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hawkinspeter wrote:

Secondly, allow members of the public to submit videos of the badly parked vehicle from their phones with minimal fuss and provide a "finders fee" of maybe £10  for the first person to submit that instance of bad parking. If there's any evidence of people forging the videos, then maybe write a simple phone app that uses encryption to deter reverse-engineering of the protocol and thus provide an authenticated video stream.

NB. video is to be preferred as it's harder to photo-shop - especially if it involves walking around the vehicle to show several angles.

New York City do that already. They're rubbish with a lot of things, especially when it comes to cycling but there was a story of one guy who makes hundreds of dollars a week by reporting illegal parking.

hawkinspeter wrote:

Secondly, allow members of the public to submit videos of the badly parked vehicle from their phones with minimal fuss and provide a "finders fee" of maybe £10  for the first person to submit that instance of bad parking. If there's any evidence of people forging the videos, then maybe write a simple phone app that uses encryption to deter reverse-engineering of the protocol and thus provide an authenticated video stream.

NB. video is to be preferred as it's harder to photo-shop - especially if it involves walking around the vehicle to show several angles.

Love this idea, more civil that simply keying the thing as you walk passed.

Think something similar should apply to dashcam/bikecam footage that results in conviction - might make me finally get one.

As for the app idea, you could have it that it's the app that records the footage, so it has to be live footage to be submitted - streamed if you will and only stored on the receiving end.

kt26 wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

Secondly, allow members of the public to submit videos of the badly parked vehicle from their phones with minimal fuss and provide a "finders fee" of maybe £10  for the first person to submit that instance of bad parking. If there's any evidence of people forging the videos, then maybe write a simple phone app that uses encryption to deter reverse-engineering of the protocol and thus provide an authenticated video stream.

NB. video is to be preferred as it's harder to photo-shop - especially if it involves walking around the vehicle to show several angles.

Love this idea, more civil that simply keying the thing as you walk passed.

Think something similar should apply to dashcam/bikecam footage that results in conviction - might make me finally get one.

As for the app idea, you could have it that it's the app that records the footage, so it has to be live footage to be submitted - streamed if you will and only stored on the receiving end.

It could be problematic giving a cash reward for dashcam footage as it could be seen as encouraging conflict on the road. I can imagine certain drivers complaining that cyclists are just out to earn a bit of cash by winding up drivers.

hawkinspeter wrote:

kt26 wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

It could be problematic giving a cash reward for dashcam footage as it could be seen as encouraging conflict on the road. I can imagine certain drivers complaining that cyclists are just out to earn a bit of cash by winding up drivers.

Probably. Though I dare say we are mostly over that bridge already with the lack of policing placing alot of onus on the public and their dashcam footage.

As I see it there are two options, either police the road correctly or if you are going to rely on the public to buy otherwise unnecessary items to do it for you, compensate them for making that purchase.

hawkinspeter wrote:

If we want to get serious about badly parked vehicles then I have a solution:

Firstly, implement a rising fine scale, so the first time you're caught you get fined say £50. The 2nd time you're caught it goes up to £100, then £200, then £400 ..... maybe have a cap of £5000 and just tow and scrap/sell the vehicle once the owner reaches that cap.

Secondly, allow members of the public to submit videos of the badly parked vehicle from their phones with minimal fuss and provide a "finders fee" of maybe £10  for the first person to submit that instance of bad parking. If there's any evidence of people forging the videos, then maybe write a simple phone app that uses encryption to deter reverse-engineering of the protocol and thus provide an authenticated video stream.

NB. video is to be preferred as it's harder to photo-shop - especially if it involves walking around the vehicle to show several angles.

Nobody around in our area to do any "catching".  This was a recent example in my road.  Inconvenienced a lot of pedestrians.

alchemilla wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

If we want to get serious about badly parked vehicles then I have a solution:

Firstly, implement a rising fine scale, so the first time you're caught you get fined say £50. The 2nd time you're caught it goes up to £100, then £200, then £400 ..... maybe have a cap of £5000 and just tow and scrap/sell the vehicle once the owner reaches that cap.

Secondly, allow members of the public to submit videos of the badly parked vehicle from their phones with minimal fuss and provide a "finders fee" of maybe £10  for the first person to submit that instance of bad parking. If there's any evidence of people forging the videos, then maybe write a simple phone app that uses encryption to deter reverse-engineering of the protocol and thus provide an authenticated video stream.

NB. video is to be preferred as it's harder to photo-shop - especially if it involves walking around the vehicle to show several angles.

Nobody around in our area to do any "catching".  This was a recent example in my road.  Inconvenienced a lot of pedestrians.

I'll see your van and raise you a BristolPost article: https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/must-bristols-worst-ever-parking-8611

hawkinspeter wrote:

alchemilla wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

If we want to get serious about badly parked vehicles then I have a solution:

Firstly, implement a rising fine scale, so the first time you're caught you get fined say £50. The 2nd time you're caught it goes up to £100, then £200, then £400 ..... maybe have a cap of £5000 and just tow and scrap/sell the vehicle once the owner reaches that cap.

Secondly, allow members of the public to submit videos of the badly parked vehicle from their phones with minimal fuss and provide a "finders fee" of maybe £10  for the first person to submit that instance of bad parking. If there's any evidence of people forging the videos, then maybe write a simple phone app that uses encryption to deter reverse-engineering of the protocol and thus provide an authenticated video stream.

NB. video is to be preferred as it's harder to photo-shop - especially if it involves walking around the vehicle to show several angles.

Nobody around in our area to do any "catching".  This was a recent example in my road.  Inconvenienced a lot of pedestrians.

I'll see your van and raise you a BristolPost article: https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/must-bristols-worst-ever-parking-8611

 

WTF!!! Okay, the street it's blocked (I work nearby, FWIW) is narrow and quiet. But it's not too narrow to drive down. Not normally... Just insane. 

alchemilla wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

If we want to get serious about badly parked vehicles then I have a solution:

Firstly, implement a rising fine scale, so the first time you're caught you get fined say £50. The 2nd time you're caught it goes up to £100, then £200, then £400 ..... maybe have a cap of £5000 and just tow and scrap/sell the vehicle once the owner reaches that cap.

Secondly, allow members of the public to submit videos of the badly parked vehicle from their phones with minimal fuss and provide a "finders fee" of maybe £10  for the first person to submit that instance of bad parking. If there's any evidence of people forging the videos, then maybe write a simple phone app that uses encryption to deter reverse-engineering of the protocol and thus provide an authenticated video stream.

NB. video is to be preferred as it's harder to photo-shop - especially if it involves walking around the vehicle to show several angles.

Nobody around in our area to do any "catching".  This was a recent example in my road.  Inconvenienced a lot of pedestrians.

Key down the side.  It's the only way to be sure 

brooksby wrote:

alchemilla wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

If we want to get serious about badly parked vehicles then I have a solution:

Firstly, implement a rising fine scale, so the first time you're caught you get fined say £50. The 2nd time you're caught it goes up to £100, then £200, then £400 ..... maybe have a cap of £5000 and just tow and scrap/sell the vehicle once the owner reaches that cap.

Secondly, allow members of the public to submit videos of the badly parked vehicle from their phones with minimal fuss and provide a "finders fee" of maybe £10  for the first person to submit that instance of bad parking. If there's any evidence of people forging the videos, then maybe write a simple phone app that uses encryption to deter reverse-engineering of the protocol and thus provide an authenticated video stream.

NB. video is to be preferred as it's harder to photo-shop - especially if it involves walking around the vehicle to show several angles.

Nobody around in our area to do any "catching".  This was a recent example in my road.  Inconvenienced a lot of pedestrians.

Key down the side.  It's the only way to be sure 

You know, I don't think they're really arsed about how the van looks...

eburtthebike wrote:

The Frankfurt solution should be applied universally, except that you'd need an armada of trucks to cope with the illegal parking.  And it would help if the government finally made pavement parking illegal, like they said they would do twenty years ago.  Worst local example I saw was an SUV parked on a corner with double yellow lines, half on the pavement.

Zero chance of it being made illegal in the UK. We can't have nice things in this country.

Jackson wrote:

Zero chance of it being made illegal in the UK. We can't have nice things in this country.

Absolutely, how on earth would the Wankpanzer division cope?