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Schrödhangar's paradox: "Unnecessary" bike hangars "not used" by cyclists irk residents when they're being used; How to get around bike sheds being "detrimental to Victorian homes"; New Tour de France kits; Boris bike in Brighton + more on the live blog

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14 June 2023, 09:15
Schrödhangar's paradox: "Unsightly and unnecessary" bike hangars "not used" by cyclists irk residents when they're being... used

That's a new one for the anti-cycling bingo! We have had residents concerned by "giant and ugly" bike hangars, even naming them a "green measles", we have had them accused for "deliberately blocking" drivers' precious parking spaces.

This time, we have residents who think they are unnecessary because they are never in use, complain about how much they are annoyed when they are being used.

Bike hangar in Hackney (image courtesy of Cyclehoop)

Inslington Tribune reports that residents from a "small picturesque" street in Highbury are saying that they have too many bike hangars for demand, calling them "unsightly and unnecessary" if they are not being used.

“We want that hangar gone for starters,” said resident Val Hammond, about one of the facilities which they claim is permanently empty. “We want proper numbers because our research absolutely does not match up with the council’s.”

At the same time, a man with a mobility scooter was reported to be saying that he has to wait to get out of his home whenever someone is using the hangar.

So are the hangars being used, or not being used? Does anyone want to open and see? Or should we let the mystery of Schrödhanger remain a mystery?

14 June 2023, 16:57
"Just stick some Range Rover badges on the front & back and lift one side onto the pavement"

I started the day off with the IrishTM way to get around councils not letting you build bike sheds in your front garden. Now what better way to end the day with a comments roundup on how to not offend people with bike hangars.

First up, Brauschsel commented: "I expect the residents of the small, picturesque street all have small, picturesque cars that are wholly in keeping with the urban environment as it was originally built."

Then we had Real Gaz (@gazza_d) on Twitter: "Maybe we need to disguise the hangers as wankpanzers, vans, or caravans". To which, Yair Shahar (@yshahar) contributed: "Just stick some Range Rover badges on the front & back and lift one side onto the pavement 😹".

Everyone's Favourite Jim (@JimmerUK) honed in on the idea: "Just disguise them as beautiful transit vans then. If they don’t recognise them as bike hangars, then they’ll have nothing to complain about."

And then, we had an illustrative description too. Folks, hear me out, this might just work!

Meanwhile, as I was all busy trying to figure out the materialistic complications and urban nuisances of the subject, Edward Oelman on Facebook posed a philosophical question with so much metatext to think about, it completely derailed my train of thought: "Begs the question at what point the bike hanger is in use. When there is a bike in it or when it is empty..?!"

Thankfully, Jamie Barber's comment was ironic and straightfoward enough to bring me back to reality: "Are these the same paradox cyclists who are simultaneously blocking the road holding up traffic whilst at the same time riding on the pavements?"

14 June 2023, 15:57
Giulio Ciccone extends contract with Trek-Segafredo till 2027

Ciccone at Trek-Segafredo for the next four years! No one tell him about that new kit though!

Ciccone-Trek-Road-Camp-Calpe-2022-RB-Web-Res-538 (Trek)

Ciccone has been a part of the Trek team since 2019, announcing himself to the world stage with a memorable stage win at the Giro d’Italia and a stint in the coveted Maillot Jaune at his first Tour de France.

The Italian has had a pretty consistent season this year, and was one of the favourites for a stage win at the Giro d'Italia. However, he became one of the first riders to fall prey to Covid, which would later go on and cause a rampage in the peloton later, and had to withdraw even before he could show up at his home Grand Tour.

However, he's recovered and put in a good performance at the Critérium du Dauphiné, even securing victory in the final stage as he sets his sights on the Tour de France next month.

Ciccone said: "The desire to extend my contract until 2027 is not just a professional choice, but a life choice. I have decided to spend the best years of my career with this Team, this group, this family. My relationship with Trek will extend to nine years and I couldn’t be happier."

"The new sports project we’re approaching is an opportunity for me and the team to confirm our common desire to pursue new and important goals. We are both ambitious and eager to show our value, to grow further. I'm super excited about it."

"In the end, let me say thanks. To Trek, which from day one has allowed me to be myself in and out of racing. To the management, to all the staff, to my teammates. And last but of course not least, to Luca Guercilena, the person who always had the right words for me and never, ever stopped believing in me."

Trek's general manager Luca Guercilena said: "We believed in Giulio from the very first moment. He is a pure talent, his extravagant approach to cycling makes him a unique character in the sport. He has competition in his DNA, he loves winning, and whatever the race, he puts on a show.

"Giulio is a fascinating rider, a bit old-fashioned, and that is why we want to hold on to him. Now, the time for maturity has come. Together, we have set big goals for the future. We will do whatever it takes to give him the best support and to see him bring out all his talent."

Ciccone-Trek-Road-Camp-Calpe-2022-RB-Web-Res-536 (Trek)

Now the question is, with no outright GC leader in Trek, will Ciccone, a brilliant sprinter (he outsprinted Primož Roglič and Remco Evenepoel at the top of Vallter 2000 at this year's Volta a Catalunya) and a prolific climber, will he become the man to lead Trek's GC charge or go stage hunting?

At least at the Giro d'Italia in May, he was supposed to take on the former duties. At 28 years of age, Ciccone is definitely going to be spending the prime of his career with Trek, but is the weight of winning a GC hampering his chances of winning stages and hilly classics? I'm not sure, but there could be an argument to be made...

14 June 2023, 15:05
Felix Gall goes top of the GC at Tour de Suisse with first pro WorldTour stage win, Remco Evenepoel finishes second

AG2R Citroën's Felix Gall should sleep happy tonight.

The 25-year-old Austrian has just won the first WorldTour stage of his life, soloing to the top of Leukerbad in Valais, Switzerland and fending off world champion Remco Evenepoel by more than a minute, and yesterday's stage winner and the current GC leader Mattias Skjelmose of Trek-Segafredo.

Speaking after the victory, Gall said: "I'm a little bit overwhelmed with the situation. I still don't know what to think, I still cannot really believe it. The first professional victory at the Tour de Suisse and also now the leader's jersey... I didn't think it would be possible."

The stage 4 win takes Gall to the top of general classification at the Tour de Suisse, but only 2 seconds ahead of Skjelmose and 16 seconds ahead of Soudal Quick-Step's Evenepoel.

In other classifications, Jumbo Visma's Wout van Aert stays in control of the points jersey, with Gall behind, while the Dane himself is leading the Youth classification too.

Funnily enough, the top three of the GC currently is the same as the top 3 of the the Youth classification. With 19-year-old Lenny Martinez also taking his first stage win at Mont Ventoux yesterday, these young crop of riders continue to amaze me with their sheer determination and capabilities (it does also make me feel old and not good enough, but maybe the blog isn't the place to talk about this...)

The 23-year-old Evenepoel, meanwhile, is making a return to pro cycling after his brush with Covid at the Giro d'Italia from which he was forced to withdraw while wearing the pink jersey. Evenepoel seemed to struggle to regain yesterday, and even in the early parts of today's stage 4, however, he came alive in the closing phase, finishing strongly.

It wasn't enough to get him the victory, but it still keeps his chances of winning the Tour well and kicking. But the Danish Skjelmose will also be looking to regain his lead in tomorrow's stage, which features some tall climbs with steep gradients and finishing on a descent.

And according to Skjelmose, today's loss of the yellow jersey was more or less strategic, and the stage played out nicely for Trek-Segafredo's plans. The 22-year-old had told Danish TV right after the stage that the plan was to lose the jersey to anyone but Evenepoel, and preferably to Gall since he was confident that he can take a lot of time on Gall on the upcoming TT.

Well, mind games and strategies galore! Surely seems to be unfolding into a rather gripping second half to the Tour.

14 June 2023, 13:57
Is that smooth of a tarmac even possible?! Tour de Suisse flexes excellent roads

Seriously, I thought this photo had been put through a severe noise reduction or smoothening filter on the editing app, but no. Making smooth roads is actually possible. 

14 June 2023, 12:46
Tour de France: Unchained producer in Geraint Thomas and Luke Rowe's podcast

There's been quite a few mixed reactions to Netflix's Tour de France documentary (wait a little while to hear our thoughts on road.cc's next podcast 👀), but it seems the 2018 yellow jersey enjoyed being in it.

James Gay-Rees, the founder and producer of Box to Box films, the production house behind Unchained as well as the Formula 1 docuseries Drive to Survive, came to Luke Rowe and G's podcast 'Watts Occurring' to share his process of making the show... and why wasn't Luke featured more.

In the interview, Gay-Rees reveals that he wasn't a fan of the sport before his production decided to tackle last year's Tour and make a show out of it. "I was a bit like Tour de France, I don't get it, I don't understand it. It's too complicated," he said.

"I was a bit scared of it, to be honest with you. And I'm a massive sports fan," he continued. "It's been a real pleasure for me to get my head around it, because I really was a bit sceptical, not in the sense that I didn't think it would be a good spectacle, but I was just a bit like, I didn't get it. But I've been really pleasantly surprised by the whole thing."

14 June 2023, 12:30
“The lady in the car was watching Netflix”: Mum calls for CCTV cameras to protect cyclists after teenage son struck by ‘distracted’ hit-and-run driver in bike lane
14 June 2023, 11:46
"The right to safe working conditions is a universal human right": Fallout from Tour Féminin des Pyrénées as cyclists condemn organisers and express disappoint
Tour Féminin des Pyrénées 2023 (GCN/Eurosport)

What a shambles this whole thing has been...

First, parked cars, moving traffic including a large bus, and wayward spectators threatened the peloton's safety, then the next day was marked by protests and neutralisations, and finally the third day of the tour in the Iberian mountains was cancelled by the UCI after overnight negotiations with the pro cyclists' union CPA.

But the horror wasn't over yet (is it ever over?). On Monday, we reported that the "sexist" race organisers faced severe backlash after referring to pro riders as "girls" and "spoiled children" for cancelling the tour.

> “They think they’re on the Tour de France”: Backlash against “sexist” race organiser who called pro riders “girls” and “spoiled children” over cancellation due to safety fears

The Cyclists' Alliance, made up of former and current female pro cyclists has released a scathing statement, condemning the organisation of the race and expressing their disappointment.

"After day one, we understood that the organiser assured teams that the safety situation would improve. This was not the case. Day two was equally unsafe. 

"Despite the concerns being expressed by riders and teams, the organisers were reluctant to cancel the race after the conclusion of day two. The procedure for evaluating the safety of the race was not clear. 

"Furthermore, responses to teams’ concerns during the race appeared, at times, dismissive and disingenuous.  The organisers have subsequently been reported in the French media as saying that the riders, teams, and the UCI are at fault.

"TCA expresses disappointment that these antiquated attitudes about rider safety and women’s sport still exist. In light of these events, we urge the UCI, national federations, UCI race organisers and UCI road cycling teams to renew their commitment to ensuring modern and safe working conditions for all UCI riders."

> Tour Féminin des Pyrénées stopped amidst rider safety issues

The TCA pointed out under the UCI regulations, ot is a standard expectation across all disciplines that "all traffic shall be stopped on the course as the race passes through". 

It said: "Professional female cyclists expect these conditions are standard and should not be expected to compromise on safety just to have the opportunity to race. Equal standards of safety for female athletes is the bare minimum.

"The race organisers for the Tour Féminin International des Pyrénées boasted an impressive prize pot of €50,000 and live coverage on GCN.  It is evident that they failed to allocate money to ensure a safe race which complies with UCI objectives and regulations."

The TCA also criticised the decision-making procedure and how it bestows power in the hands of the organisers, failing to acknowledge the "vested interest of the organiser in maintaining the status quo i.e. continuing the race and not spending money to make the race safer for riders".

The cyclists' representative body added: "We call upon the UCI to urgently reconsider these aspects of the protocol, in light of the events at the Tour Féminin International des Pyrénées, in order to ensure greater independence, free from conflicts of interest, when difficult decisions around race safety need to be made.

"After the conclusion of the race on Sunday, we have seen riders speaking up to emphasise that they want to see races which prioritise safety first, then media exposure, and then prize money – in that order. 

"TCA expresses gratitude that no rider was severely injured, or worse, during the event, and hopes that the major stakeholders involved in women’s racing can all work together to ensure there is no repeat of events like this. For any riders with outstanding concerns relating to race safety, we invite you to connect by e-mail: info [at] cyclistsalliance.org."

"The right to life, and to safe working conditions is a universal human right."

14 June 2023, 11:31
Boris bike spotted in Brighton

Now which one of you is going from London to Brighton on a Santander bicycle?!

Whoever the person behind this, at least they didn't take it all the way up to Mont Ventoux!

> Video: Boris bike vs Mont Ventoux

14 June 2023, 10:46
Team bosses split over proposal to broadcast team radio at Tour de France
Pinot battles to third on the stage to Mende at the 2022 Tour de France (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

If watching the Netflix documentary of TdF has got you intrigued for more behind the scene team radios and communications, the organisers might have something cooking for you.

Ouest France reports that the race organisers ASO have proposed to this year’s participating teams that their race radio conversations be broadcast on the live stream, like last year's Tour de France Femmes. However, team bosses are split.

Groupama-FDJ's manager Marc Madiot told the newspaper: "Can you imagine we’d reveal our conversations on TV?"

"Do you really conceive a TV camera being allowed to film a football team trainer giving his players their half-time instructions?"

On the other hand, Jean-René Bernadeau of TotalEnergies seemed more open to the proposal, saying: "We have nothing to hide, so we’re ok with this."

His sports director Benoît Génauzeau was in on the idea as well, saying that "this forms part of the evolution of our sport", and shutting down Madiot's claim that this will give away any secrets. "If it's screened [before being broadcast], I can work with this," he said.

It definitely does lay an interesting proposition, while this could make the race more interesting, enjoyable, and even informative for the viewers (it's been a thing in Formula 1 forever; although the broadcast is a few seconds delayed), but with strategy being such an important part of a stage race, could this hurt teams and force them to adapt their communication techniques?

I wouldn't mind listening to Madiot go absolutely ballistic and cheer Thibaut up a double-figure gradient climb, or see if Lefevre still misses Cavendish or not. But what do you think?

14 June 2023, 08:54
Strava Heatmap could allow identification of user addresses, say researchers
14 June 2023, 08:33
🤩New Tour de France kits!

If yesterday's Team DSM kit klaxon left you a bit cold, this Bora-Hansgrohe kit might make you slightly warmer.

Marking 10 years of participating in the Tour, the very, very, very pearl green kit, completely does away with the white and orange accents, and I think it looks pretty neat. And if you look close enough, it has the names of all the Bora riders who have made history with the team over the last decade.

And if you forgot, the names include Peter Sagan. Lots of Peter Sagan.

Team manager Ralph Denk said: "Time goes by incredibly fast and this year we are competing in the Tour de France for the tenth time. But the stories we have written over the years remain unforgettable. Taking seventh overall with Leo König in our first appearance. The first stage win with Peter Sagan in 2017, followed shortly by the low point, Peter's disqualification.

"Two green jerseys. Fourth place overall with Emanuel Buchmann in 2019. The list is long and the memories are incredibly beautiful. Through this jersey, I would like to thank all the riders who wrote these stories with us. Without them, none of this would have been possible.

"I definitely hope that we can continue to create special moments at the world's biggest cycling race this year, and in the future, and that we inspire fans with our passion."

14 June 2023, 08:13
Bike sheds are detrimental to Victorian homes, but guess what's not?
Bike shed (Bluum)

How much is too much to ask for? Apparently, a wee bike shed for a Clontarf couple in Dublin, Ireland. But fret not, a lovely chap has a "modest proposal" to get around the rules.

In a letter to the Irish Times, Dara Hogan reveals how to pull a sneaky one and stick it to the authorities and get yourself a nice, okay maybe not so nice but completely permissible bike storage space.

Sir, – There is a simple solution for the Clontarf couple who were refused permission for a bike shed in their front garden (“Bike shed in front garden ‘detrimental’ to Victorian home setting, planners rule”, News, June 13th).

Simply apply for planning permission for a driveway, cover the front garden in concrete, park a dilapidated old van in the driveway and store their bikes in it. – Yours, etc,

Wonderful world we live in, where bike sheds are detrimental to Victorian homes but a concrete driveway parked with oil-burning, smoke-spewing, old vans are not!

Adwitiya joined road.cc in 2023 as a news writer after graduating with a masters in journalism from Cardiff University. His dissertation focused on active travel, which soon threw him into the deep end of covering everything related to the two-wheeled tool, and now cycling is as big a part of his life as guitars and football. He has previously covered local and national politics for Voice Wales, and also likes to writes about science, tech and the environment, if he can find the time. Living right next to the Taff trail in the Welsh capital, you can find him trying to tackle the brutal climbs in the valleys.

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keirik | 1 year ago
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I think I'm going to stop reading road.cc, it's all too depressing. Is there any cycling related news that isn't about people getting killed, councils blocking races or secure parking, or morons protesting because they've been held up by a cyclist for a nanosecond?
Can't road.cc be more of a beacon of positivity for a bit?

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Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Errrr
https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/23586821.felixstowe-man-speaks-strange-3-000...

It doesn't have any pedals because I was using them on a different bike," he said.
NFN

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NOtotheEU | 1 year ago
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Not only do the Swiss have smooth roads, I believe they keep the same reg plate for life and from this anyone can identify the owner and their address. Seems like a great system but obviously I hope no cyclists use it for exacting revenge for dangerous driving, ahem.

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bikes | 1 year ago
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Can you put wheels on a shed and call it a trailer? You could use Victorian cart wheels so it doesn't "injure the amenity" (a phrase from Glasgow planning department's demand for an owner to remove a bike shed I read about a few years ago).

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Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Just stopped some idiot overtaking me on double white when they failed to see a hidden dip and failed to see the car coming the other way before the dip.
There was no where for me to go.

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ShutTheFrontDawes replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Hirsute wrote:

Just stopped some idiot overtaking me on double white when they failed to see a hidden dip and failed to see the car coming the other way before the dip.
There was no where for me to go.

How did you stop them, out of interest? I feel like I'm missing a road tactic that could come in useful.

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IanMSpencer replied to ShutTheFrontDawes | 1 year ago
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Reminds me of a time when I clocked a soft top BMW about to overtake me on a blind bend where I could see an oncoming car so I stuck my arm out. His response was to be incensed at a mere cyclist telling a driver to not overtake so he ploughed on leaning on the horn - causing the oncoming car onto the verge with a rather shocked driver to boot.

I'd like to think I saw an embarrassed glance in his mirror.

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eburtthebike replied to IanMSpencer | 1 year ago
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IanMSpencer wrote:

Reminds me of a time when I clocked a soft top BMW about to overtake me on a blind bend where I could see an oncoming car so I stuck my arm out. His response was to be incensed at a mere cyclist telling a driver to not overtake so he ploughed on leaning on the horn - causing the oncoming car onto the verge with a rather shocked driver to boot. I'd like to think I saw an embarrassed glance in his mirror.

Had something similar once, but the vehicle behind was a white van, and the driver ignored my hand, and collided with the car approaching around the corner.  Let's face it, what do cyclists know about driving?

A lot more than most drivers.

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Hirsute replied to eburtthebike | 1 year ago
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Lucky you didn't get caught up in it - that was my concern earlier. Luckily my 'NO' arm signal was followed.

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OnYerBike | 1 year ago
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On the Swiss smooth road: I'm sure the road is pretty smooth, although it appears especially smooth not because of any post-production denoising/filters but simply because of motion blur. The camera was tracking the (fast moving) cyclists hence they appear sharp, whilst the stationary road (and hedge etc.) are correspondingly blurred. 

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SimoninSpalding | 1 year ago
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So on the Strava heatmap giving away locations, I have looked at my road, which is a dead end and to my knowledge has 2 regular Strava cyclists on it. Most of the road shows no activity, but the first portion (roughly to my house) has a faint blue trace presumably because it's the bit of road we both use.

I looked at another cul de sac in the village, and again there is a faint trace which appears to stop outside our friends' house who tend to cycle as a couple, so again 2 accounts.

 Whether anyone would be applying the AI to spot these patterns I wouldn't like to say and I doubt this is a huge problem for most people but those in remote areas, cul de sacs etc. need to be aware.

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Matthew Acton-Varian replied to SimoninSpalding | 1 year ago
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On this front, I am lucky to live and work on major roads which both regularly see cycling activity. But as a precaution I always have used the hide start/finish feature and set hide start/end points for both locations at at least 400yds from the moment I started using Strava. Also, my profile is private so any media can only be viewed by those I have approved to follow me. It makes good practice to check your privacy settings.

 

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SimoninSpalding replied to Matthew Acton-Varian | 1 year ago
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The point is that hiding your start/ finish point on your individual activities (I have this set too)does not stop them using your full ride data in the heatmap, the argument being that because it is aggregated there is no privacy issue, but if 2 athletes is enough for them to show the trace it does cause a problem.

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to SimoninSpalding | 1 year ago
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Do you cycle to your friends house to meet up? Do they cycle to yours? That could explain tracks showing even though privacy is set on. Also the tracks ending at yours could be tracks from your other fellow who has privacy on AND the privacy window ends at yours.

I honestly suspect it isn't the amount of people but the amount of activities that set it off. When the military bases were being picked up, I doubt it was more then one or two doing the runs and recording. But they were doing it regularly. 

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Matthew Acton-Varian | 1 year ago
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Let them broadcast the team radio!

It will give us a great insight, and it will add information and entertainment during the dull moments when not much is actually happening! Away from the climbs, sprints and attacks, when you have a lull in proceedings hearing the radio would keep more casual viewers entertained.

It works in F1. Hearing strategy calls when the cars are in procession mid race as the pit stop window closes in makes it more bearable at that time.

Using football talk is an apples/oranges comparison. Listening to tactical talk adds very little to the viewing experience, as tactics are rarely tweaked or revised mid-game in response to an unpredicted incident. In racing you are constantly reacting to everything around you and changing accordingly.

Although the ref mics should be broadcast  in football just like in rugby. But that's a different debate.

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Oldfatgit replied to Matthew Acton-Varian | 1 year ago
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They could put a 5 or 10 second delay on it ... how would we ever know?

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Matthew Acton-Varian replied to Oldfatgit | 1 year ago
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The F1 radio is delayed just to ensure it is censored so it is suitable for younger viewers. I don't see how that would be a problem.

 

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Rendel Harris replied to Matthew Acton-Varian | 1 year ago
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I can understand the reluctance to allow team radio from the strategic point of view, if the DS says to their rider follow on for the next 5 km then there's a small climb, attack there, obviously they don't want their opponents to hear their plaqns. Equally, going in the other direction, riders are going to be inhibited from letting the team know if they feel there's something wrong with the bike or that they are having a bad day in case that information gets transmitted to other riders who can then attack. I would love to hear it though, maybe it could just be used on replays, so once the riders are over a climb, for example, we could have a replay of the instructions they got at the foot of it?

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Matthew Acton-Varian replied to Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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Or the teams will start using code words for certain tactics? But generally speaking, a rider will already have made a move by the time a message is broadcast anyway.

I would love a "Multi-2-1" or a "Vallteri, this is James" moment 

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bikes | 1 year ago
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How far will a council pursue the removal of a shed? Developers get away with adding an extra few metres of height on their buildings, so presumably you can get away with a tasteful bike shed?

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ShutTheFrontDawes replied to bikes | 1 year ago
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bikes wrote:

How far will a council pursue the removal of a shed? Developers get away with adding an extra few metres of height on their buildings, so presumably you can get away with a tasteful bike shed?

Great lengths.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9567339/amp/Council-orders-fami...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2014/aug/01/brighton-g...

Apologies in advance for linking to the heil.

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ratherbeintobago replied to ShutTheFrontDawes | 1 year ago
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So, what we need is a shed that looks like a knackered 20yo Transit?

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chrisonabike | 1 year ago
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Careful what you wish for - they might allow bike parking but only if it's in keeping with the Victorian area...

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SimoninSpalding replied to chrisonabike | 1 year ago
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Only if the drivists go first

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Car Delenda Est replied to chrisonabike | 1 year ago
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Would love to see a penny farthing shaped Sheffield stand

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chrisonabike replied to Car Delenda Est | 1 year ago
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As you wish.  (Go visit in real life).

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eburtthebike replied to chrisonabike | 1 year ago
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Is that the famous Jacob Rees-Mogg bicycle collection?

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levestane replied to chrisonabike | 1 year ago
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I presume all these houses have outside 'bathrooms', no electricity, no insulation etc., etc. 

Why am I remembering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ

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sheridan replied to levestane | 1 year ago
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levestane wrote:

I presume all these houses have outside 'bathrooms', no electricity, no insulation etc., etc. 

Why am I remembering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ

I was expecting "Four Yorkshiremen" and got "What have the Romans ever done for us?" - close...

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Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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As of last year Islington had 7000 people on the waiting list for a space in a bike hangar, so the claim that it's empty seems fairly questionable and why would anybody pay £107 per year and then not use it? Perhaps the drivers in the street never see anyone use it because they have to leave for work an hour before the cyclists do and come back an hour after they get home.

In terms of the "small picturesque street" you could probably apply that to mine, where the vast majority of the houses were built between 1870 and 1900: the bike hangars blend in really well with the trees and other greenery both on the streets and in people's front gardens and they also, being low, open up sightlines and views that were not available when the space was filled by motor vehicles. 

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