LTN road blocks could be replaced with ANPR cameras

I think I prefer the ANPR solution.

The problem with dumping planters into roads is that we're paying for building public infrastructure (i.e. roads) and then sabotaging that infrastructure (though I agree with the reasons). With ANPRs we can keep the roads as they are, reap in a bit of money from the motorists who don't read the signs or don't learn and eventually they should get the message that it's cheaper to not rat-run.

However, the problem with most fines is that they discriminate against poor people whilst allowing the wealthy to just do what they want. Maybe using the points system would prevent abuse by the wealthy?

Jesus, way to complicate things. Taxi's and locals already had access to these areas.

Just sink some fecking bollards into the ground and have done with it.....

Everything useful to be said for the worth of physical barriers over CCTV (at least while there's still too much motor traffic) has been said already. So: 

Councillor Muhammad Ali, cabinet member for sustainable Croydon said

Leads naturally to this:

When Muhammad Ali—then Cassius Marcellus Clay—was twelve years old, a thief stole his new red Schwinn bicycle outside of the annual Louisville Home Show. Clay, in tears, found a policeman to report the crime to and stated that he wanted to “whup” the thief who stole his bike.

Serendipitously, the policeman was Sergeant Joe Martin, who trained boxers. He encouraged Clay to learn how to fight before looking for retaliation. Martin’s gym was in the basement of the same building they were standing in. Clay showed up the next day to start training and he spent the next six years under Martin.

Had young Cassius not been the victim of a stolen bicycle AND had he not taken the advice of the police officer, his life would certainly have taken a different path. Cassius Clay’s stolen bike became a catalyst for his boxing career and illustrates by example how Cassius found his purpose in life at an early age.

This experience involving his stolen bike, became the first pivotal moment in Muhammad’s life; it became his “Red Bike” Moment.

https://alicenter.org/red-bike-moment

If the councils are happy to invest in infrastructure like cameras, why not spend the money on a droppable bollard like they use in bus gates. That way the LTNs could be imposed at specific times and the bollards dropped for emergency vehicles if required. This would surely counter a lot of the opposition from drivers.

ANPR does NOT make roads safe for other users. Closure  of rat runs, routes to schools etc is the only sensible way to encourage pedestrian and cycles use rather than cars. The kids who started cycling on roads within the ltn 's closest to me won't carry on cycling once the barriers to access are replaced by camera's. 

Here's an average speed check proposal, which according to drivists would be a regular money spinner for the police - yet they aren't supporting it in an area with a clear and present danger. £40k just for a feasibility study tells you something about why not. 

https://www.advertiserandtimes.co.uk/speed-cameras-b3078

So instead of using the "it just diverts motor traffic and creates worse air quality" argument, the motorists will all start using the "it's just a money making exercise!" argument...

Most motorists will obey the rules. The drunk, the criminal, the uninsured, the disqualified and the stupid (or combination thereof) won't. It won't be much consolation when someone ploughs into me at 40mph in a 20mph zone that they were caught on a camera at the end of the street. We need physical barriers.

Wow! If ANPR cameras in Ealing have led to almost 6000 fines in just over a month, that kind of shows they're not really creating the low-traffic neighbourhoods they were deployed to create! I'd stick with planters! They're prettier for a start!

How is allowing residents permits to drive through "barriers" going to nudge them out of using their car for local journeys?

we've created ourselves a monster here, haven't we, in terms of this targeted vandalism.  Impounding any motor vehicles kept by the offenders wouldn't come amiss. 

curious isn't it, housing areas have been designed around the cul de sac idea since the 1960s - the LTN iidea just updates older areas to the modern standard. 
 

This may seem like an quick solution as it removes the visual impact of denying drivers the road. The reality is that headlines of a 'war on motorists' will appear in certain newspapers and be viewed as a source of money making on hard working people ? Signage will become a ground for challenges on it being sufficent or lawful. It does not make feel people feel safe or encourage people to walk or cycle around the area or allow children to play outside and use the street. In time the cameras will be turned off or no money will be present to upgrade or replace. Each LTN case is different and needs to be properly designed but this seems to pander again to a minority of motorists as it sounds easier ?