Near Miss of the Day 838: "Tell me again about hi-vis and lights!" — Cyclist narrowly avoids collision at mini roundabout

They should gert corporal punishment for that. 

Bungle_52 wrote:

Do we know which force it is?

Anne lives and works in Belfast so it's the PSNI; unfortunately judging by her previous experience getting action from them is a lottery to say the least.

If the police don't take action on that one we really are in trouble

They won't and we are

AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

I see all the nutjobs on Twitter are stating it is the cyclists fault for existing

FTFY

Sad but so very true

I struggle with finding any possible logic in the statement that you can't be seen with a flashing light. Can't be looking for very long if the argument is they looked in the "off" segment and if the argument is they are blind d by the flash then they clearly saw something was there. My money is on a failure to make sufficient observations, or more likely failure to look at all!

LeadenSkies wrote:

or more likely failure to look at all!

Bingo.

If flashing lights were a problem then all cars would be like Audis and not have indicators fitted.

but remember that all those clever optical illusion/magic eye tricks are based on the fact what you see is translated by your brain into a pattern that it recognises and it tends to ignore things it doesnt, whilst treating driving as an autopilot mode, sounds like a lethal combo and often is.

and if the pattern is 4 wheels steady lights, stop, else carry on its clear, then we will always fall in the bucket the brain is ignoring and hence the "I didnt see you" or "flashing lights cant be seen" whilst its in autopilot mode. It requires the driver to make a concious observation of no I need to double check its clear, not assume its clear because my brain is being clever only showing me half the information at roundabouts or junctions like that.

as I said before I think the drivers decision to make that turn happens before cyclinggranny is even within sight, theyre driving a quick glance cant see a vehicle, carry on mode

You may be right and it's frightening that some drivers think a quick glance, some way before the junction is enough of a look on which to base a decision to pull out. I was taught, and still practice, at least two looks in each direction, physically moving my head between each so as to eliminate A Post blind spots, using a proper scan of whole field of vision, properly focussing on three or four different points across that field to eliminate the tendency for your brain to fill in the image with what it thinks should be in the bits the eye doesn't register if you simply move in one continuous sweep. It takes a second or so to look properly but it is time well spent.

You hit the nail squarely on the head there. I for one was taught how to look (as part of Army driver training) 1st look is for cars etc, 2nd look is for motos and 3rd look is for bicycles. All three looks with head moving to eliminate A pillar blind spot.
The missus gives me constant grief about it.

Spangly Shiny wrote:

You hit the nail squarely on the head there. I for one was taught how to look (as part of Army driver training) 1st look is for cars etc, 2nd look is for motos and 3rd look is for bicycles. All three looks with head moving to eliminate A pillar blind spot.
The missus gives me constant grief about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYJYA0P5ls8

Or, how about the alternative version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c2ZF_Ksv0s

I'd kind agree that you are invisible with ..
- flashing light
- steady light
- wheel reflectors
- reflective rims (good old Marathon Plus)
- Proviz 360 jacket
- Proviz gloves

Totally invisible...
https://youtu.be/_AIssivzUvA

Nigel has

*pedantry* One incarnation of the most obvious current manifestation of "Nigel" has... */pedantry*

That's kind of a shame that we don't have a figure of fun...no actually whoopee!!!!!

Don't think so, he's just busy self-righteously revelling in a cyclist getting killed elsewhere. He'll get to this when he's got time.

what right turn ?  its a 3 way exit/entry mini roundbout.

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Id swear also that another car ahead of them thinks about stopping at the traffic lights and then decides nah sod it.

I suspect they did jump it, but they could argue they had already crossed the line on Orange/Green and the traffic queue stopped them from continuing. 

As for your first comment, just bad driving, as evidenced with her "getaway" at the end. 

The cynic in me says they will take action but for the rlj and not for nearly killing someone 😐

The extra cynic will be that they won't prosecute the RLJ as the driver was getting away from the "deranged cyclist" threatening them, especially as there is no sound.