Opinions needed please! Pinarello F8 or F10?

If you have the means, F10 with mechanical SR and Boras. Wouldn't go near a race on it though!

Personally I would go for the F10 because getting the F8 when for a few hundred more there is the F10 would annoy me, but with mechanical Super Record, because I like the feel of the Campag shift.

And it will be cheaper to replace when you bend the mech in a crash.

But yes, if I were learning to race, I would buy something like Bowman Palace as I would cry, alot, if I broke a Dogma. 

Why not try racing on the Wilier, then 'reward' yourself with the Dogma when you achieve a goal, for example, make Cat 1?

Good luck to you if you crash and write all that gear off.

If by "competing" you mean road/crit racing then just but a 2nd had Caad 10 as it will give 99% of the performance and will take the inevitable dents. Failing that, there is nothing technically "worth it" about high end kit except the smile on your face when you ride it (or admire it at the cafe). If you can afford it for that, go for it!

Don't fall for the hype on kit. It's not like there's only one bike that wins in the pro peleton.

Nobody ever won a race due to their groupset and don't race what you can't replace. If you're thinking of road racing you might want to start with a slightly cheaper bike for the first season. If it survives then you can use it as a winter bike in later years.

Don't fall for the hype on kit. It's not like there's only one bike that wins in the pro peleton.

Nobody ever won a race due to their groupset and don't race what you can't replace. If you're thinking of road racing you might want to start with a slightly cheaper bike for the first season. If it survives then you can use it as a winter bike in later years.

Don't fall for the hype on kit. It's not like there's only one bike that wins in the pro peleton.

Nobody ever won a race due to their groupset and don't race what you can't replace. If you're thinking of road racing you might want to start with a slightly cheaper bike for the first season. If it survives then you can use it as a winter bike in later years.

What a lovely bike the Wilier is.

You will not notice a difference from one high end bike to another.  Its all down to the fit and your body shape.  They are all a muchness bikes and its all a self indulgent action to try and justify one expensive bike or another.  

Buy what you like, it wont alter your results if you get the F8 or F10 with what ever gearing

What do you ride now ? What do you want this bike for ?

What do you ride now ? What do you want this bike for ?

It’s all diminishing returns but if you can afford it without bankrupting yourself then go for it. You’ll always look at the upgraded model and regret not buying. 

Alternatively buy the better frame and upgrade over time.