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Cyclists respond to Lord Adonis "use cycle lanes" comments

After the former transport secretary asked whether cyclists should be allowed to use the carriageway where a cycle lane exists, cyclists give the answer

Last week Andrew Adonis, Former Transport Secretary and Chair of the Infrastructure Commission, asked whether cyclists should be allowed to use the carriageway where bike lanes exist.

The comments came as he retweeted an article, titled “London cycling campaigners must learn from the Charlie Alliston case”, published on the website of former Guardian columnist, Dave Hill, OnLondon.

Adonis commented: “So sad. Worrying trend: cyclists dodge superhighway/carriageway to avoid traffic lights. Common in Parliament Sq”, adding in a second tweet “Should cyclists be allowed to use carriageway where there is a superhighway? Welcome views.”

The initial response was one of disappointment. Some say he should know better. 

Twitter users began by pointing out the green light for cyclists is short at Parliament Square – five seconds according to this footage, resulting in long wait times during busy periods.

Our man, Dave Atkinson gave his two cents: get the infrastructure right, he says, and cyclists won’t need to use the carriageway.

Other examples of when use of a cycle route might not be viable were readily available.

Guardian journalist, Peter Walker, makes a point about Adonis' choice of source.

In a fortnight that has seen cyclists singled out for accusations of being a much bigger danger on the roads than the evidence shows, Adonis' comments prompted a wave of sighs and collective sarcasm.

The most thoughtful of the latter, highlighting the prejudice usually reserved for cyclists, was from Mark Treasure, of the Cycling Embassy of Great Britain.

In a piece titled Superhighway users dodging infrastructure to avoid traffic lights, Treasure turns the dialogue typically reserved for cyclists to pedestrians, by a tongue in cheek piece accusing “militant walkists” of ignoring the infrastructure built at "great expense" especially for them. He says despite there only being a wait of several minutes to cross the road twice to avoid super sewer works alongside London’s East-West Cycle Superhighway, on the Victoria Embankment, with clear maps instructing them how to proceed, many simply walked along the cycle route for a few hundred metres.

Adonis appears to have blocked Treasure after he pointed out bikes with only one brake are common in the Netherlands.

Meanwhile Labour MP for Exeter, and champion of cycling, Ben Bradshaw, offered his help.

As chair of the National Infrastructure Commission, which advises the government independently on transport infrastructure, Lord Adonis reaps benefits for cycling, too. 

Earlier this year he tasked former London Cycling Commissioner, Andrew Gilligan, to work with councils and organisations in Cambridge, Milton Keynes and Oxford, "to create a vision of what is required for cycling to become a 'super attractive' mode of transport in these three cities". Gilligan has been looking at what can be delivered in these places, and what funding will be needed. This is part of a wider "growth corridor" vision.

A sensible suggestion, made by Adonis, is that three sides of Parliament Square should be cycle/pedestrian, reducing through motor traffic – an intervention the London Cycling Campaign has long called for. Well, two sides, anyway.

One person urged Adonis to consider the wider safety issues around physical activity, or a lack thereof.

Laura Laker is a freelance journalist with more than a decade’s experience covering cycling, walking and wheeling (and other means of transport). Beginning her career with road.cc, Laura has also written for national and specialist titles of all stripes. One part of the popular Streets Ahead podcast, she sometimes appears as a talking head on TV and radio, and in real life at conferences and festivals. She is also the author of Potholes and Pavements: a Bumpy Ride on Britain’s National Cycle Network.

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davel replied to burtthebike | 7 years ago
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burtthebike wrote:

Just imagine if all that money, £56bn, was actually invested in something with a proven economic case, twenty times at least that of HS2, like cycling for instance?

But then the previously respected transport minister wouldn't have got to play grown-up train sets.

And all the consultancies that have done 'work' so far wouldn't have been paid £1bn.

And we won't get the braindrain from Birmingham, Manchester and Leeds to London which will happen when they're a bit more 'commutable'.

Can't have that, can we?

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HarryTrauts replied to Yorkshire wallet | 7 years ago
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Yorkshire wallet wrote:
davel wrote:

 

Tuition fees and HS2 seem the mark of archwankery, to me.

I really don't understand the benefits of HS2. Get to London in 20 minutes less. That'll boost the economy.

Perhaps you're being sarcastic, but the idea is that you will be able to get OUT of London more quickly.  I agree it won't help as there's nothing outside of London, is there?  (That was sarcasm)

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maviczap replied to Yorkshire wallet | 7 years ago
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Yorkshire wallet wrote:
davel wrote:

 

Tuition fees and HS2 seem the mark of archwankery, to me.

I really don't understand the benefits of HS2. Get to London in 20 minutes less. That'll boost the economy.

There are no economic benefits, HS2 was a rail project dreamt up by railway builders who didn't have enough work to make them rich. So invent something and then lobby minsters who will benefit from it, whether they are shareholders or connected in some other way. Lots of people making lots of money on this project.

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burtthebike replied to maviczap | 7 years ago
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maviczap wrote:

There are no economic benefits, HS2 was a rail project dreamt up by railway builders who didn't have enough work to make them rich. So invent something and then lobby minsters who will benefit from it, whether they are shareholders or connected in some other way. Lots of people making lots of money on this project.

Was I dreaming one day, or do I remember politicians saying that we were now going to be doing things on the basis of the evidence; "evidence based decision making."

Ho, ho, ho.

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davel replied to burtthebike | 7 years ago
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burtthebike wrote:
maviczap wrote:

There are no economic benefits, HS2 was a rail project dreamt up by railway builders who didn't have enough work to make them rich. So invent something and then lobby minsters who will benefit from it, whether they are shareholders or connected in some other way. Lots of people making lots of money on this project.

Was I dreaming one day, or do I remember politicians saying that we were now going to be doing things on the basis of the evidence; "evidence based decision making."

Ho, ho, ho.

I remember 'Call Me Dave' coming out with that one.

Think it was filed along with 'Big Society' and 'nudging'.

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burtthebike replied to maviczap | 7 years ago
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There are no economic benefits, HS2 was a rail project dreamt up by railway builders who didn't have enough work to make them rich. So invent something and then lobby minsters who will benefit from it, whether they are shareholders or connected in some other way. Lots of people making lots of money on this project.

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Of course there are no economic benefits to society, but as you so rightly point out, massive economic benefits for ministers' buddies.

Pretty much the same thing happening in north Bristol, with a proposed motorway junction, a snip at a mere £400m.  Again no economic case, but loads of money for the developers.

https://www.change.org/p/south-gloucestershire-council-petition-against-...

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Nixster | 7 years ago
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The previously respected former minister for transport said (something silly)...

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