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Should we focus so much on HGV's though? Even if they represent a disproportionate number of accidents that will still be the minority compared to those with cars.
Far better for people to actually cut out all those car journeys in cities that could be done on public transport rather than look for a bogey man to blame instead.
I appreciate this comment is completely London centric but we need to make driving here socially unacceptable. You do need to carry 30 tonnes of steel in a lorry, you don't need to drive to the supermarket half a mile away.
we need to ban all private motors from town centres, while at the same time reduce the number, size and speed of hgvs and increase their safety.
the less other traffic on the roads, the worse the hgv drivers drive - at least, the ones delivering to building sites- so their speed in town needs to be severely limited. They seem to see an open road ('open' means no motor traffic, but may contain cyclists) as an invitation to drive at their top speed.
YES, they were involved in around 2/3 of cyclist deaths in London, despite being 4% of London traffic. 9 of the 14 cyclist fatalities in 2013 involved HGVs. The measure had 90% support from the public at consultation. They are a menace!
That's interesting, I hadn't realised how bad it was. Lower in 2014 though:
"In 2014 HGVs accounted for four per cent of all traffic but 38 per cent of cyclist deaths and 25 per cent of pedestrian deaths. A longer term study shows that between 2008-2014 HGVs accounted for 53 per cent of cyclists deaths."
Still, I've been taken out a half dozen times by car drivers on pointless journeys and have to suffer terrible air quality. At least lorries are serving a purpose.
Don't know about you but I can't carry a weeks food for the family home on foot/bike. So if I don't drive to the supermarket I have to get the van to deliver to me instead. Not sure whether this is better or worse.
invest in a cargo trailer... not that expensive and coupled with an e-bike is a win win... it's what I use
It's better; much better.
If everyone did the same, there would only be the need for the supermarket deliver van, which could be powered by hydrogen or electricity, saving how ever many single family car journeys, thereby getting that pollution and congestion off the road.
Spot on - her 'financially viable' is doublespeak too: it might cost buttons for the assembly to bring in, but the costs of reforming from cowboys in MOT-dodging trucks might prove too much for some.
What's not to like with that?
"Too ambitious" means - "we are being asked to have lorries where drivers can properly see who or what (whether cyclist, pedestrians or anyone else) is near them, and we know we should have such lorries, but we don't want to spend the money".
The "cycle award winning manager" was given an award - wrongly in our opinion - by Irish World World Awards.
She has set up a petition for cyclists to have compulsory insurance, ID numbers on bikes - you should get the picture. https://t.co/PmQhc8k1Du
As usual in such cases, she denies the crucial diference in potential lethality between cyclists and her drivers by saying that we should all work together on an equal basis. The victim-blaming of cyclists is accompanied - you guessed it - by say that we should avoid "the blame game."
The fact is that it has been known for some twenty years that HGVs are disporoprtionately invovled in cyclist deaths and more recently it has come to light that twice as many pedestrians as cyclists die in collisions involving HGVs : as yet Ms O'Donovan has not called for compulsory insurance for pedestrians.
I suggest any of your readers who have not so far positively responded to the consultation on safer lorries by the Mayor should respond welcoming it, as have the cyclist, pedestrain and road danger reduction organisations.
Almost all of O'Donovan's lorries are not Direct Vision.
I think you might have examined the issue a little more fully.
Ok, so.collisions are down... Why are people still being killed and seriously injured when there is something that can be simply done to reduce the risk even further?
One death on the roads is too many. The target should be zero and those that stand in the way should bear the costs (NHS, police, fire service, council, courts, compensation to the injured parties (or their families)). The increase in their insurance premiums should concentrate minds.