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Paris Nice. Prologue.

My current team for the prologue is the following one:

Wiggins 38.4
T.Martin 38.4
Leipheimer 22.6
Viviani 10.9

Porte 14.4
Gretsch 9.9
Engoulvent 7.7
Kreder 3.2
Astarloza 2.5

Total 148

There are another interesting riders like Van Garderen, Kloden, Brajkovic...

Which is your team?

If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.

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JAndrewHill replied to Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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Kanstantin Siutsou
Pierre Rolland
Rein Taaramae
Thomas Voeckler
Cédric Pineau
Carlos Barredo
Leigh Howard
Stijn Vandenbergh
Anthony Delaplace

My list from above, had to drop Rolland cause he's out and also Delaplace

So in come Basso and Westra, so its

Kanstantin Siutsou
Ivan Basso
Rein Taaramae
Thomas Voeckler
Cédric Pineau
Carlos Barredo
Leigh Howard
Stijn Vandenbergh
Lieuwe Westra

Think thats an all round half decent team  4

Well you've picked 2 of the top 9 for the first stage. . . i.e. you've picked 2 that i have picked.

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thefatcyclist replied to TERatcliffe26 | 12 years ago
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Jings,
Just as well I am waiting on my some coming back from a concert in Glasgow

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bubby016 replied to TERatcliffe26 | 12 years ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:

Bradley Wiggins (SKY)
Jean-Christophe Peraud (ALM)
Rein Taaramae (COF)
Elia Viviani (LIQ)
Jerome Coppel (SAU)
Gianni Meersman (LOT)
Richie Porte (SKY)
Markel Irizar (RSN)
Kris Boeckmans (VCD)

Very similar to mine... at least the domestiques. Have none of your stars.

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lucas replied to arsene | 12 years ago
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arsene wrote:

Cameron Meyer will race Tirreno-Adriatico instead of Paris-Nice  26

Yeah, thanks! At least you made me look at the Tirreno-Adriatico start list here:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/tirreno-adriatico-2012/start-list

and I saw Talansky and Lighthart are riding that, sparing me from picking another set of riders I wanted for Paris-Nice! Thanks for the tip!  1

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TERatcliffe26 | 12 years ago
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I potentially have 6 top 10 guys for the prologue but its all about what happens in the day

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JAndrewHill replied to TERatcliffe26 | 12 years ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:

I potentially have 6 top 10 guys for the prologue but its all about what happens in the day

I hope I have 9 of the top 10 stage 1 finishers in my squad.

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Squiggle | 12 years ago
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It's not Mollema. Not worried about not having the stage 1 winner as I have 2 of his team mates and one of them at least is going to smash it. Also have a team mate of 2nd placed rider not just incase he wins but because he's also going to smash it! I think I have 4 top 7 prologue guys in my star picks, I can't afford the winner without sacrificing one of them so I think it's worth it not to pick him for stage 1.

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Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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Mollema is stupidly expensive this year and also got an upgrade to GC, I'm thinking he might bomb this season and been like Wiggo since he joined Sky, high up in the GC one year and then no where the next  39

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dave atkinson replied to Gkam84 | 12 years ago
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Gkam84 wrote:

Mollema is stupidly expensive this year and also got an upgrade to GC, I'm thinking he might bomb this season and been like Wiggo since he joined Sky, high up in the GC one year and then no where the next  39

don't pick him then, eh  39

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TERatcliffe26 | 12 years ago
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If i had 1 guess id say you mean mollema

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JAndrewHill | 12 years ago
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well smash a top 5 TT and overall podium, let the guessing games begin...

Should have mentioned him now....
B. Wiggins GC SKY 38.4
F. Schleck GC RSN 38.0
A. Schleck GC RSN 37.8
B. Mollema GC RAB 36.8
C. Froome GC SKY 35.8
D. Menchov GC KAT 31.5
I. Anton GC EUS 27.6
A. Kloden GC RSN 27.6
I. Basso GC LIQ 26.7
D. Arroyo GC MOV 24.8
L. Leipheimer GC OPQ 22.6
T. Martin AR OPQ 38.4
T. Hushovd AR BMC 35.0
T. Voeckler AR EUC 33.3
D. Cunego AR LAM 31.1
C. Le Mevel AR GRM 31.1
M. Monfort AR RSN 30.7
K. Siutsou AR SKY 28.3
A. Valverde AR MOV 28.3
D. Millar AR GRM 28.2
T. Boonen AR OPQ 27.8
G. Thomas AR SKY 27.4
S. Chavanel AR OPQ 25.2
N. Nuyens AR SAX 23.5
J. Roy AR FDJ 23.3
J. Brajkovic AR AST 21.8
S. Gerrans AR GRE 21.7
L. Sanchez AR RAB 20.9
B. Leukemans AR VCD 20.5
S. Lagutin AR VCD 20.4
H. Haussler AR GRM 20.3
A. Jeannesson AR FDJ 18.7
T. de Gendt AR VCD 18.4
H. Dupont AR ALM 17.9
F. Sabatini AR LIQ 16.9
K. Kroon AR SAX 15.5

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Squiggle | 12 years ago
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Well I've managed to pick the winner in every first stage this year but I'm not going for either the winner or 2nd placed rider this time as I can't afford them. Interestingly my very first no-brainer pick was someone that nobody has mentioned yet, think he could well smash a top 5 TT and overall podium, let the guessing games begin...  39

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nickobec replied to Squiggle | 12 years ago
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Squiggle wrote:

Well I've managed to pick the winner in every first stage this year but I'm not going for either the winner or 2nd placed rider this time as I can't afford them. Interestingly my very first no-brainer pick was someone that nobody has mentioned yet, think he could well smash a top 5 TT and overall podium, let the guessing games begin...  39

Problem Squiggle is the Winner of the first stage is worth more than the winner of any other stage.

You get 35pts for win + 10pts for leading GC + 5pts for points jersey + possible young riders & KOM points.

So realistically 50% bonus for picking 1st stage winner (over any other stage except when GC changes hands) and if he stays in your team on the 2nd day (predicted sprint finish day) good chance of solid GC & sprint jersey points for that day too.

I am with TERatcliffe26 Blake Mollema, but he is expensive this year.

My form guide for this prologue is the Tour de Suisse prologue, last two years, very similar profile.

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Squiggle replied to nickobec | 12 years ago
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Problem Squiggle is the Winner of the first stage is worth more than the winner of any other stage blah blah blah[/quote]

Actually you've got a fair point there... 93 points for top 2 versus 94 points for 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th. So if I can shoehorn in another good rider then it makes more sense to go for the first option. Going to have another look at it...

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Squiggle replied to Squiggle | 12 years ago
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Ahha here lies the problem... I can't shoehorn in anyone without sacrificing some of my DS riders, and I think this time I might have a good balance. My stars total 100.9 and my DS total 48.6. Sod it I'm going to stick, can't win without some risks!

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Stumps | 12 years ago
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My team is as follows:

L Armstrong
M Indurain
S Kelly
S Roche
G Lemond
P Delgado
M Pantani
D Abdujaparov

and to round it off................F Landis.  24  24

I think they were canny riders.

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JAndrewHill | 12 years ago
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I think the following will do well next week

Phillipe Gilbert
BELLETTI Manuel
KREUZIGER Roman
ROLLIN Dominique
VAN SUMMEREN Johan
LANGEVELD Sebastian
WILSON Matthew
KUSCHYNSKI Aleksandr
GALLOPIN Tony

 1  1  3

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Stumps | 12 years ago
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Personally i think the term "fishing" is more apt than anything else...my team bares absolutely no resemblance to any posted but i'm not leading the comp so what do i know  40

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stealth | 12 years ago
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And this year I am doing each race as 'purist'

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stealth | 12 years ago
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Largely agree with you, except I've gone for Froome instead of Wiggins (saving himself for the Tour & all that.

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parsley76 | 12 years ago
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Well Wiggins, Martin & Porte is a pretty safe bet.
Same here.
And Rein Taramae. He's my banker for this Tour. I can see him doing well in any of the stages.

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TERatcliffe26 | 12 years ago
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I think at the moment as the "official" startlist has not been finalised, Dave may have left the replacements on the selection process as it will be easier just to take off those who are not riding when offically confirmed than add on once confirmed (i may be completely wrong)

On a seperate matter, i love how people still continue to post teams on the forum, whether they are serious teams or just fishing or what. its just funny

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Stumps | 12 years ago
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Someone brought up an interesting point on the other Paris Nice forum. Rasmussen is on the official list as a replacement but he is still on our list as racing - is it that he is a replacement and therefore on our list or is it an oversight or has someone dropped out from Garmin.  7

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kakashi | 12 years ago
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Leipheimer 22.6
Kloden 27.6
Van Garderen 28.8
Menchov 31.5

Coppel 14.6
Talansky 8
Westra 8.4
Astarloza 2.5
Bookwalter 5.9

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veseunr | 12 years ago
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Got to be Daniel Ratto?  4

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JAndrewHill | 12 years ago
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My master plan / genius tactic has been foiled. The cheap team mate of my winner for the ITT has pulled out znd the other team mates are too dear.

Well that's it. I won't win paris nice now.

Nice

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lucas replied to JAndrewHill | 12 years ago
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JAndrewHill wrote:

The cheap team mate of my winner for the ITT has pulled out...

Hmmm...  39 Dare I ask who pulled out?...

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JAndrewHill | 12 years ago
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My 9 guys above were just guys who won a stage or classification in last years paris-nice.
It looks nothing like my current squad.
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ray silvester | 12 years ago
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Stage
1
Paris-Nice
Stage 1: Dampierre-en-Yvelines > Saint-Rémy

Star riders
Bradley Wiggins (SKY)GC Value: 38.4
Luis Leon Sanchez (RAB)AR Value: 20.9
Tony Martin (OPQ)AR Value: 38.4
Thomas de Gendt (VCD)AR Value: 18.4
Domestiques
Richie Porte (SKY)DS Value: 14.4
Stijn Vandenbergh (OPQ)DS Value: 2.7
Taylor Phinney (BMC)DS Value: 11.7
Mikel Astarloza (EUS)DS Value: 2.5
Javier Moreno (MOV)DS Value: 2.5

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chrisdstripes | 12 years ago
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I've gone for Wiggins and Martin, on account of not knowing enough about all this (yet!) to know if anyone is likely to be better over that distance. So playing it safe.
AND a cheap teammate of Martin's, a couple of cheap sprinters for Monday, 2 good American TT-ers, one prologue specialist and a French guy I've never heard of but was the right price and seemed to place high in a recent TT elsewhere. Can then bring in a top sprinter for Monday, and then... well then I'm pretty clueless frankly. Any opinions on how stages 3 and 4 are likely to pan out would be of interest!  1

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