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well at least for me useful advice... prior to reading this I'd have probably assumed that a manufacturer recommend their pads just because thats what they do.....if pads are sold as carbon rim compatable I'd assume they were and all will be OK ...lots of second hand carbon wheel sets on facebook trading site in my locale...some genuine with receipts some probably fake - different issue
Maybe the warning should be something along the lines of "Don't buy second hand kit that you cannot verify is safe to use, or which you cannot be arsed to ensure you set up correctly."
Personally I'd be real wary of buying second hand carbon anything as I have little knowledge of this material and how defects might manifest, or be hidden by an unscrupulous seller. Let alone identifying what might be a fake of questionable manufacture.
I did run carbon rim tri spokes some years back. Lovely to look at, terrifying to stop on when wet. Disk brakes are a very compelling solution if you want carbon wheels.
I've found all three manufacturers rims that I've used to be just fine in the wet, Gigantex, Camagnolo (latest Bora's) and Easton, apparently Corima CF are the daddies still. That said the pros manage to brake just fine from high speed in the wet, it's always the tyres that are the limiting factor, not the rims.
A grapevine story with no details. Just what BA and road.cc should be reporting. Once I fell off my bike when mychain snapped, should we all swap to direct drive? This is up there with nonsense like ‘lawyers lips’.
So ONE person who can't read or thought they could chance their arm going with unsuitable pads had a bit of a cry to Peter Eland and he thought, right, that's it, we need labels and to make a big deal out of this ONE person's issues.
In fact his own statement isn't factually accurate either "If the user manual is lost and non-approved aftermarket pads (even those advertised as "for carbon rims") are used, there is a safety problem"
No, there might be a safety problem on some carbon rims, this is not an absolute as you've said in your statement, it "can arise", meaning it may or may not so more accurately you should have said 'there might be a safety problem for some people who are ignorant and don't know what they are doing so should stay well away from rounded scissors never mind bicycles!'
Might as well put labels on absolutely everything, hope the manufacturers tell him to get a grip and that individuals need to sort their shit out when stuff is common knowledge and when the brakes don't seem to work first time find out why, not carry on regardless until a worse problem arises!
But I'd like to see how many serious injuries or deaths have we had from incorrect brake pads on carbon wheels, say against other 'safety' issues relating to bike components?
Another good argument for disc brakes!
Why? See previous post for experiene of disc brake problems. What price stupidity?
I bought a second hand car that didn’t come with the manual, so I replaced the brake pads with cheese. Almost died on the A12, I wish there were clearer guidelines
So his evidence is second hand stories.