Helmet cam cyclist Dave Sherry says he reports 70 drivers a week

xerxes wrote:

We should club together and buy Dave Sherry a cape; Hi-Vis, natch.

no capes

Xena wrote:

You know they can fit a device in any car so that your phone won’t work . Why don’t they do this .

it will save life’s and  quite a few crashes from happening as well .  

What you can’t do is stop people from bad driving. People make mistakes, make a bad call . 

If people chilled out a bit more and stopped getting so wound up things would be a lot better but the truth is most people are always in a fucking hurry and if your slowing them down ,be it a bike a car a bus a lorry  everyone else is a arsehole because they are slowing you down.  I’m out on bike most days, now and then someone starts to pull out a bit or someone gets a bit close  , so fucking what , it happens , now and then I make a mistake as well , it what we do, no one is fucking perfect .  No one is hurt no damage been done “ forget about it “ it’s a nothing issue .  Relax out there  swearing fighting is just a waste of time and energy over a non event ( I used to do it )  that if you let it pass 30 seconds later you will be thinking about something else . If your not then you should not be on the roads . Because it’s a definitely not going to go your way every time  and the mental stress if that’s where your heads at is going to send you to a early grave “ if the hearse arrives in time“

If though some manic is out there trying to deliberately kill someone then back off get the reg number and repot it . Most of the time it’s just people error. 

I personally think the guy above needs to let go , move on, it was unfortunate what happened but it’s dictating is whole life .  That’s  not healthy . 

Are you related to Xenophon2? Similar attitude, it seems...

Xena wrote:

You know they can fit a device in any car so that your phone won’t work . Why don’t they do this .

it will save life’s and  quite a few crashes from happening as well .  

Where to start? Modern cars use a shedload of features relying on the mobile phone network, such as real time traffic info, real time map re-routing, emergency comms to recovery and dealer network in the event of breakdown/accident, not to mention the fact that if you witness an accident you might actually want to stop and phone an ambulance without getting out of you car in the pissing rain where its touch-screen wont work.  All of the above are intended to help traffic flow and safety, and it would be a shame to jam them instead of cracking down on the feckwits phoning home to tell their partner to put the dinner on. 

I do wonder however why we can't have cameras at traffic lights to video drivers using phones. It would seem to be like shooting fish in a barrel.  

Griff500 wrote:

Xena wrote:

You know they can fit a device in any car so that your phone won’t work . Why don’t they do this .

it will save life’s and  quite a few crashes from happening as well .  

Where to start? Modern cars use a shedload of features relying on the mobile phone network, such as real time traffic info, real time map re-routing, emergency comms to recovery and dealer network in the event of breakdown/accident, not to mention the fact that if you witness an accident you might actually want to stop and phone an ambulance without getting out of you car in the pissing rain where its touch-screen wont work.  All of the above are intended to help traffic flow and safety, and it would be a shame to jam them instead of cracking down on the feckwits phoning home to tell their partner to put the dinner on. 

I do wonder however why we can't have cameras at traffic lights to video drivers using phones. It would seem to be like shooting fish in a barrel.  

I have been told that cameras have been developed and are being tested, to catch mobile phone users. I believe that they will be incorporated into speed and traffic light cameras.

biker phil wrote:

Griff500 wrote:

Xena wrote:

You know they can fit a device in any car so that your phone won’t work . Why don’t they do this .

it will save life’s and  quite a few crashes from happening as well .  

Where to start? Modern cars use a shedload of features relying on the mobile phone network, such as real time traffic info, real time map re-routing, emergency comms to recovery and dealer network in the event of breakdown/accident, not to mention the fact that if you witness an accident you might actually want to stop and phone an ambulance without getting out of you car in the pissing rain where its touch-screen wont work.  All of the above are intended to help traffic flow and safety, and it would be a shame to jam them instead of cracking down on the feckwits phoning home to tell their partner to put the dinner on. 

I do wonder however why we can't have cameras at traffic lights to video drivers using phones. It would seem to be like shooting fish in a barrel.  

I have been told that cameras have been developed and are being tested, to catch mobile phone users. I believe that they will be incorporated into speed and traffic light cameras.

They're already in use actually, having passed the testing phase.

biker phil wrote:

I have been told that cameras have been developed and are being tested, to catch mobile phone users. I believe that they will be incorporated into speed and traffic light cameras.

Yes, but they can't tell if the passenger is using it.

duplicate, please ignore...

Mungecrundle wrote:

It should be pointed out quite clearly that Dave Sherry does not target drivers. He targets criminals driving carelessly, driving dangerously, driving whilst distracted with mobile phones or even driving whilst eating their cornflakes.

Such criminals affect every other driver, not just vulnerable road users such as cyclists and pedestrians (though the consequences may be much worse and much more personal). From the annoyance of a totally avoidable fender bender to the delays caused by blocking roads due to incidents, cost to society, the NHS, additional pressure on emergency first responders, the additional cost included in everyone's policy so that insurance companies stay on the right side of premiums v claims right up to the deaths and serious injuries of totally innocent drivers and their passengers.

Presumably Ms Malory wouldn't be too worried about a concerned member of the public reporting a drunk driver or someone driving recklessly near the local playground, or indeed reporting any number of non motoring related criminal offences. Why does she feel that a blind eye should be turned simply because the criminial is commiting an offence whilst driving?

That Dave Sherry has chosen to specialise in criminals being criminals whilst driving is due to his experience. Critiscising him for that decision is a bit like critiscising someone who raises charity cash for cancer rather than all diseases in general.

Excellent point. If you saw someone breaking into a car or someone's home, would you phone the police or just ignore it?

Ignoring a crime is antisocial, reporting a crime is the socially responsible thing to do.

Legs_Eleven_Worcester wrote:

Next up: 'should shoplifters be prosecuted?'.

I thought that depends on the value? £200 isn't it ?

hirsute wrote:

Legs_Eleven_Worcester wrote:

Next up: 'should shoplifters be prosecuted?'.

I thought that depends on the value? £200 isn't it ?

Well, yes and no.  Shoplifting isn't actually an offence per se, and was just classed as 'theft' under s.1 of the Theft Act 1968.   The new s. 22A(3) of the Magistrates' Courts Act 1980 now defines 'low level' theft as anything under £200.   You can't be sent to Crown Court for trial or for sentencing.

But my point was that only in the case of drivers, is so much done to spare them the 'ordeal' of answering for their actions.  The only other 'class' of citizens who get such leniency and indulgence from the criminal justice system are women.