London mayor Sadiq Khan unveils fresh CS11 plans - but Andrew Gilligan slams them as "a dog's dinner"

Zjtm231 wrote:

Khan is a bare-faced lier. His attitude to cycling so far has confirmed the fact he couldn't give a damn about cycling or cyclists. Anyone else who cares about cycling who voted for him should be utterly ashamed of themselves.

This.

'Though at least he's not Goldsmith.' seconded.

It was plain that neither Tory or Labour candidate gave a damn about cycling.

dottigirl wrote:

It was plain that neither Tory or Labour candidate gave a damn about cycling.

Johnson did bugger all for 6 1/2 years remember. The segregated tracks only arrived in the last 18 months - after all else had failed.

ktache wrote:

"@philjones79 you are condemning Camden residents to congestion"

Because at the moment they have the true freedom of the open road, just like in the adverts.

Even the generally anti cyclist idiots on top gear came to the conclusion that more people on bikes meant less people driving cars.  If you build it, they will come.

Don't I remeber  recent survey of that area that showed residents in favour ? Is not the truth those against come from outside these areas and the poor dears don't care a jot for the pollution etc that true residents have to put up with because of cars etc.

ktache wrote:

"@philjones79 you are condemning Camden residents to congestion"

Because at the moment they have the true freedom of the open road, just like in the adverts.

Even the generally anti cyclist idiots on top gear came to the conclusion that more people on bikes meant less people driving cars.  If you build it, they will come.

There's no reasoning with this shower I'm afraid.

Utter pre-trump, post-truth shite from the marching band of hampstead pro-rat-runners, pro-deprivation of mobility for children, parents and grand-parents.

They claimed that CS11 would cause rat-running (after hearing this phrase shouted at one of their meetings at them) - and pervertedly used it to demand their right to continue doing just that.

(they also ignored the actual FACT that TfL suggested there and then that they would work with Camden to mitigate issues of displaced traffic).

The pro-pollution brigade also complained about a broad geographcal range of respondents  voting for the scheme, yet hypocritically kept silent about the fact that their own mob of over-privileged  delinquents were sending their votes from overseas amongst other places. 

But the worst of it is, that Sadiq and TfL for some bizarre reason unbeknown to the rest of us, has, despite the very fact of overwhelming support for CS11, felt the need to ignore the needs of the public for breathable air, for that majprity of adults and children denied their easy, low cost form of regular exercise  (150 minutes pw recommended by TfL's own health officials), etc et bloody cetera...they have decided to listen to the people that bullied and hectored the TfL speakers at meetings.

These are the people that demand their right to speed through a park FFS. But do so by painting the CS11 suppoters as the ones who (will) cause pollution and rat-running.

How has this been allowed to happen?

emishi55 wrote:

ktache wrote:

"@philjones79 you are condemning Camden residents to congestion"

Because at the moment they have the true freedom of the open road, just like in the adverts.

Even the generally anti cyclist idiots on top gear came to the conclusion that more people on bikes meant less people driving cars.  If you build it, they will come.

 

There's no reasoning with this shower I'm afraid.

Utter pre-trump, post-truth shite from the marching band of hampstead pro-rat-runners, pro-deprivation of mobility for children, parents and grand-parents.

They claimed that CS11 would cause rat-running (after hearing this phrase shouted at one of their meetings at them) - and pervertedly used it to demand their right to continue doing just that.

(they also ignored the actual FACT that TfL suggested there and then that they would work with Camden to mitigate issues of displaced traffic).

The pro-pollution brigade also complained about a broad geographcal range of respondents  voting for the scheme, yet hypocritically kept silent about the fact that their own mob of over-privileged  delinquents were sending their votes from overseas amongst other places. 

 

But the worst of it is, that Sadiq and TfL for some bizarre reason unbeknown to the rest of us, has, despite the very fact of overwhelming support for CS11, felt the need to ignore the needs of the public for breathable air, for that majprity of adults and children denied their easy, low cost form of regular exercise  (150 minutes pw recommended by TfL's own health officials), etc et bloody cetera...they have decided to listen to the people that bullied and hectored the TfL speakers at meetings.

These are the people that demand their right to speed through a park FFS. But do so by painting the CS11 suppoters as the ones who (will) cause pollution and rat-running.

How has this been allowed to happen?

 

     

In 1848 Winchester was struck by cholera, which left 34 people dead -- the culmination of a problem that had developed with the city's growing population. The removal of waste by cart was no longer an adequate solution to the drainage requirements and the following year a specially-appointed committee reported on the need for mains sewers. Their recommendations were not acted on for another 30 years. 
 The 30-year delay in the provision of sewage occurred because of fierce factional fighting at local elections. Muckabites considered mains drainage unnecessary and likely to raise the rates and triumphed in the polls. They were opposed by Anti-Muckabites, mostly medical men who saw the ravages of bad sanitation, namely the inhabitants of the lower city who suffered from it. Only in the late 1870s did national legislation bring sewers to Winchester.

Cycle paths have superseded sewers and the Muckabites are back.