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Paris Nice start planning now

So it is two weeks away, but you can do some preliminary research seeing no Omloop Het Volk/Nieuwsblad & Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne (campaigning for them to included in 2013 season).

Offical website with parcours: http://www.letour.fr/2012/PNC/COURSE/us/le_parcours.html

Partial starting list:http://www.cyclingfever.com/editie.html?detp=view&_ap=startlijst&editie_...

Stage 1 9km ITT (prologue) includes cat 3 1.1km @ 6.6 climb after 500m

Stage 2 flat sprinters stage.

Stage 3 Finishes on a Cat 3 climb 5.2km @ 2.9%

Stage 4 lumpy day 2 Cat 2 & 3 Cat 3 last 500m @ 8% 2 km before line, last km is at 4%

Stage 5 even lumpier 3 cat 1, cat 2 & 2 * cat 3, finish is cat 1 3km @ 10%

Stage 6 less lumpy cat 2, 5 * cat 3, last 20km before finish

Stage 7 lumpy cat 1, 2 * cat 2, cat 3, 20km downhill after cat 1, the 20km flat

Stage 8 ITT Col d'Èze 9.6km @ 4.7%

Start with solid ITT riders, then roulers and escape artists and finish with good ITTs

Likely starters

AG2R LA MONDIALE

PERAUD Jean Christophe France
ROCHE Nicholas Ireland

ASTANA PRO TEAM

BRAJKOVIC Janez Slovenia
SEELDRAYERS Kevin Belgium

BMC RACING TEAM

HUSHOVD Thor Norway
MOINARD Amaël France
PHINNEY Taylor United States
VAN GARDEREN Tejay United States

COFIDIS LE CREDIT EN LIGNE

DI GREGORIO Rémy France
DUMOULIN Samuel France
MONCOUTIE David France
TAARAMAE Rein Estonia

EQUIPE CYCLISTE FDJ-BIGMAT

FEDRIGO Pierrick France
JEANNESSON Arnold France
ROY Jérémy France

EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI

ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor Spain
ASTARLOZA CHAURREAU Mikel Spain
SICARD Romain France

GARMIN - BARRACUDA

FERNANDEZ DE LARREA Koldo Spain
HAUSSLER Heinrich Australia
LE MEVEL Christophe France
MILLAR David United Kingdom
RASMUSSEN Alex Denmark

GREENEDGE CYCLING TEAM

DAVIS Allan Australia
GERRANS Simon Australia

KATUSHA TEAM

GALIMZYANOV Denis Russia
MENCHOV Denis Russia

LAMPRE - ISD

BOLE Grega Slovenia
CUNEGO Damiano Italy
ULISSI Diego Italy

LIQUIGAS - CANNONDALE

BASSO Ivan Italy
SZMYD Sylvester Poland
VIVIANI Elia Italy

LOTTO - BELISOL TEAM

BAK Lars Ytting Denmark
HENDERSON Gregory New Zealand

MOVISTAR TEAM

ARROYO DURAN David Spain
CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan Spain
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin Spain
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro Spain

OMEGA PHARMA - QUICKSTEP CYCLING TEAM

BOONEN Tom Belgium
CHAVANEL Sylvain France
LEIPHEIMER Levi United States
MARTIN Tony Germany
PROJECT 1T4I

DEGENKOLB John Germany
KITTEL Marcel Germany

RABOBANK CYCLING TEAM

MOLLEMA Bauke Netherlands
RENSHAW Mark Australia
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon Spain

RADIOSHACK - NISSAN

DIDIER Laurent Luxembourg
HORNER Christopher United States
IRIZAR ARANBURU Markel Spain
KLÖDEN Andreas Germany
MONFORT Maxime Belgium
SCHLECK Andy Luxembourg
SCHLECK Frank Luxembourg

SAUR - SOJASUN

COPPEL Jerome France
FEILLU Brice France
GALLAND Jérémie France
HIVERT Jonathan France

SKY PROCYCLING

FROOME Christopher United Kingdom
PORTE Richie Australia
THOMAS Geraint United Kingdom
WIGGINS Bradley United Kingdom

TEAM EUROPCAR

GAUDIN Damien France
ROLLAND Pierre France
VOECKLER Thomas France

TEAM SAXO BANK

AAEN JORGENSEN Jonas Denmark
KROON Karsten Netherlands
MORKOV Michael Denmark
NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel Spain
NUYENS Nick Belgium
TOSATTO Matteo Italy

VACANSOLEIL - DCM PRO CYCLING TEAM

DE GENDT Thomas Belgium
FEILLU Romain France
LEUKEMANS Björn Belgium
LIGTHART Pim Netherlands
MORTENSEN Martin Denmark

If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.

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Stumps | 12 years ago
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Unless one of my team pulls out its now set in stone with my 2 transfers for the next day also sorted.

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Stumps | 12 years ago
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I was being a bit cheeky with my team and tried to throw in a low baller with my descriptions - Wiggins is British but was born in Ghent, Belgium so dont know if he holds dual nationality  19

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Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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Still no guesses on my

1 Rider from a place near a gate where their twin nuns eat on "Anchor"  19

Work back from the clues  3

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Stumps replied to Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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Gkam84 wrote:

Still no guesses on my

1 Rider from a place near a gate where their twin nuns eat on "Anchor"  19

Work back from the clues  3

Bugger me, i have gone through every world flag and still cant find them. I give up unless it's a state flag.  33

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JAndrewHill replied to Stumps | 12 years ago
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Greg Henderson?

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Gkam84 replied to Stumps | 12 years ago
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stumps wrote:

Bugger me, i have gone through every world flag and still cant find them. I give up unless it's a state flag.  33

Its nowt to down with a flag  3

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Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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Luke Rowe is more your endurance guy, so he'll be pulling the sky guys along to get them into the finish in a good position

If you want a sky sprinter then Hunt or Nordhaug would be your best bets, but most sprinters will have stayed away from this race

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JAndrewHill | 12 years ago
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So
2 from down under
2 from America
1 from former eastern bloc
1 brit
1 german
2 from the med (i.e Egypt, Lebanon, Turkey, Greece, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal might be on the med,Tunisia Algeria or Libya)

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Mikeh789 | 12 years ago
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Starting with;

2 Belgians
1 German (team mate of 1 of the above Belgians!)
1 Brit
1 Aussie (team mate of above Brit)
1 Russian
2 French (1 of whom was highly rated by Tommy Voeckler in a recent interview)
& 1 Lithuanian

Not finalised yet tho..  39

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JAndrewHill | 12 years ago
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I'm also trying to work out which sky rider will finish highest on stage 2 ... but no obvious sprinter stands out. Can Luke Rowe sprint? Or will he go for a long one?  39  39  39

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drheaton | 12 years ago
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Hmmm, might work but there's no points listed for the next stage yet so not sure how it'd stack up.

The major down side is that if you pick two of Martin's team mates and he doesn't win that is then two wasted picks. You also don't get any ongoing GC points for those two DSs after that stage.

Picking Martin and using a throwaway cheap DS pick on his teammate might work better. That being said its all about the gamble and if you get it right it could pay off.

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JAndrewHill replied to drheaton | 12 years ago
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So i can pick an OPQ DS who can sprint, ready for stage 2, and an OPQ DS who can time trial a bit...this should cver me a bit.

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JAndrewHill | 12 years ago
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How is this for a tactic. If you think Tony Martin is going to win the ITT, don't pick him. Instead pick 2 cheap DS from his team OPQ, and pick the stars who you think will come 2nd and third.
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Good tactics ???

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Gkam84 replied to JAndrewHill | 12 years ago
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JAndrewHill wrote:

How is this for a tactic. If you think Tony Martin is going to win the ITT, don't pick him. Instead pick 2 cheap DS from his team OPQ, and pick the stars who you think will come 2nd and third.
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Good tactics ???

It works if you think you can do that, BUT why not have Martin, plus a DS from his team AND the 2nd and 3rd guys??  3

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JAndrewHill replied to Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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Gkam84 wrote:
JAndrewHill wrote:

How is this for a tactic. If you think Tony Martin is going to win the ITT, don't pick him. Instead pick 2 cheap DS from his team OPQ, and pick the stars who you think will come 2nd and third.
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Good tactics ???

It works if you think you can do that, BUT why not have Martin, plus a DS from his team AND the 2nd and 3rd guys??  3

Thats two points less i think....

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nickobec replied to JAndrewHill | 12 years ago
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JAndrewHill wrote:

How is this for a tactic. If you think Tony Martin is going to win the ITT, don't pick him. Instead pick 2 cheap DS from his team OPQ, and pick the stars who you think will come 2nd and third.
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Good tactics ???

No

It is the opening stage of race. Bonus points on line for winner.

ie you pick the best chances possible to win
1st place = 35pts + 10pts GC + 5 pt points + depending speed up climb KOM points. ie If Tony wins he is worth at least 50pts, 2nd place at least 43pts, 3rd etc.

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drheaton | 12 years ago
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Yeah, one of those  1

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drheaton | 12 years ago
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So far I've got:

An Italian,
A Spaniard,
A Brit
A German
A Yank
A Kiwi,
An Aussie
A Dane
and a member of a certain Baltic state who I'm not giving away just yet!

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Gkam84 replied to drheaton | 12 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

and a member of a certain Baltic state who I'm not giving away just yet!

Estonia - Taaramae/Kangert
Latvia - Saramontins/Smukulis
Lithuania - Navardauskas/Konovalovas

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Stumps | 12 years ago
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Ok how about

2 x Belgian (being picky ?)
2 x french
1 x Aussie
1 x Maori
1 x German
1 x Dane
1 x Slovak

Any Guesses ?

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Gkam84 replied to Stumps | 12 years ago
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2 x Belgian - Boonen and De Clercq or Wynants
2 x french - Di Gregorio and Jerome/Bonnet/Casar
1 x Aussie - Porte
1 x Maori - Henderson
1 x German - Martin
1 x Dane - Morkov/Jorgensen/Klostergaard/Lund (safe to say he's from Saxo and is a DS)
1 x Slovak - Brajkovic

I Must have at least 4 right with a suspicion of 7  19

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ray silvester | 12 years ago
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All change after provisional declarations:
Martin,Wiggins,LuLuSanchez,DeGendt,Porte,Phinney,Astarloza,Moreno,A.N.Other

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Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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Not bad, no American though  3

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TERatcliffe26 | 12 years ago
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unsure on your team and nationalities

I wanna say 1 is german, then brit, then aussie, 4 french, a Spaniard? and i really arnt sure american?

unsure how to describe my team so will just give nationalities

2 french, 1 german, 1 spaniard, 1 estonian, 1 italian, 2 aussies and 1 belgium

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Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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Ok, provisional team picked

1 Rider from a place near a gate where their twin nuns eat on "Anchor"  19
1 Brit
1 Shrimp on a barbie
4 Legs of Frogs
1 Who lays in the sun
1 Little holy drummer boy

You can get 6/9 nationalities, but i bet you dont get 2 of my 9 guys, specifically the first and last clues  26

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makiavelli | 12 years ago
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aside from Tony Martin and Thomas Voeckler, I will leave my star rider slots blank til the last minute.

But i'm fairly set on my domestiques
Michel Kreder 3.2
Ramunas Navardauskas 6.9
Remy DiGregorio 5.8
Pierrick Fedrigo 5.7
Stef Clement?

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Wig_Billy | 12 years ago
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Just picked my provisional team and I'm pretty happy with it, although it's not looking that strong for Stage 2...  3

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Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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Ok with the provisional list, 31 riders is cut to 22, now just to work out DS from Star, that should cut the list down again, then by teams, then i MIGHT have a team to pick

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_SiD_ | 12 years ago
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2 of my DS aren't there - tweak, tweak, tweak.

What i've learned from the pure league is a good DS can be as valuable as a 'star' rider.

Done!

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Mikeh789 | 12 years ago
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