Cyclist detection and warning system to be added to Chichester’s Northgate Gyratory

Could you imagine a gyratory where the left lane has to give way to people in the right lane wanting the exit? Why is it then acceptable for cyclists.

The reason why cyclists have to give way (to the vehicle approaching from behind ) is that it has been clearly deomstrayed numerous times that drivers cannot be trusted to give way to cyclists when the cyclist has priority.

But you are left with this unusable facility. At timrs of peak flow it will be almost impossible to cross the exits and at quiet times there will be unnecessary delay stopping at each give way line to check if it is safe.

Better to put signs up reminding everyone that cycles are vehicles too and that at junctions like this yhey should be taking the line for safety.

Fortunately not in my neighbourhood - a shocking design and one that's only intent is to maximise motorised vehicle flow - would be interested in what sort of speeds vehicles are travelling at?
Generally here in Melbourne, Aus roundabouts are a rarity but I still get fed up with the local council continuing to add cycle lanes to the inside of roundabouts when it is known they do not provide a safe place for cyclists to be - as an experienced cyclist I take the lane every time simply because it is safer - I don't see how providing infrastructure that is dangerous to the user equates with encouraging those nervous about being among vehicles to cycle - appreciate that the signs are an attempt to alter driver behaviour but the real fix is get rid of the inside cycle lanes and if need be (gasps of horror) reduce the speed of the traffic
here's an excellent research paper that suggests that not only should inside cycle lanes on roundabouts be removed but that structural changes should be made to encourage cyclists to take the primary position through roundabouts and this isn't only aimed at roundabouts on quiet residential streets

http://acrs.org.au/files/arsrpe/Cumming%20-%20High%20rate%20of%20crashes%20at%20roundabouts%20involving%20cyclists%20can%20be%20reduced.pdf
based on research in Australia but cites some European and UK work

Why would anyone use the cycle lane if you have to stop and give way at every exit and entry on to the roundabout?
That is the problem and it would be better solved by continuing the cycle lane at a raised level and have drivers give way as they leave or enter by having to drive up a speed table. I believe the Dutch have done this extensively, especiallyu as this location is a gyratory rather than a roundabout in the traditional sense.

Why would anyone use the cycle lane if you have to stop and give way at every exit and entry on to the roundabout?
That is the problem and it would be better solved by continuing the cycle lane at a raised level and have drivers give way as they leave or enter by having to drive up a speed table. I believe the Dutch have done this extensively, especiallyu as this location is a gyratory rather than a roundabout in the traditional sense.

This roundabout hasnt changed in 20+ years, and is has the first cycle lanes that I ever saw. Its not surprising that its outdated.

Oh good, a sign. That'll help.

I've just been in New Zealand and there's quite a bit of this sort of thing, especially around Auckland. Not sure how effective it is as I did my biking on the S island with traffic being pretty sparse and very courteous to cyclists.

Never, ever used the cycle lanes at Northgate. Far safer to ride round it like you would drive round it. Usually WSCC cycling toss. Different colour paint and some distracting signs, rather than real safety via real cycling infrastructure.

But then Pieter Montyn thinks cycling is only something you do for leisure on a Sunday morning and is probably convinced that all cyclists are impoverished yoghurt knitting failures who can't afford cars and don't vote Tory.

Treament of cycling across the whole county is a disgrace and the gap between LSTF bids and what is actually getting built is an out-and-out scandal. Up our way we have a WSCC approved and built cycle-route between Crawley and Horsham that requires a dismounted sprint across all four lanes of a NSL DC or a chance to dice with death on a roundabout on the same road. Cobblers.

I hate this roundabout. Its safer to use the road than the cycle lane. While in the lane you have to give way to trafic both leaving and joining the roundabout, its madness. On some of the juctions you end up having to look in 3 diferent locations at the same time and guess what the non signaling car drivers are going to do. I ride on the road then i can follow the same rules as every body else. The best solution would be to make the lane a true part of the roundabout with the appropiate right of way.

Always been bemused as to why this roundabout is included in the local club 10k TT course....

Good God, just look at it:

https://goo.gl/maps/zc7XE

Cyclists expected to stay left and give way at every junction - on a gyratory. It's a recipe for disaster. What's needed there is a double-width cycle lane, in combination with big changes to each exit - so that vehicles actually have to slow down before zooming off each exit. And cyclists and pedestrians should have priority at each exit, as might be the case overseas.

But of course this would involve slowing traffic down and as we all know, to councils, you might as well burn a Koran in ISIS-controlled territory. So instead they choose to blow money on warning schemes, rather than ENGINEER THE PROBLEM OUT OF EXISTENCE.