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Police Stop & Question Powers / Staying Local

Yesterday, I watched this video on the BBC site, in it, the Police stopped the lad and ask for his details.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-55842241

In the article itself, there's a link to a Government site, which says you don't have to give your info to them or even stop.

https://www.gov.uk/police-powers-to-stop-and-search-your-rights

It made me wonder, if in the unlikely event you're stopped when cycling outside your "local area", and asked for your details.

Do the above rules apply, or are there newer "Covid rules" which means you must get your details, and therfore face a possible fine or not?

Thanks.

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Hirsute replied to Sriracha | 4 years ago
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Aside from white priviledge.

Reminds me of when a friend was out jogging and was stopped because of a nearby robbery where the criminals had run away.

Can I have your name sir?

Yes, Dr Owen

Ah right, thank you sir <doffs cap>

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don simon fbpe | 4 years ago
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Doesn't the govt have either anti terrorism or covid emergency rules that allow plod to do what they want? In all fairness the tories have been very subtle in the ways that they've eroded your rights. It is a democracy, after all.

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Secret_squirrel replied to don simon fbpe | 4 years ago
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No they dont.  Stop pedalling FUD, you're encouraging idiots like the copper in the video.

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grOg replied to Secret_squirrel | 4 years ago
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that would be peddling FUD.. you pedal a bike.

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Tom_77 replied to don simon fbpe | 4 years ago
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Section 44  of the Terrorism Act 2000 gave the police very broad powers to stop and search. That was found to be in breach of Article 8 of the Convention on Human Rights and has since been repealed.

Section 60 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 is still on the books, but that is a bit more limited in scope.

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don simon fbpe replied to Tom_77 | 4 years ago
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Tom_77 wrote:

Section 44  of the Terrorism Act 2000 gave the police very broad powers to stop and search. That was found to be in breach of Article 8 of the Convention on Human Rights and has since been repealed.

Section 60 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 is still on the books, but that is a bit more limited in scope.

Wasn't the change essentially that section 44 allowed the police "to stop and search an individual without having any reasonable suspicion of them having committed an offence." only to be replaced with "to reasonably suspect an individual of involvement in terrorism before intervening."?

Which as we can see in this video doesn't really count for anything if your face doesn't fit.

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Awavey replied to Tom_77 | 4 years ago
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limited in scope...tell that to football fans

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Hirsute | 4 years ago
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I think if you are a white middle class rider, you don't have anything to worry about.

However the standard of that officer is a worry.

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Awavey replied to Hirsute | 4 years ago
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well up till the point they want to balance their demographic stats out. Ive had that happen twice to me, not as part of this covid stuff, but dont assume just because you are white,middle class,middle aged or even female, that the likes of that type of officer, who isnt a one off by any means, wont stop you.

I know locally the police have decided 10miles is your arbitrary "local" limit, and have been visiting local visitor spots and checking licence plates for locality, and then claiming in local media the public wholly support them and want stricter rules and more punishments handed out so are just enforcing the will of the people.

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