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Gloucestershire road rage ninja woman kickRoad Rage Ninja Woman 2: The Director's Cut
Additional footage posted to YouTube of an incident in the Gloucestershire countryside showing a black clad woman attempting to push a slow-pedalling cyclist off his bike, the subject of an appeal by local police as we reported earlier today, appears to cast events in a new light.
According to the video posted to the site on 17 April – it’s unclear if this is the specific clip that prompted the police appeal – the cyclist in question is a hunt supporter, deliberately riding slowly in the middle of the road to prevent a car containing hunt monitors from reaching the location where a hunt is taking place.
The video includes audio from the occupants of the car immediately following the cyclist, and it appears that he rode in this way for several minutes prior to the incident, along the way cycling past a passing place where, in ordinary circumstances, most cyclists pull over and let motor traffic past.
What the video does determine is that the woman who attempts to punch and kick the cyclist wasn’t in the first vehicle, whose occupants appear to be in radio contact with another person, and there’s no suggestion that she herself is known to them or indeed a hunt monitor.
The latter, who in the days before the Hunting Act would perhaps more typically have been termed hunt saboteurs, undertake monitoring of hunts on a voluntary basis to ensure that they comply with legislation banning the hunting of foxes with hounds, among other things, and there have been several cases of people associated with hunts being convicted of violence towards them.
The cyclist’s own action in this case, if the circumstances reported in the video are correct, are of course non-violent and certainly don’t excuse the actions of the woman in black; the background, however, including the length of time he rode at that pace and failure to stop at a passing place does provide context that help explain how the situation arose.
Thanks to road.cc user littlelegs for alerting us to the extended version of the YouTube film
Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.
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She is ****ing hot you gais!
Look, I am not as quick as I used to be, I had a flash back to one of my breakaways as a pro and I thought it was my support car following.
It did all turn out for the best, me and the foxy redhead got married 6 months later.
Wedding breakfast was roasted fox .. mmmmm!
Right or wrong, I'm in love with a gorgeous feisty young woman !!
My point is that it's entirely subjective. He was beeping because he was angry that he hadn't been able to pass instantly on the narrow road, which makes it similar to this.
"No doubt the driver thought that I was "behaving like a dickhead" for wearing lycra etc."
No, he may think you look like a dickhead. You weren't doing anything like what the dickhead in the video was doing.
Anyone who thinks that an individual deserves to be assaulted because "he was behaving like a dickhead" or some such needs to think about how subjective that statement is. I was beeped at on Saturday morning for riding at a steady 15-20mph on the left side of a country road, in visible clothing, good weather conditions and observing the law. No doubt the driver thought that I was "behaving like a dickhead" for wearing lycra etc.
It's got nothing to do with what you think constitutes stupid behaviour, in this case it's what the assaulter thinks that counts, and all too often they are brainless fools.
I think I may be in love with a Ninja
Is he a definite, nailed on fox hunter? Or are we still in the grounds of "might be a fox hunter"?
He could, after all, be a local who thinks "I live round here and cycle round here all the time, why should I be bullied off the road by a load of people speeding round trying to make a name for themselves"?
I highly doubt that the girl in question wasnt carefully and deliberately chosen to do that job. If they had sent a bloke out to give him a crack there is a strong chance the fella could have given him a good belting back. Send a 'pretty young girl' out to assault him and chances are the fella isnt going to start swinging ear warmers at her, also, you stand a better chance of getting away with assault as 'she's only a pretty little girl, what damage could she do?'
Cleverly planned.
+1
Foxhunter or not, you should be able to ride around your local lanes in peace without being attacked by people who are in too much of a hurry for whatever reason.
We're making assumptions here, the convoy of cars that were all linked up via a radio system and were getting so het up about being slowed to 5 miles an hour that sending someone out to assault someone else seemed like a reasonable thing to do may have spent the day driving sensibly and not hooning around the countryside.
If you can't be arsed to slow down for a local on his bike, you're using the wrong road. And in too much of a hurry.
"Whether or not the bike rider is a prat, that doesn't excuse the assault."
Yes, yes it does. She 'helped' him over to the side of the road (health & safety, don't you know...) then he raises a hand to her - looks like he got a feel as well, the dirty ba$tard.
"Anyone thinking this is aceptable because he seems to be a hunt supporter, need to think if it would be ok if someone attacked them because of their views."
No, it's because he's behaving like a d1ckhead. I very much doubt any damage was done.
It doesn't matter that the guy was riding like a prat, that is still an assault and battery.
The lawful defenses to assault are: Consent, self-defence, defence of property and the prevention of crime
None of which would apply here.
So she would still be guilty of the assault.
Lovely backside she has!
He amy have been riding in an inconsiderate way, but she is still guilty of an assault. The Police will still want to find her.
Anyone thinking this is aceptable because he seems to be a hunt supporter, need to think if it would be ok if someone attacked them because of their views.
Whether or not the bike rider is a prat, that doesn't excuse the assault.
What a douche. Deserves what he got and the rest of it and anyway I think she offsets any offence with tight pants - that will stand up in court, I'm sure.
The above framing is a fine example of weasel-wording. If we manage to drop our predjudices relating to the relative attractiveness (and she is hot), attire and attitude to animals the simple fact is that a motorist assaulted a cyclist because they felt the cyclist should get out of their way.
I expect to see the above quote or qualification appended to all road.cc stories about assaults on cyclists in the future ... be careful what you condone.
I don't see any "condoning" going on in those "weasel words" Ush, but then I don't have the benefit of such an elevated position on the moral high ground as you. And to be strictly accurate from what we know he wasn't attacked by a motorist, it's more likely she was a passenger - not quite the same thing + there is a difference between riding slowly (I do that every day) and knowingly obstructing the traffic - a difference that can get you nicked.
I'd say the context this second vid provides is the simple one that he could quite easily have pulled over at the passing place to let traffic pass - that is the considerate thing to do whatever type of slow-moving vehicle you are in charge of. It's got nothing to do with fox-hunting or the fact that she is 'hot' which didn't buy here any sympathy in our story about the first video either.
The rights and wrongs of this case aside it would also be grown up of us to acknowledge that cyclists aren't always in the right - I know that as a cyclist I've been involved in situations with other road users of which I'm not proud which is why I always try to avoid getting too sanctimonious about cases like this - where it would seem difficult to portray the victim as a paragon of cycling virtue and the plain fact is that neither of the two parties in this incident come out of it with much credit even though one is undeniably hot and the other is undeniably a cyclist.
Ah go on! You're viewing this from the lofty, detached peak of non-sanctimonious adulthood. It's quote obvious that you're a superior being.
Strawman. Never denied that. Don't deny that he's behaving like a prat. But we're not talking about getting nicked, we're talking about being assaulted by another road user.
Agreed. He was being the opposite of considerate. And he was assaulted as a consequence of it. And the next time a motorist feels aggrieved that some ned in lycra is, from their perspective, being "inconsiderate" they'll know they rest upon a culture of tolerance of violence towards other road users.
Ah go on! You're viewing this from the lofty, detached peak of non-sanctimonious adulthood. It's quote obvious that you're a superior being.
Nah! When it comes to being sanctimonious I can only aspire to your pro-level performance - you could get a job writing op-ed pieces for the Daily Mail… unless you already have
You put your finger on it there, I think.
The cyclist's actions are non-violent, that's true. But he should have stopped at the passing place he cycles by.
Besides, if he's a fox hunter, I would have run the twerp over!
Hilarious. Given that there are multiple occasions where motorists have sufficiently dehumanised "cyclists" I'd like to send you to spend some time cracking jokes to the families of victims of your Daily Mail attitudes.
The cyclist's own actions are indeed non-violent, but potentially with the intention of allowing a separate violent (i.e. the hunt) incident to take place.
Of course, as you say, there is no suggestion that Ninja girl is connected with this any more than in a typical road rage sense.
Interesting to see that Kaya Burgess in the Times first referred to the Mail's edited version and has now on Twitter said:
"There's another view of cyclist/woman incident, that it might be foxhunting related and he was doing it deliberately. Will try to find out"
Chapeau to RoadCC for the update - I doubt very much if the Mail will do the same as it may be contrary to their apparent line on reporting stories of a cycling nature.
I like to think it has taken several months for a poor researcher to edit the video down to a length that makes a retired colonel from Middle Wallop foam at the mouth and spill his brandy in less than a minute.
Can someone else check, please? I already feel sick having had a look more than once today
The idiot deserved to be handbagged
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