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"This has got to stop": Met Cycle Safety Team on "outrageous behaviour" towards cyclists; 'Traffic warden' accused of multiple assaults; Row continues over Bournemouth active travel plans; Reaction to Froome and Thomas missing TDF + more on the live blog

Welcome to Wednesday's live blog, with Jack Sexty in charge and Simon MacMichael adding some pearls of wisdom later this evening...

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19 August 2020, 14:51
Met Cycle Safety Team describe growing reports of incidents involving cyclists as "quite depressing"

We believe the Met's Cycle Safety Team were referring to the incident we reported on this morning, and also another incident in which a mother claimed her daughter was knocked off her bike by a driver who left the scene - the latter happened in Richmond Park, which has been controversially reopened to rat-running drivers

Dr Helen Williams left further comments explaining that she was "very relieved" that her daughter hadn't broken any bones after having X-rays in hospital. She also added: "The driver has been traced. But after 3 hrs of statement taking, the police won’t do anything as she doesn’t have the contact details of the (quite a few) witnesses." 

Others have recommended that Dr Williams should try to trace witnesses and launch an appeal. One replied: "I was there yesterday and saw how the cars have zero patience with cyclists and sit behind their wheels getting twitchy and impatient about trying to over take. Hope the parks come to their senses and ban cars ASAP! It was so peaceful without them during lockdown!"

Are the Royal Parks partially to blame for these shocking incidents by allowing motor traffic back into Richmond Park? 

19 August 2020, 14:42
Active travel advocates in Mexico don't mess around

Those responsible for the new guerilla bike lane believed there was previously no space to accommodate wider pedal-powered vehicles such as tricycles, so they took matter into their own hands. They say: "It is necessary that the design of the streets guarantee space and safety for all people, tricycles cannot be left out."

Similar action was taken way back in 2011, when activists painted a 5km guerrilla cycle lane in the heart of Mexico City to highlight the lack of progress in building a promised cycle network. Meanwhile in Wandsworth...

19 August 2020, 14:06
An excellent analogy for reducing car use

Do you agree with the easyJet theory?

19 August 2020, 13:16
More anger over pedestrianisation: businesses on Bristol's St Mark's Road "threaten to leave" if road is closed to through-traffic
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St Mark's Road - famous for its annual street party and ethnic food stores - has been earmarked for pedestrianisation by Bristol City Council, which has faced criticism from a business on the street and a group representing shops and restaurants in the city. 

Pak Butchers founder Abdul Malik told the Bristol Post: “We are very passionate about walking and cycling. To launch this scheme without talking to us makes it seem like we are against those things.

"This petition is nothing to do with being anti-cycling. This is about sustaining business after Covid. We are so adamant this will close the doors of our shop on St Marks Road.

“It’s too early for this. There may be a time when a lot more people are on bikes and walking, but the educational process takes time.”

The Bristol Association of Restaurants, Bars and Independent Establishments (BARBIE) have started a petition against the plans, saying: “That would be the end of St Marks Road.

"The shops would become rented flats, and pedestrianised space would be useless.”

Would it really be "the end" of St Mark's Road if it was closed to through-traffic from motor vehicles? There are stats that would suggest otherwise, and plenty of locals seem to disagree if this counter-petition is anything to go by. It says: “The Mayor and Bristol City Council have brought forward proposals for St Marks Road, Easton, Bristol, that would greatly benefit both businesses and the community as a whole by opening up St Marks Road for increased footfall, greater revenues and a more liveable neighbourhood less dominated by motorised traffic."

19 August 2020, 12:48
Row rumbles on over decision to stop motor vehicle through-traffic on popular coastal roads in Bournemouth
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Over the weekend, BCP Council unveiled plans to introduce "experimental traffic measures" at Boscombe Overcliff Drive and Southbourne Overcliff Drive to provide more space for cycling and walking. Beginning on Monday 24th August, motor traffic will no longer be able to use the roads as a through-route, which BCP say "will create a safer environment for those travelling by bike and on foot". The

The Bournemouth Echo reports that the scheme was brought forward using cash from the government’s emergency active travel fund; however a local councillor and a body representing hospitality businesses in the area strongly disagree with the plans. Boscombe East & Pokesdown ward member Andy Jones said: “I was inundated by residents over the weekend who are absolutely livid about this scheme. 

“I’ve had people on the phone and numerous emails questioning where was the consultation. Why are we having something thrust upon us?

“The concerns have been raised about where traffic is going to be diverted up some of the residential roads north of the clifftop area and the resulting congestion along roads such as Beechwood Avenue, Wentworth Avenue and onto Southbourne Grove because clearly traffic has got to go somewhere.

“Bearing in mind how busy those roads are already and this is just going to make it worse.

“With most schemes you tend to find people for and against but I have not come across anybody that thinks this is a good idea.”

The BH Area Hospitality Association said in a statement: “BCP Council (with) another crazy ridiculous scheme which also needs scrapping. 

“Tourism and hospitality brings much needed income into this town and these crazy thought-up schemes are causing headaches for a number of hotel business owners across the conurbation who are trying to focus on keeping their business afloat during these times. Are you aware by closing this road you will also put a negative impact on people arriving for your Bournemouth Beach Lodges.”

Boscombe East & Pokesdown ward councillor George Farquhar admitted there had been a "fair amount of opposition" but defended the trial, saying: “I am not opposed to the scheme itself because it is experimental and I think it will quite quickly show what is actually something we might want to invest in.

“We have these experimental orders. It is not just us in the country, it is all local authorities.

“Depending on the evidence that comes out of these experimental traffic control orders, such as the one on the overcliff at Southbourne and Boscombe, we can actually unlock £1.2million.

“I can understand the concerns by residents that it may be that traffic will start occupying local residential roads but I think that this is only a short-term pain because the nature of the scheme is to prevent through traffic and encourage active travel.”

19 August 2020, 12:40
"Cycling infrastructure just doesn't exist in the UK": another example of a cycle lane unfit for purpose

While the idiot in the video from Priory Lane should know better, it's perhaps yet another example of how bad cycling infrastructure can cause conflict, creating the feeling amongst some drivers that cyclists are not using the space allocated to them for no real reason other than to 'hold up the traffic'. It's clear in the clip above that this cycle lane would be pretty much impossible to use efficiently while having to dodge cars, pedestrians and broken sections of path. 

19 August 2020, 12:22
Gritfest postponed to 2021
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The organisers of the popular two-day gravel event have finally come to the decision to postpone this year's edition to 19th-20th June 2021. 

They said in a statement: "While restrictions are starting to be eased in Wales that are allowing us to host smaller events, we do not think it will be possible to host Gritfest in the style that riders will be happy with and to a standard we would be happy with. Difficult areas include the facilities and 2 day festival style of event, which simply would not be replicated. Plus of course the glorious weather that riders have been lucky enough to have enjoyed in previous years!"

Entries for 2020 will be deferred to the 2021 date by default, but Gritfest are also offering refunds to those who email requesting one by 30th September. They also added: "If you are unable to attend in 2021 but do not want a refund and would like to gift your entry, or a percentage of it to us then please also reply to let us know. Whilst we do not expect riders to do this, we will be extremely grateful to anyone who does so and it will help us to continue organising events in years to come.

"As a tiny company relying purely on a small number of events this is an incredibly difficult time for us and it is almost certain that entry fees for the rescheduled event will be significantly higher. Please keep this in mind should you request a refund now, but plan to re-enter nearer the 2021 date. For any rider who does gift their entry we will guarantee a 2021 race entry and also hold the 2020 event pricing."

19 August 2020, 10:56
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Cycling is the new golf...
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But if you still enjoy a bit of the old golf, why not do it while reminding yourself where your priorities lie? Alternatively you could gently troll your golfing friends that haven't yet discovered the joy of two wheels...

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19 August 2020, 10:35
Haulage firm praised for nice wide passes

More of this, please. 

19 August 2020, 10:23
Ineos team announcement in meme form

Plus a suggestion of what the dropped pair could get up to instead.

19 August 2020, 08:50
Clothing brand's 'Ride Bikes F**k B*tches' t-shirt removed from sale
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After reporting that hundreds of people had voiced their displeasure at the offensive t-shirt on our Monday live blog, it appears it is no longer for sale on the Where The Trail Begins e-commerce store. 

An email sent to road.cc said: "He (Where The Trail Begins) got a few hours out of that before a well placed email to his shopping platform provider was opened, read, and the product quickly removed. It seems their terms of service were being violated by the sale of hateful, offensive and sexist merchandise. Rules are rules." 

19 August 2020, 08:18
Priory Lane "not fit for purpose", claim cyclists
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The road has long proved a source of conflict between drivers and cyclists, with a number of incidents happening over the years in which riders have been subjected to abuse by motorists who believe they should be using the cycle path on the adjacent footway (see above). We reported back in 2018 that Wandsworth Borough Council were consulting on proposals to improve the road for cyclists and pedestrians, but to our knowledge that hasn't happened yet.

Many cyclists object to using the lane, as it's narrow with numerous points that could put them into conflict with pedestrians. If you're a driver like the one in the footage below who thinks it's mandatory to use cycle lanes, see our Monday Moaning feature on the subject. 

19 August 2020, 07:54
Police involved after self-appointed 'traffic warden' attempts to direct cyclists to use the cycle lane

In the footage, a man appears to have left his vehicle (thus causing congestion, but that's another story) and is shouting and pointing at cyclists to tell them to use the cycle lane rather than the road. The driver of the black car also appears to be encouraging him. 

Some claim the man was assaulting cyclists, with the person who uploaded the footage claiming that he was punched in the head. Police Superintendent Andy Cox urged those assaulted to come forward so police could intervene.

The section of road on Priory Lane, which is popular with cyclists heading to and from Richmond Park, features a cycle lane that is troublesome to use according to many cyclists, which is the reason many feel it's necessary to (legally) use the road. A source who lives nearby told road.cc: "Unless you live on Priory Lane, the only reason you are using it in a motor vehicle is to rat-run Richmond Park."

19 August 2020, 07:49
"I think you'll find that heavy traffic is due to the number of people driving": B&H buses slammed for blaming Brighton congestion on new cycle lane

The announcement from B&H Buses hasn't gone down very well on social media, with a number of people pointing out that congestion on the road existed long before a new cycle lane was installed on Brighton's seafront. 

Clive Andrews commented: "That’s guesswork and opinion. Stick to facts and information"; while Large Al says: "I think you mean 'due to excessive traffic'. Pillocks."

19 August 2020, 08:12
Police appeal to find cyclist who was hit by a van and walked off

Swindon Police say the male cyclist was struck by a passing van, then walked away pushing his bike. They've asked the cyclist or anyone who knows him to get in touch to "check on his welfare."

19 August 2020, 07:42
Thomas and Froome speak after news of Tour de France omission

Thomas commented on his job to target the Giro d'Italia: "I enjoy the racing there. I’ve always loved Italy, the roads, the fans, the food obviously.

“It’s a race I’ve always enjoyed anyway... a country I love to race in. I’m certainly looking forward to going back.”

And Froome said: "It’s definitely a readjustment for me moving goalposts from the Tour de France to the Vuelta a España.

"...I think given where I’ve come from through the last year, I’ve had an incredible recovery from the big crash I had last year; but I’m not confident I can really fulfil the necessary job that would be needed of me at this year’s Tour de France. I think it’s a lot more realistic targeting the and get stuck into something that’s deliverable.

"It’s great for me now to have that clarity that that will be my big goal for the season. And I really do just wish the team all the very best of luck for the month ahead. The racing;s going to be brutal but I have every faith in Egan and the team around him that they can deliver the result.”

19 August 2020, 07:26
No G and no Froome at the Tour?? Some of the reactions so far
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It's certainly taken us by surprise, and poking around our social media feeds it appears a lot of you aren't best pleased by the decision. To remind you, here are the eight riders the Ineos Grenadiers (we still can't get used to that name) have selected for the Tour de France: 

Andrey Amador 
Egan Bernal
Richard Carapaz 
Jonathan Castroviejo
Michal Kwiatkowski
Luke Rowe
Pavel Sivakov
Dylan van Baarle

Jack has been writing about cycling and multisport for over a decade, arriving at road.cc via 220 Triathlon Magazine in 2017. He worked across all areas of the website including tech, news and video, and also contributed to eBikeTips before being named Editor of road.cc in 2021 (much to his surprise). Jack has been hooked on cycling since his student days, and currently has a Trek 1.2 for winter riding, a beloved Bickerton folding bike for getting around town and an extra beloved custom Ridley Helium SLX for fantasising about going fast in his stable. Jack has never won a bike race, but does have a master's degree in print journalism and two Guinness World Records for pogo sticking (it's a long story). 

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Hirsute replied to eburtthebike | 4 years ago
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I aways find it funny when they say Bradley Wiggins - 'oh, do you have aspirations to be a social worker then?'

 

Are you "Total moron haha" ?

Never under(over?)estimate the depths to which local rag comments can descend to.

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eburtthebike replied to Cargobike | 4 years ago
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Cargobike wrote:

Headline on todays Derbyshire Live website!

https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/burton/cyclists-dubbed-thugs-lycra-chas...

Car drivers really haven't got a clue, have they? Think this bloke must be suffering from the same delusions as the woman in Barnsley.

Lot's more comments, and quite few are not impressed with the driver.

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brooksby | 4 years ago
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/19/berlin-highway-crashes-inv...

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A series of car crashes on a Berlin highway was an extremist attack, German prosecutors have said.

Right - clearly we need to ban all cars.  I mean - using a car as a weapon...

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eburtthebike replied to brooksby | 4 years ago
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brooksby wrote:

Right - clearly we need to ban all cars.  I mean - using a car as a weapon...

There's considerable recent history of cars being used as weapons by terrorists, but for some strange reason, the calls for them to be banned as a result are singularly absent.  But if killing thousands of people a year in normal, legal use doesn't result in banning calls, why should a few attacks?

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FluffyKittenofT... replied to eburtthebike | 4 years ago
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Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between a terrorist and just another motorist.

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eburtthebike replied to FluffyKittenofTindalos | 4 years ago
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FluffyKittenofTindalos wrote:

Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between a terrorist and just another motorist.

Terrorists are the ones actively trying to kill you; the others are just normal, distracted, indifferent, callous drivers who don't care if they kill you.

Ah, I see what you mean.

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Notbuilt2climb | 4 years ago
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The behaviour of other road users and the incredible amount of anger that appears to exist everywhere (even in road.cc comments sections) is really worrying.  So many idiots out there and when I'm on my cycle commute, I find myself shouting at drivers & cyclists that are not driving/riding safely or within the laws. I realise that my shouting could be perceived as anger but I think it's more about despair. Cycling used to be crucial to me to maintain good mental health but it's starting to go the other way now.

Can't we all just get along?  I recognise that the problems & issues need to be highlighted and addressed but perhaps we can balance it out with more good news a little more often please.  I think I may spend less time on road.cc for a while.

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hawkinspeter replied to Notbuilt2climb | 4 years ago
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I'd recommend giving up the shouting. You're not responsible for what other people choose to do, so let them get on with it (unless they're endangering you). The other thing is to get a camera and let the footage and the police deal with any incidents you encounter - just let it go and think "Got them on cam" if you get hassle.

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Sriracha replied to hawkinspeter | 4 years ago
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100%. You're never going to enlighten anyone at the roadside. The reason they nearly killed you is because they already know they are right. You need a steely inner calm, always easier when you have it on video.

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kil0ran replied to Notbuilt2climb | 4 years ago
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To counter this a little, when the cyclist went missing in the New Forest over the weekend there were people out from all "tribes" looking for him. Sadly not the outcome we wanted but there were hikers, horse riders, cyclists of all disciplines ranging over the whole forest. Of course, it was a nice morning for a ride which probably helped - "I'm off to help search for a missing person, I'll be back in six hours"  1

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kil0ran replied to Notbuilt2climb | 4 years ago
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I'm off the roads at the moment due to a road rage incident 6 weeks ago, I've found my solace and cycling fulfillment in the dusty, muddy world of MTB. Recommended if you can find the routes and have the time. Plus as a tinkerer I'm getting to learn a whole new world of bike tech (man, MTB is complex)

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NZ Vegan Rider replied to kil0ran | 4 years ago
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Sorry to read about the rr incident.

I hope you get the courage back to be on the road soon.

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Carior replied to Notbuilt2climb | 4 years ago
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I think that's fair.  I have decided that, whilst I can stress out and berate people that aren't great, its normally not worth the hassle (unless they endanger me) - I find far better for my sanity is to "praise" with thanks, thumbs up and smiles the people that do a good job, hang back and wait for a safe spot to pass wide. I have had people give me the thumbs up back, roll down a window and have a brief pleasant conversation (normally about the weather coz you know, Britain) and it seems to generally make us both feel happier.  I hope my smiles and thumbs up mean they give the same consideration to the next cyclist they pass. Appreciate, this is doing nothing to convert the d**ks but if we normalise good behaviour with normal people then the bad behaviour will become less socially accepted!

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Bungle_52 replied to Notbuilt2climb | 4 years ago
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Good news. I've managed to cycle to the allottment and back (2km) twice without any close passes from motorists. Fist time for a long time.

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eburtthebike replied to Bungle_52 | 4 years ago
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Bungle_52 wrote:

Good news. I've managed to cycle to the allottment and back (2km) twice without any close passes from motorists. Fist time for a long time.

Were you carrying a fork?  And I'm hoping the typo wasn't Freudian.

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hawkinspeter replied to eburtthebike | 4 years ago
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eburtthebike wrote:

Bungle_52 wrote:

Good news. I've managed to cycle to the allottment and back (2km) twice without any close passes from motorists. Fist time for a long time.

Were you carrying a fork?  And I'm hoping the typo wasn't Freudian.

Sorry for the resolution - I was hoping to use 4k

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eburtthebike replied to hawkinspeter | 4 years ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:

eburtthebike wrote:

Bungle_52 wrote:

Good news. I've managed to cycle to the allottment and back (2km) twice without any close passes from motorists. Fist time for a long time.

Were you carrying a fork?  And I'm hoping the typo wasn't Freudian.

Sorry for the resolution - I was hoping to use 4k

Fork off!yes

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eburtthebike | 4 years ago
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Self appointed traffic warden; would that be the boss of Pimlico Plumbers?  Surely someone has some video of this guy to make identification easier, and the reg of his vehicle.

I've just done a quick search for this story, expecting it to feature in lots of msm; nothing.  Just imagine the opposite with a cyclist blocking the road with his bike and directing cars away from the cycle lane; 24/7 coverage.

Do traffic wardens have the power to direct traffic?  I thought it was only a police officer who could do that.

 

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cbrndc replied to eburtthebike | 4 years ago
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eburtthebike wrote:

Do traffic wardens have the power to direct traffic?  I thought it was only a police officer who could do that.

And Highways Agency.

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eburtthebike replied to cbrndc | 4 years ago
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cbrndc wrote:

Do traffic wardens have the power to direct traffic?  I thought it was only a police officer who could do that.

And Highways Agency.

Thanks for that info.  He isn't either of those, so he is breaking the law.

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brooksby replied to eburtthebike | 4 years ago
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I keep looking at that video, and at the photo embedded in the tweet, and it looks to me that the cycle lane he's "directing" people onto is one direction - but not in the direction he's telling people to ride... (?)

There looks to be a big arrow painted on the cycle lane pointing in the opposite direction to where he's telling people to go.

Am I missing something...?

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eburtthebike replied to brooksby | 4 years ago
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brooksby wrote:

I keep looking at that video, and at the photo embedded in the tweet, and it looks to me that the cycle lane he's "directing" people onto is one direction - but not in the direction he's telling people to ride... (?)

There looks to be a big arrow painted on the cycle lane pointing in the opposite direction to where he's telling people to go.

Am I missing something...?

So if there was a collision with two bicycles in opposite directions, I wonder if he'd fess up and admit liability?

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brooksby replied to eburtthebike | 4 years ago
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I'll give you two guesses.

(But you'll only need one)

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OnYerBike replied to brooksby | 4 years ago
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brooksby wrote:

I keep looking at that video, and at the photo embedded in the tweet, and it looks to me that the cycle lane he's "directing" people onto is one direction - but not in the direction he's telling people to ride... (?)

There looks to be a big arrow painted on the cycle lane pointing in the opposite direction to where he's telling people to go.

Am I missing something...?

I believe it is (in theory) a two-way cycle lane. If you look at some of the other pictures there are clues - for example at the junction with Bank Lane, and there are also cycle symbols both ways up.

I can understand your confusion however - the obvious explanation is that the cycle lane is not wide enough to be a two-way cycle lane and standard paint marks won't fit if they tried to squeeze them into half the width. So they just stick the paint in the middle and then act suprised when cyclists don't use it.

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nniff replied to OnYerBike | 4 years ago
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It's two-lane cycle path, useless and dangerous except for a family potter.  The road, as said previously, has a 20mph limit and, heading away from the park, it's slightly downhill and it's easy to do 20mph on a bike.  It doesn't stop people trying to pass you in their mad race to the traffic lights at the end, where there is a large ASL that's usually full of bikes in the morning.

The most surreal aspect of the whole thing is the way in which the 'Clown in Chief' stands in the cycle lane without recognising that it might be the most stupid place of all to stand, in context.  Mind you, reasoning is clearly not a strong suit for him.

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to eburtthebike | 4 years ago
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The text mentioned he got into the white car (Van?). What was the black car doing? Looks like they were filming it and they were encouraging him. The stupidness is it looks like the cyclists just rejoined the road just past them anyway and they ended up just blocking other cars. 

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