 'comfort' race bike (oxymoron I know)... N minus 1..
I too have an older Sabbath, just love it. been out today, gonna go out tomorrow.
Soon to upgrade the wheels to Mavic Kserium's as worn out the rims on RS10s. Thsi wouldn't happen with discs so yeah, there's another advantage to the new fangled stoppers. long term money savers.
PS great customer service from Sabbath, I called for prices on new decals, they sent them FOC. Now thats unexpected super service. Wonderful all round
I'm gonna buy an extra lottery ticket tonight.
Yes please, this or a Ti ATR. With Macc being 90 minutes ride from my house that's a big plus. Triple gearing for me though. I know compact double esp now 11 speed give a good high to low range but on an all rounder/light tourer I'd prefer a large range AND close ratio spacing. My preferred bikes would be a year rounder like this fitted with a triple and a summer best bike with compact 11 speed double.
Got the original and couldnt be happier. Then again a pro2/open pro rear to match front. hmmmmmm
Want one....
Dead handsome that one.
That is a nice looking bike. Good proportions.
I'm just glad I'm not looking at this at work. As if they need another reason to fire me.