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La Vuelta...

A touch ahead of myself, I know, but I CAN'T WAIT for this year's Vuelta! I know that TdF & GdI were both up a couple of weeks prior to the big start; any idea when this one will be up and running?

I need to do my obsessive stage-by-stage plan (that will be binned by stage 5), so want to know rider values  26

Also I suppose there's a 'Pick Three Spaniards' game to be run  35

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Joelsim replied to Ghedebrav | 10 years ago
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Ghedebrav wrote:

Yeah. Got a reasonable idea for my purist, but standard is tough indeed. Short TTT = tiny time gaps = random scores. I think there are five or six teams who should be pushing for the win, then another four or five below them, then the rest (except one totally unfancied team will bizarrely get fourth place).

The idea then would be to pick riders from the fancied teams who are likely to do well on the following stages. Trouble is, I don't have a clue about stages 3, 4 & 5, and even stage 2 which looks like a straightforward sprint could get very windy...

So basically I'm stuck. I'd probably do just as well by picking riders at random that add up to 160.

My thoughts entirely. None of the better TT teams have anyone decent for stages 2 onwards.

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Joelsim | 10 years ago
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And it's going to be very tricky to pick the team for stage 1.

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enrique | 10 years ago
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Yay! It's up!  1

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Gkam84 | 10 years ago
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Everyone got an email, it will be open tomorrow. Dave will be the main man with me on backup and NO, he won't put up the formula we use nor any other details, because we have a pretty unique game and not going to make it all public so it can be copied

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Joelsim | 10 years ago
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I think it will be needed to make up for the million transfers we are going to have to make over the first few stages. It's going to be a very tricky one.

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Gkam84 | 10 years ago
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I've set it at 160, game suggests 138....so there you go

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enrique replied to Gkam84 | 10 years ago
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I've set it at 160, game suggests 138....so there you go

That sounds pretty good... Let's just hope there aren't 4 GC guys in form that are a 'must have' at 40.0 credits each...  39 Ask Dave to put up the formula you guys use... It'd be fun to see what it's based on and how it establishes a value for the budget based on the field... It seems a little off and I'd be happy to look at it and make sure it always yields something above 150..  13 You think it'll be open today?... In a few hours?... Will you be running the scoring?...  39

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backflipbedlem replied to enrique | 10 years ago
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enrique wrote:
Gkam84 wrote:

I've set it at 160, game suggests 138....so there you go

That sounds pretty good... Let's just hope there aren't 4 GC guys in form that are a 'must have' at 40.0 credits each...  39 Ask Dave to put up the formula you guys use... It'd be fun to see what it's based on and how it establishes a value for the budget based on the field... It seems a little off and I'd be happy to look at it and make sure it always yields something above 150..  13 You think it'll be open today?... In a few hours?... Will you be running the scoring?...  39

Lol, i love your use of the thinking man Enrique! Adds so much weight to what you are saying, I think  39

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enrique replied to backflipbedlem | 10 years ago
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Gkam84 wrote:

...so it can be copied

I respect that... if you email it to me I will not share it with anyone...

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backflipbedlem wrote:

... Adds so much weight to what you are saying, I think  39

I shall clarify its use... Thinking creates doubt... Some say thinking is a product (!) of doubt, say an attempt by our brains to prevent 'surprises' or to correctly (!) predict the future, as in, say, oh, maybe, a Fantasy Cycling Game... which I suck at but I'm enthralled by....  39 So... in my particular case, feel free to assume that when you see a  39 it is not (!) a thinking man, but a 'doubting' man, and since I doubt most everything I think...  39 You will therefore see many  39 's... Which reflect my doubt rather than the intention of adding credibility to whatever I may be writing at that particular moment... It is, in a sense, an invitation to ponder with me what I am saying and help me sort out whether I'm right or wrong... It shouldn't be seen as an attempt to add credibility to what I'm saying, although it might...  39

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Joelsim replied to enrique | 10 years ago
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enrique wrote:
Gkam84 wrote:

...so it can be copied

I respect that... if you email it to me I will not share it with anyone...

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backflipbedlem wrote:

... Adds so much weight to what you are saying, I think  39

I shall clarify its use... Thinking creates doubt... Some say thinking is a product (!) of doubt, say an attempt by our brains to prevent 'surprises' or to correctly (!) predict the future, as in, say, oh, maybe, a Fantasy Cycling Game... which I suck at but I'm enthralled by....  39 So... in my particular case, feel free to assume that when you see a  39 it is not (!) a thinking man, but a 'doubting' man, and since I doubt most everything I think...  39 You will therefore see many  39 's... Which reflect my doubt rather than the intention of adding credibility to whatever I may e writing at that particular moment... It is, in a sense, an invitation to ponder with me what I am saying and help me sort out whether I'm right or wrong... It shouldn't be seen as an attempt to add credibility to what I'm saying, although it might...  39

Keeping the posts shorter would also ensure more people read them!!!

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enrique replied to Joelsim | 10 years ago
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Joelsim wrote:

Keeping the posts shorter would also ensure more people read them!!!  8

Stop stalling and send me my kids...

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enrique | 10 years ago
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roadcc_admin wrote:

Vuelta a Espana: ADDED Carlos Alberto Betancur to AG2R La Mondiale roster

 41 Yay! Riders are going up for the Vuelta...  4 Thank you!  4 Now I can only hope for decent budget over 150!  45

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enrique | 10 years ago
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Aw, man, no Ben Swift for Sky!  22 Anyways, when does this open?...  39

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Joelsim replied to enrique | 10 years ago
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enrique wrote:

Aw, man, no Ben Swift for Sky!  22 Anyways, when does this open?...  39

Saturday morning

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enrique replied to Joelsim | 10 years ago
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enrique wrote:

... when does this open?...  39

Joelsim wrote:

Saturday morning

No, please!  20 Anyways, where's my kids?  39 Are they blonde and blue eyed?...  45 Are they off training wheels on their bikes yet?...  39

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Joelsim replied to enrique | 10 years ago
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enrique wrote:
enrique wrote:

... when does this open?...  39

Joelsim wrote:

Saturday morning

No, please!  20 Anyways, where's my kids?  39 Are they blonde and blue eyed?...  45 Are they off training wheels on their bikes yet?...  39

Dark haired. Little one has just turned 7 and rode 20 miles with me last week in one sitting.

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enrique replied to Joelsim | 10 years ago
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Dark haired. Little one has just turned 7 and rode 20 miles with me last week in one sitting.

Impressive. Bless them. I feel proud of them. Can't wait to see them. Say hello from 'Uncle Orli'...

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Him Up North | 10 years ago
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... v Arredondo v Zubeldia v Aru...

Crikey.

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Ghedebrav | 10 years ago
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Dunno what's happened to Betancur. Really like him but he seems to have gone massively (and I do mean massively) off the rails. Rumour is he's had a lot of personal/family stuff to deal with back in Colombia.

Also come across the intriguing rumour that he may sign for Team Colombia and lead a genuine GC challenge in a grand tour next year... Silly season and all that, but I like the idea.

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Joelsim | 10 years ago
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Contador is riding!! Rubs hands at the prospect of Quintana v Froome v Contador v Purito

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Ghedebrav replied to Joelsim | 10 years ago
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Joelsim wrote:

Contador is riding!! Rubs hands at the prospect of Quintana v Froome v Contador v Purito

v Horner  4

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ray silvester replied to Ghedebrav | 10 years ago
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Ghedebrav wrote:
Joelsim wrote:

Contador is riding!! Rubs hands at the prospect of Quintana v Froome v Contador v Purito

v Horner  4

v Betancur v Kelderman v Pinot v Evans v Talansky v Hesjedal v Uran v Valverde v VanDenBroeck

plus Cav,Boonen,Panzerwagon,Bouhanni,Sagan,Gilbert,Sammy,Matthews,Degenkolb,Spartacus,Lulu,Choo-Choo

This really has the makings of the best race of the year

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enrique replied to ray silvester | 10 years ago
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Joelsim wrote:

Contador is riding!...

Thought you were kidding  39 ...http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contador-announces-he-will-ride-the-vuel...

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Joelsim wrote:

... Quintana v Froome v Contador v Purito

Ghedebrav wrote:

v Horner  4

ray silvester wrote:

v Betancur v Kelderman v Pinot v Evans v Talansky v Hesjedal v Uran v Valverde v VanDenBroeck...This really has the makings of the best race of the year

I hope we get a budget of 180 like at the Giro!  1

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Twybaydos replied to ray silvester | 10 years ago
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ray silvester wrote:

v Betancur

Fat n slow finished second to last on the queen stage of the Vuelta a Burgos today, I wouldn't expect much from him in the Vuelta

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jollygoodvelo | 10 years ago
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What about 'pick three Basques'?

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ray silvester replied to jollygoodvelo | 10 years ago
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Gizmo_ wrote:

What about 'pick three Basques'?

The red aand black lace,the pink satin and the white silk please  38

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livestrongnick | 10 years ago
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Anyway we got USA pro challenge 1st  3

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Gkam84 | 10 years ago
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No-one has bothered with the 3 riders this year that I have seen. Because it was run by a couple of forum members who are no longer around the forum very much. Like DrH. There are to many "numpties" around and a few of us don't come on the forum like we once did.

I'd expect it to me open after Eneco finishes on the 17th

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enrique replied to Gkam84 | 10 years ago
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...a few of us don't come on the forum like we once did...

I'm really surprised... I haven't seen dr around lately, and I do miss him, but, you're actually coming less often than you used to?...  39 Wow... It seems to me every time I glance at the 'Latest Comments' box I see your signature avatar... And your posting numbers after your user ID, I believe, may be the highest on the site, unless Dave or dr have a higher number of posts...  39 Are you sure you're coming by less often?...  39

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enrique replied to Gkam84 | 10 years ago
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No-one has bothered with the 3 riders this year...

Well, I wouldn't say that  39 ... Ghedebrav ran both the Pick Three Italians and Pick Three Frenchmen Competitions...  39

http://road.cc/content/forum/117839-giro-ditalia-2014-pick-three-italians

http://road.cc/content/forum/121985-choisissez-trois-fran%C3%A7ais-2014-...

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