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Even the frog faced Farage admits brexthick is a disaster. Not his fault of course, but it's still a disaster. 

simple answer is don't use Parcel Force/Roayal Mail, they charge an exorbitant handling fee, for orders that will attract any duty, I ask the seller to use DHL etc, they just charge the duties.

andystow wrote:

Interesting. Wiltshire police targeting illegal e-bikes in Swindon.

Quote from that article "Electric bicycles are only legal if they comply with the law": that's true for everything, isn't it?

Steve K wrote:

Quote from that article "Electric bicycles are only legal if they comply with the law": that's true for everything, isn't it?

Isn't it the other way round? Everything is legal unless there's a law proscribing it

I thought that was a spoof. But it's actually for real. 

brooksby wrote:

Quote:

illusive Grand Tour win 

I don't think that means what you think it means, Dan... 

What's wrong with it? Every time Pinot gets to the finish line, the victory he was chasing isn't actually there.😉

Kemi Badenoch would no doubt say that the extra costs are not the effect of Brexit. 

The government would blame Covid and the war in Ukraine - its the stock answer to everything that goes wrong.

Owd Big 'Ead wrote:

No wonder so many people voted for the sunny uplands of a Brexit deal when they can't even fathom out for themselves that ordering from within the EU is now going to cost them more than it did in the past!

Like: was it last summer? When the tabloids were all up in arms because people travelling to the European mainland were being treated as if they were 'foreigners', and being asked to show their passports and having passports rejected for not having enough time left on them and stuff...

"It is not enough to succeed - others must fail. " - Iris Murdoch, or Gore Vidal, or Somerset Maugham, or possibly Marcus Whatsischops.

chrisonatrike wrote:

"It is not enough to succeed - others must fail. " - Iris Murdoch, or Gore Vidal, or Somerset Maugham, or possibly Marcus Whatsischops.

Google seems to go with Somerset Maughan.

chrisonatrike wrote:

"It is not enough to succeed - others must fail. " - Iris Murdoch, or Gore Vidal, or Somerset Maugham, or possibly Marcus Whatsischops.

Earliest attribution is to Ghengis Khan. Marcus Whassname would never have said anything so negative!

Best News I have heard today. Thank you

Have they released new footage?  I was reading about it earlier and the video I saw showed more interview footage - that I hadn't seen before - with the interrogating officer explaining to Ms Grey that their stills clearly show her hand on Mrs Ward's sleeve and could she explain that to them.

Well what do you know? Causing someone to fall into the path of moving traffic (regardless of what heinous crime you think they have commited)* with all the foreseable consequences of such an act has been confirmed to be illegal.

The only mitigation for Auriol Grey is that she is as much a victim of the MSM anti cyclist hate campaign as her victim Mrs Ward.

*For the record I'd happily push Putin into live traffic, take the consequences, and only regret that it wasn't into a container full of flesh eating worms.

Rendel Harris wrote:

Auriol Grey appeal rejected (even though Martin and Nigel told us it was guaranteed to be overturned on appeal because of the biased judge!): https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-65645364

And if anyone was in any doubt, just listen to the video of the interview. Shocking. 

stomec wrote:

Rendel Harris wrote:

Auriol Grey appeal rejected (even though Martin and Nigel told us it was guaranteed to be overturned on appeal because of the biased judge!): https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-65645364

And if anyone was in any doubt, just listen to the video of the interview. Shocking. 

Indeed. I think the interviewer was unnecessarily kind to someone who had callously took another human being's life. Personally I would have made her watch the video over and over again, including the part where her victim was hit by the car, until she admitted, word for word, what she said and why.

Pyro Tim wrote:

It amazes me that people think we can take part in international trade, and not have to follow rules and pay charges. It's your responsibility to check these out. Be it from EU or elsewhere. Since Brexit, people assume things haven't changed and  ship bikes to events without organising customs.£12 is nothing for the process companies have to go through to organise, and pay out on your behalf.

I am a freight forwarder and customs broker. To enable the likes of Parcelforce / DHL etc to do the entry, they need to post huge sums (millions) into an account that is effectively dead money to them. Customer has to pay to use this service, as the money gets no interest, and cannot be used for business/cash flow use. You are not paying based on the value of the goods, but the process. They have to manually enter the entry, and several items with different tariff codes takes time. We charge £60 an entry, which inclues 3 tariff numbers, and £3.50 per additional tariff number. Granted, I don't work with individuals for small stuff, and don't do bulk entries like this specific senario, which are a little less time consuming. Don't blame the companies, blame Brexit, and those that promoted it and voted for it.

It amazes me that you think that every customer should have to learn the details of international trade when they're just looking to buy stuff from an online shop. The responsibility should lie with the seller to figure out their typical charges and inform the customer or at least warn them if the charges are too complicated for the shop to work out (e.g. if they haven't shipped to that location previously).

The law is the law, and ignorance is no excuse. Your responsibility, not someone in another country. If you want to import, you have to know. If you don't / can't be arsed, buy it from UK from someone who has checked and complied. The rules are complicated enough, I know UK customs, and a little of EU, based on what it was here before Brexit, but nothing of US or anywhere else. It is not my responsibilty to know foreign rules, just as it isn't a bike shop in Germany to know our rules.

Pyro Tim wrote:

The law is the law, and ignorance is no excuse. Your responsibility, not someone in another country. If you want to import, you have to know. If you don't / can't be arsed, buy it from UK from someone who has checked and complied. The rules are complicated enough, I know UK customs, and a little of EU, based on what it was here before Brexit, but nothing of US or anywhere else. It is not my responsibilty to know foreign rules, just as it isn't a bike shop in Germany to know our rules.

If a bike shop in Germany is selling to UK customers, then I'd expect them to know what they're doing. For example, Mantel (https://www.mantel.com/uk) declare that they will only ship orders up to the value of £135 due to Brexit shenanigans.

Yes, ultimately it's up to the consumer, but it's not practical to expect every customer to know the specific details of an industry when they're just looking to buy some bike parts. The seller, however is the natural single point that will have to know some details of shipping internationally, so it follows that they should help their customers.

It is not the sellers responsibility, but the importers. Doesn't matter what you think, this is the reality. The seller wants to make money, they sell. They might arrange shipping for you, but ultimately once it's left their warehouse, that's the end of their responsibility. Probably sold on DAP terms, which means they pay for delivery up to your door, excluding customs clearance. This means the importer needs to pay taxes and charges to clear the goods.

Mantel do that as you don't pay VAT or duty on low value goods, and can be customs cleared without declaring tariff numbers. This is a simple job for couriers to enter. It is something they've chosen to do so they don't have people bitching, but no requirement to do so, and limits what they can sell. Others will have made a commercial decision to do something different.