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arfa | 11 years ago
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personally I would be quite happy to see the route rotated just so long as there is a finish along the Mall - I am sure Her Majesty would be happy to oblige with another annual event in her calendar  3

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700c | 11 years ago
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I think Kent would be a great location for next years event, it has three times hosted a TDF stage (I think) and the public would back it I reckon, as they have before

Surrey has had its fair share of cyclists in recent times, both undertaking events and practising for them

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Leviathan | 11 years ago
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You really think 'NIMBY' is name calling? You obviously haven't been on many internet forums or been called many names. If you don't mind the event as long as it is someone else's problem then that is NIMBY.
You really think I have lost the argument; are we even having an argument? My point is that this is not the right place to expect a solution to your problem. I don't know how you will get back from work, but you have 350+ days to work it out.

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freespirit1 | 11 years ago
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Nowhere did I say I want no event. To resort to name calling really is the last refuge of the loser of the argument.

If on that one day I cannot get home from my night shift what do you suggest I do?

You seem to think you have all the answers.

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freespirit1 | 11 years ago
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I am trying to point out that many people are inconvenienced by this event, and was hoping that I could in some small way hope that many of you can see the other side of the argument.

For you to suggest I write to Boris, what good will that do? He is Mayor of London and does not give a flying about us!!

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Leviathan replied to freespirit1 | 11 years ago
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freespirit1 wrote:

For you to suggest I write to Boris, what good will that do? He is Mayor of London and does not give a flying about us!!

'or your local county council'... I DO understand some people were inconvenienced. And I DO understand you do not feel represented or consulted. But what you actually want is NO event or to send it elsewhere (NIMBY.)

If you CANNOT acknowledge the success of this event then you are wasting your breathe here, and are preaching to the wrong demographic; hence my suggestion you write to your local government. If you think they won't care, you are right, because they recognize the success of the event. The event will be back next year for ONE day.

If you think there is a lack of sympathy for you it is inversely proportional to the overinflated sense of injustice you and the other petitioners have when 'your' road is closed for other people to use.

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Leviathan | 11 years ago
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@Freespirit
A few clarifications:
1. The event atarted at 6am. I was already across London and into Richmond Park before 7am.
2. Roads are closed from early hours. Can you imaging trying to get a bypasses or A-roads cleared of traffic with 15,000 cyclists bearing down on you too.
3. Kent might not have the challenging required for the event. It is not just the public sportive but also the professional road race afterwards that uses a similar course, the course was similar to the Olympics for good reason, and to use the same organisation process.

Next years event is already over-subscribed, You really shouldn't expect it to be different. You don't say how the event stopped the trains, unless you are driving to the train station.
I don't quite understand what you want to achieve by posting here. I am sorry you were inconvenienced, but one only has to look at all the people participating and spectating to see that it was a massively successful and popular event. This is democracy in action, directives come from the top, you might not like them but they appeal to the masses, you might not be consulted. I suggest you write to Mr. B Johnson or your local county council, or buy a bike, they are great.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.

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freespirit1 | 11 years ago
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Depending on my shift I may not be able to get to work without a 20 mile detour, or if I am on the night shift as I catch the train then I may not be able to get home to go to bed as I have to work the Sunday night. Before anyone suggests I take holiday why should I for an event that holds no interest for me.

As stated in my other post my mother in laws carers were unable to get to her, that was admittedly more than likely a 'Tin Hitler' ,sorry steward problem than the event itself.

I can see no need for the roads to be closed for 14 hours, the event did not start in London until approx 9:30 the first participants will not be in my area until about 11.

I have noticed in the petitions that those most vociferous in their support for the event are those who do not live in the area.

I have already stated I was massively in favour of the event for Olympics, however at no point was it mentioned that this would be every year.

An objective of thge annual event is including other communities. Ok how about Ride London-Kent, followed by Ride London-Essex, Ride London-Hertfordshire and so on until you get round to Surrey again. Every 5 years or so seems fair and everyone in the Home Counties gets a share.

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SideBurn | 11 years ago
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How much will this event inconvenience you personally? (I am not being sarcastic, serious question)

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freespirit1 | 11 years ago
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bikeboy

It may well be a year to the next event. We shall probably not be advised of road closure times until about 2 to 3 weeks beforehand. If this year is anything to go by.

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SideBurn | 11 years ago
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I don't understand? The story has 104 replies? More than I can be bothered to read  37

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Mart | 11 years ago
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I believe that reflectors on pedals are only a mandatory requirement if they are sold fitted to or with a new bike. This goes for the wheel reflectors and the bell too. Its why most road bikes are sold without pedals (or the cage type with reflectors). The rules for reflectors only apply to a bike while it is being ridden at night.
But I'm sure someone will correct me.

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Leviathan | 11 years ago
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Well only just over a year until the next one so very little time to plan.

I am very interested to see that most bike shops are selling illegal bike pedals with no rear amber reflector. I will write to the makers of Eggbeaters and insist they incorporate them into their design.

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freespirit1 | 11 years ago
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Would love to know whether the residents from Byfleet live on the station side of the route. It does make a massive difference. Carers can get to patients there.

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Gkam84 | 11 years ago
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That story kind of had its time, but quite happy to talk about it on here.

I'll quote you some things from the petition I have started, but yet to really announce.

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Keiron James BYFLEET, UNITED KINGDOM 6 days ago

This is a great event that raises masses of money for charity. It was well advertised and a great day for local communities and definitely not changed. It is one day in a year, you would of thought the world was going to end. Sad that people a so ignorant to the big picture

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Ashley Warner BYFLEET, UNITED KINGDOM 6 days ago

It's only once a year and its great to watch. Its also good for the community and inspires a young generation like the Olympics which was amazing.

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Paul Medcraft WESTCOTT, SURREY, UNITED KINGDOM 7 days ago

It is lovely in Westcott when the roads are closed. Unlike the rest of the year, children can walk around the village without having to be handheld and it is so quiet and peaceful without the noise of cars and motorbikes speeding through.

You'll notice those are just quotes from people who live in the villages you mentioned, read more comments here.

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/surrey-county-council-interact-and...

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700c | 11 years ago
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Ok I will then..

I think the points you made are reasonable, as a resident of the area suffering a particular inconvenience at the time of the event, I do understand your position

As others have pointed out on the original news item, it would be a good idea to vary the route so that the same people are not constantly inconvenienced.

I have no idea why you posted a link to the governments guidelines for cyclists' use of the road, however. (note that much of this is guidance and not rules of the road as denoted by 'you must' in the highway code).

Most of us on here are also car drivers, and as such, have a good appreciation of the needs of all road users, and how to drive and cycle with respect for each other

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