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Magistrate Believes Fairy Tales
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That is the most ridiculous defence I've ever read.
It seems worse (if it can be) by the fact the 'director' drives a gas guzzling mustang which does 0-60 in 4.3seconds.. so he's been caught speeding before, probably multiple times, in a really speedy car, and then says he gets travel sick if he's not driving a car himself.. and that's his argument.. sheer madness!
Give me my licence or I'll sack 320 people. Sounds more like blackmail than a mitigation! Maybe the could do him for that?
Sadly not a shock - don't forget magistrates are volunteers. Plenty of eyebrow-raising tales from the magistrates courts.
This points again for the need for better enforcement. If this chap had been banned there's no guarantee he wouldn't ignore that. The odds of getting away with that would be in his favour. If found driving again it's perfectly possible (cf the people with 20 points on their licences) that the punishment would in no way stop him driving. "Now don't do it again this time..."
I know two people personally who have accumulated over 12 points, but both are still on the roads, Both have amassed these points from continually racking up speeding tickets, yet the judges softly-softly approach doesn't appear to change their behaviour.
Either large brown envelopes are being exchanged, or society is so inured to reckless driving that we take it for granted.
The judges in these cases are being made to look like fools. I suggest they grow a pair and start handing out sentences that act as an actual deterrent. Until then, road safety for all users will never change.
Either large brown envelopes are being exchanged...
I'm pretty sure that Lancashire officers are operating a 'cash for ignoring' scheme in the failure to even acknowledge perfect video evidence of gross red light crashing offences. There are loads of them, nothing whatsoever has happened to any offenders, even the lorries, taxis, council highways vehicles and massive tipper trucks.
If we really must (big big If) keep letting these idiots back on the roads when they would normally be banned, perhaps the courts should be able putting further conditions on these special sentences, like maximum engine capacity/power. Or even that any further infractions will get double the normal sentence (including length of driving ban)
Doubling the sentence won't do anything if they can just claim the same defense. What's needed is for magistrate to be held accountable for not dispensing justice.
yes, if the courts insist on accepting these hardship pleas, then they need to have a fleet of court appointed cars, worst model available, minimal power, badged up on the side " I should be disqualified from driving, so limited to this vehicle"
GPS speed monitored as well.
So doesn't get travel sickness if driving, but does if a passenger.
just get him one of these for the back seat then.
Great - so company directors can get away with breaking the law now?
Are consequences just for wage slaves?
I suggest you never read Private Eye. Or even look at the news...
Bit harsh. HP was clearly tongue in cheek or sarcasm or plain despair !
Do I get a discount for all three?
Black Friday deals have gone I'm afraid.
Good - I tried to ignore Black Friday, but got suckered into buying a thru-axle from Wiggle (I'd managed to round the hex socket a bit on my previous one, replaced it with a 271mm one as I thought that was closer enough to the 270mm required, but then found that I couldn't access my lowest gear).
True that. More realism, more optimism or both!
Is he allowed Christmas day off ?
He is clearly not allowed any holiday or sick leave.
Unless he has a pilots license and his own plane then he can't go abroad on his holidays obviously.
He can take medicine (medicinal Brandy) because he isn't a danger on the building site then. Just decides to be a danger on the roads instead.
"If he lost his driving licence, his company would collapse, Harrogate magistrates heard.
He said it currently employs 320 people and he has held a driving licence for 24 years."
Employ someone else and call them "Driver".
Why would betablockers prevent him from entering a site?
Is there no-one in construction with dodgy hearts?
Would be interesting to see what medical evidence was asked for and submitted to state that betablockers would prevent him from being allowed on a buildingsite.
Or just stand down as director and appoint someone else.
Rebadge the site manager as a director.
I bet all the clients love to meet
the site managera director on site, in the pouring rain.I wonder how his site managers feel, knowing that the clients refuse to discuss things with them but will only speak to a director and in person? I thought that that was what site managers were *for*?
You're forgetting that this a fairy tale. This sort of thing doesn't happen in real life.
I'm unclear from this how/whether a ban was a possibility - seems like a reasonably decent penalty and that court didn't believe a word of this nonsense.
so due the number os sites he needs to attend in a week it's highly likely he will continue speeding to meet his schedule.
along with a string of ridiculous claims, clients who will not deal with directors only managers.
If a ban was an option either he wason his 4th (or greater) speeding offence, or he was significantly over the 70mph limit, (perhaps 100)
Why do they keep accepting that it is the courts responsibility to consider the consequences of a ban, when clearly the driver has had ample time to learn and amend their behaviour.
Exactly.
Possibly bizarrely, I'd have more sympathy the potential ban was for one very extreme case of speeding. At least then, he could claim to have had no warning. But if you have been done for speeding three times; and know that a fourth time would (should) mean a ban; and if driving is so vital to you; then there really is no excuse for not changing your behaviour.